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Or is Priti a f***ing hypocrite?!

164 replies

AmIPeriOrAreYouJustAnnoying · 09/07/2021 15:36

https://twitter.com/pritipatel/status/1412892001767460873?s=21

OP posts:
PhilSwagielka · 10/07/2021 15:59

@Whoarethewho

Really glad to see when it comes to the polls these peak woke mumsnetters are in a tiny minority. Keep wringing your hands and wiping away you tear smudged makeup. I'm finally glad we have a home secretary prepared to actually enforce immigration controls good on her and I will support even tougher measures.
And if people like you had her way, half the England team would be deported.
PhilSwagielka · 10/07/2021 16:00

@Justanotherlurker

A bit like our nasty, racist, lying Tory government then

Yeah the ECHR have found institutional racism inherint in the party, oh sorry it is it was labour (cringe)

Your OP is dripping in a soft bigotry of low expectations, you struggling to disingage with her wanting the england football team to do well and a non existent hatred you have for a political party is tied into that, no bad optics just bad tactics, the 'RG degree' you 'obviously' hold hasn't paid off well looking at your posts.

Did you get too many downvotes on twitter that you had to bring this over to this forum?

Please stop pretending you care about Jews. You don't. You're just using us as a stick to beat people with.
Clavinova · 10/07/2021 16:07

Remember what Johnson said about Hillsborough and the city of Liverpool in general.

Full Fact -
Did Boris Johnson write this quote about Liverpudlians and Hillsborough?

Our verdict -
Mr Johnson was editor of that publication, but a different journalist has claimed responsibility for writing it.

fullfact.org/online/boris-johnson-liverpool-hillsborough/

SecretSpAD · 10/07/2021 16:07

EVERYONE I know hates Priti

Yep even tories. Fucking hypocrite is only the start of what is wrong with that woman.

SecretSpAD · 10/07/2021 16:10

I think there are equally hateful powerful men but we’re drawn, as women, to be horrified by bad women

Nope. I'm horrified by the entire government. This just happens to be a thread about priti patel - whose family, I believe, had to escape Uganda in the 70's and found a home in the UK.....something she is now denying refugees today.

Clavinova · 10/07/2021 16:13

How anyone can defend a politician who believes in the death penalty is beyond me.

September 2016 -

Priti Patel, the international development secretary, revealed yesterday that she had renounced her support for the death penalty.

In 2011 Ms Patel told Question Time that she supported the reintroduction of capital punishment to serve as a deterrent to serious criminals.

Asked by the international development select committee whether she still supported it, she said: “The answer is no. I have made this clear in my other roles in government. Let me again state for the record what my view is, which is in answer to your question, no.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/patel-backtracks-on-support-for-the-death-penalty-32hw2n76r

Staffy1 · 10/07/2021 16:31

What’s wrong with her post and why does that make her a hypocrite?

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 10/07/2021 16:36

Great. The Klaxon has sounded and our very own cut and paste Queen Clavinova has arrived.

Anyway, this isn’t about being left or right wing (most people aren’t solely one or the other anyway) it’s about being a decent human being. Priti isn’t. She has zero integrity. You cannot publicly attempt to demotivate the team one week then wear an England top your assistant just took out of the packet with the creases still in and set up a photo shoot to show you’re now a mega fan. It doesn’t wash.

Blossomtoes · 10/07/2021 16:36

Yes, I know that’s what she says @Clavinova. She didn’t have much choice after Ian Hislop ripped her a new one followed by rapturous applause. She’ll say whatever she thinks is expedient. Fact is she did believe it and I’m priti sure she still does.

Clavinova · 10/07/2021 16:47

You cannot publicly attempt to demotivate the team one week then wear an England top your assistant just took out of the packet with the creases still in

Sounds familiar -

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/03/labour-defends-new-strategy-to-focus-on-patriotism-and-union-flag

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 10/07/2021 17:01

@Clavinova ‘the cut and paste Queen’. Yes I agree Labours desperate attempts at attracting what focus groups have told them ‘Red Wall’ types like is inauthentic.

I’m not a Labour member or left wing though (if I posted what I thought on that thread about the two child limit, I’d probably be labelled an evil right winger) and don’t understand why this whataboutery was posted? This thread is about Gareth Southgate’s biggest new fan, Priti Patel isn’t it?

Clavinova · 10/07/2021 17:16

don’t understand why this whataboutery was posted?
This thread is about Gareth Southgate’s biggest new fan, Priti Patel isn’t it?

I can quite clearly see Sunak, Zahawi, Javid, Diane Abbott, Boris Johnson, Mumsnet Tories, Corbyn, Momentum, USA, Netherlands, Japan, Belgium, Israel, Liverpool all mentioned above - half of this thread is 'whataboutery' in that case.

thecatsatonthewall · 10/07/2021 17:28

@Clavinova People don't suddenly change core beliefs like the death penalty, anymore than they suddenly change from being in Momentum to joining the tory party.

She said what was required of her to further her political career.

Bit like Boris and his conversion to leaving the EU.

TBH if you want to be be successful in politics be a tory, members of other parties are far more likely to be genuine as they have chosen a far harder path to political power.

Zotter · 10/07/2021 20:53

Yeah the ECHR have found institutional racism inherint in the party, oh sorry it is it was labour (cringe)

The ECHR report did not say the Labour Party was institutionally racist so cringing for you.

Justanotherlurker · 10/07/2021 22:16

The ECHR report did not say the Labour Party was institutionally racist so cringing for you.

Feel free to argue a technicality whilst ignoring the wider issue that it is'nt the Tories being repremanded by the ECHR for open racism.

Especially when the person I was replying to was trying to insinuate that the Tories was an openly openly racist party, nuance and reading the thread might help.

longwayoff · 10/07/2021 22:40

Openly racist if convenient, covertly racist when not.

Justanotherlurker · 10/07/2021 22:47

Openly racist if convenient, covertly racist when not.

I agree, it's no bad tactics just bad targets as the new found narrative, I suspect on MN though it will be memory holed into a becoming a right wing narrative.

Problem is the internet remembers

Blossomtoes · 10/07/2021 22:50

it's no bad tactics just bad targets as the new found narrative

Maybe I’m spectacularly thick tonight but I’ve read that three times and it still makes no sense. Could someone who understands it translate, please?

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 10/07/2021 23:15

I’m with you Blossomtoes. Could make neither head nor tale of that sentence. Someone’s possibly started on the pre-match bevvies a bit early?

Blossomtoes · 10/07/2021 23:36

Glad it’s not just me - I thought dementia had come calling.

chaosrabbitland · 10/07/2021 23:41

@Blossomtoes

We need immigrants to do the jobs the British won’t or can’t do. We need their youth. We need their skills

Too damned right we do. The UK birthrate is falling every year and the group in which it’s falling fastest is white British. We need skilled immigrants and we need their children.

yes as in skilled , but im wondering how many of these ecomomic migrants crossing over by the boatload to dover are actually skilled or just want to settle in britain because its much more of a soft touch than france or any of the other countries they have passed through that dont put them up in hotels with money each month . i personally wouldnt care if they were skilled or doing a job the english cant or wont do , but most of them just drag put there claims for months and years and spend that time doing black market jobs or existing on benefits , as well as being housed in an already tight social housing shortage if they have kids , im struggling to see how that helps the uk

if priti is discouraging this kind of immigrant , but wanted skilled than im ok with that , but so far shes proving useless at stopping any of them coming in

Nat6999 · 11/07/2021 03:41

Vile woman who shouldn't still be in a job. I think Boris handed out the England shirts so everyone thinks the Tories are down with the kids. The Euros have been a good smokescreen to cover up the fallout of Matt Hancock & the fact that Covid cases are increasing, once the final is over, whether we win or lose there is nothing for them to hide behind, I'm fully expecting them to blame anyone who went to the pub or to Wembley for cases increasing & further restrictions.

Muminabun · 11/07/2021 06:39

I like, she is doing what she has been tasked to do. We need a strong HS. i feel uncomfortable reading the comments of sheer hate being directed at this woman for simply celebrating the England win.

LemonRoses · 11/07/2021 09:36

@Muminabun

I like, she is doing what she has been tasked to do. We need a strong HS. i feel uncomfortable reading the comments of sheer hate being directed at this woman for simply celebrating the England win.
Who told her to bully such that it took £370,000 to hide it? Who suggested she tries to set policies that breach international maritime laws? What is strong about her?
Clavinova · 11/07/2021 12:52

I think Boris handed out the England shirts so everyone thinks the Tories are down with the kids.

Priti Patel's son is aged about 12 or 13 - she is 'down with the kids.' More likely she bought her son an England shirt and borrowed it for the photo.

thecatsatonthewall
@ Clavinova People don't suddenly change core beliefs like the death penalty, anymore than they suddenly change from being in Momentum to joining the tory party.

That statement doesn't bode well for challenging anti-semitism in the Labour Party.

Personally I think attitudes to capital punishment can easily be swayed by topical events such as major terrorist attacks and child murders - with miscarriages of justice swaying public opinion the other way. Priti Patel's original comments were made in 2011 so not necessarily a 'sudden change' in belief for her - although, as International Development Secretary, suddenly being presented with government briefs and committees detailing the realities of capital punishment in other countries could well be responsible for her change of opinion.

TBH if you want to be be successful in politics be a tory, members of other parties are far more likely to be genuine as they have chosen a far harder path to political power.

I think most people were confused by Labour's stance on Brexit - even now - nothing 'genuine' about it.