School children arriving late on Monday due to Footie

[Muncher75]

This was doing the rounds on my social media today, I am a teacher, so Is it just me or is this a bad idea? Children have hardly been in school this year anyway. More importantly, I feel that it’s teaching our children the wrong life lesson. Surely, if you choose to stay up late then suck it up on Monday! You can’t be swanning in late on a Monday to work after a weekend of partying.... interested to know if it’s just me. For the record, I enjoy watching football!

Blimey, you lot who think this is a bad idea are going to be very shocked when you find out what they get up to for the rest of the last week of summer term!

Someone said I must have a rigid view of the world, I really must!

What about the kids that don't like or care about football?

It's stupid on so many levels.

@ThursdayWeld it's the principle of it!!

@doesparentingsuck

Someone said I must have a rigid view of the world, I really must!

What about the kids that don't like or care about football?

It's stupid on so many levels.

They go to school as normal or have a sleep in.

And what did you mean the principle of it?

[quote doesparentingsuck]@ThursdayWeld it's the principle of it!! [/quote]
I don't have a problem with the principle. Should we ban bank holidays as well, as they give a bad message?

@doesparentingsuck

Someone said I must have a rigid view of the world, I really must!

What about the kids that don't like or care about football?

It's stupid on so many levels.

They also can come in at 10.30 if the parents are willing and able to facilitate it. That certainly isn't a reason not to do it. Honestly, talk about scraping the barrel.

@ThursdayWeld

Blimey, you lot who think this is a bad idea are going to be very shocked when you find out what they get up to for the rest of the last week of summer term!

I’m running the risk of outing myself here but oh well.

We have two weeks of term left. My school has two themed weeks. Science week and a move up week. Science week focuses on lots of science investigations and learning around a specific topic. During move up week, the children are in their new classroom with their new teacher learning all about their class country (each class named after a different country) and getting to know each other. The focus is on geography and learning about other cultures. Both lovely weeks for the children with lots of learning happening. They are not the doss weeks non-teachers assume everyone has.

The curriculum is so ridiculously full that the last weeks of terms are often used to cram in as much non-core teaching as possible.

@BoredZelda

If the school is allowing it, it's no different to an adult being given permission to start work late the day after an event.

Maybe this generation of kids will remember this and be better employers in the future. They’ll realise sometimes a couple of hours off for this sort of thing is the right thing to do.

Sure that will help our comparatively poor productivity levels

@ButteringMyArse

Daisy means women's Euros.

England are hosting the women's again next year. I've signed up for advance notification when tickets are available, can't wait!

I wish they had just said. I had no idea. I don't mind being wrong but just being told I am wrong with no explanation doesn't really help 'right' things. Thank you. I had no idea about the women's football, I live in Scotland but I still feel this is something England should have been supporting and celebrating loudly

OP I agree with you however in our case what I take exception to more is the final 2 weeks of this school term being deemed sports weeks...on the point of missing vital education this too smacks of non vital to me..mind you I was brought up thinking the 3 Rs were the only thing that mattered,

My mistake @AnonymousArmadillo! I thought it was the last week.

But I also take your other point.

Still, does two hours make so much difference, when loads of kids aren't even in school because they're isolating?

I'm a bit surprised about the football causing a late night. In the UK it starts at 8pm so should be all over by 10pm, what's late about that?

Where I am it starts at 11pm so finishes at about 1am, or even 2am if it runs to penalties. That would justify a concession on late starting.

I can understand parents sending their kids in late by choice and the school choosing not to say anything but to announce it as an authorised late seems like a license for parents to take the piss. We have already had parents going to theme parks while in isolation this term.

My kids will go in at the normal time but then they are dreadful at going to bed anyway.

@ThursdayWeld

My mistake *@AnonymousArmadillo*! I thought it was the last week.

But I also take your other point.

Still, does two hours make so much difference, when loads of kids aren't even in school because they're isolating?

In some counties it might well be the last week. My sister finished this week and I’m very jealous!

I’m on the fence about the 2 hour late start. I agree it won’t make a huge difference in their learning overall but I also agree that it’s frustrating that this is encouraged when other time off is most definitely not.

@filka

I'm a bit surprised about the football causing a late night. In the UK it starts at 8pm so should be all over by 10pm, what's late about that?

Where I am it starts at 11pm so finishes at about 1am, or even 2am if it runs to penalties. That would justify a concession on late starting.

10pm is three hours after my DD’s bedtime. She’s 7 and doesn’t care about football but lots of the children in her class absolutely do care so will be tired with a late bedtime. There’s no way I could get her to nap earlier in the day either.

@filka

I'm a bit surprised about the football causing a late night. In the UK it starts at 8pm so should be all over by 10pm, what's late about that?

Where I am it starts at 11pm so finishes at about 1am, or even 2am if it runs to penalties. That would justify a concession on late starting.

Potentially it could be later. If it goes to extra time and penalties.

And with all the excitement, kids who have watched it aren't all going to fall asleep within minutes of it finishing.

Oh for gods sake 🙄

[quote Muncher75]@ButteringMyArse unfortunately not! I’ll let you know how we fair![/quote]
‘Fare’

5/10. See me.

I gathered that previous England and other home nations football games were also played in the evening and on a school night so did people miss the next morning or day’s school too?

The schools allowing or preemptively promoting this special entitlement exceptionalism is essentially setting a precedent for families to not take schooling seriously despite a pandemic missing much education already. Perhaps the staff will be missing in action too as Monday will be a national record sick day as everyone claims to be pinged by that hopeless App that does everything but being fit for purpose too. As it’s could be a potential victory or otherwise what happens if England lose? Will it be traumatic? Or if England wins does it mean a public national holiday day off? It could be coming Rome as much as coming home but it looks likely a new variant Covid variant is more likely coming home as yes whatever the result - Covid will be coming home! Come on England!

@Lefthousewithpooinhair

Well maybe not everyone, but I guarantee whatever the result, it will be front page of every newspaper on Monday morning. IMO after such a difficult year, an event like this bringing the country together is unbelievably well timed and great for everyone!

Incredibly well timed? Seriously?

Yes, it's good for us to have something positive after a difficult year. However, Covid isn't over and my social media and the press are full of pictures of supporters in the ground and in pubs. Only yesterday it was reported that cases have increased and are at their highest since February.

Incredibly well timed would be once everyone has had their jabs and this pandemic is under control!

@ThursdayWeld

Blimey, you lot who think this is a bad idea are going to be very shocked when you find out what they get up to for the rest of the last week of summer term!

Think it's more the hypocrisy of it. It's OK to be late if we say so.

This is ridiculous. It’s an hour of two of school. How much do you think your kids learn in that time? It’s really not going to make much of an impact.

I wouldn't mind, except that parents are fined for taking their kids out of school for other reasons so why is football the exception.

If I told the school I was sending my child in 2 hours later because we were going to see a late night classical music concert, or going to the cinema, or a wedding, would they be accepting?

Yes this is not about half a morning off school but should now set a precedent for all kinds of excuses and in equality fairness no fines should be imposed unless it is officially school supported lateness or skipping school. The same slipping off principle should be fairly dished out. Schooling is evidently not that important despite missing many pandemic learning hours.

@ChocOrange1

I wouldn't mind, except that parents are fined for taking their kids out of school for other reasons so why is football the exception.

If I told the school I was sending my child in 2 hours later because we were going to see a late night classical music concert, or going to the cinema, or a wedding, would they be accepting?

As a one off I can't see the issue. It happens more often that you think, especially for holidays/weekends away.Either leaving early, or coming in late/not at all.