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There should be no England fans at final IMO

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LaserPointer · 08/07/2021 20:59

I cannot believe there is not more disgust at the actions of one (or more) English fan(s).

Aside from trying to cheat way to an England victory by distracting the goalkeeper during a penalty, lasers are phenomenally dangerous to eyes. The goalkeeper could have retinal damage.

I think a “lesser” nation would have been kicked out, but England won’t. But in my view the fans should be banned - there has to be consequences for criminal actions. Otherwise it will happen again.

Suspect I’ll be in the minority but it’s frankly embarrassing we have fans who do this.

OP posts:
ExtraOnions · 08/07/2021 22:05

Having gone to football most of my adult life … some referee decision go your way, and some don’t. Sterling didn’t award himself a penalty, a professional referee did - and the VAR referees did not contradict him.

All football players play to get free kicks .. including the Danish Team, Italian, Spanish and all others. It’s part of the game.

As for fans booing anthems - it’s not just the English that do it. If you want animosity between fans, watch some Italian derby matches.

Fireworks? Where was the fuss when the Dutch fans were letting off smoke bombs ?

Laser pen was wrong, the person needs banning.

Plenty of vile stuff on Twitter last night from the Danish fans

The comments about the young German girl were despicable and should be dealt with.

ALL England fans like that? Was Prince William behaving like that ? David Beckham ? Alex Scott ? Nah

I know a number of people who went to Wembley, and had a great time.

You want to get annoyed, get annoyed about the racist and homophobic abuse some teams fans are peddling.

User135644 · 08/07/2021 22:06

@littledrummergirl

Personally I think they should be disqualified, as it is in the future I think it will be remembered in the same way as hand of God. It was disgraceful and has taken the shine off a very good win.
UEFA won't make that call because the final is in England.

They've disgraced themselves to the rest of Europe last night.

BillyWhozz · 08/07/2021 22:06

@ConstantConstance

I'm English and love football but the game is too yobbish now, the abuse the german youngster got - in the pub i was in, half the pub errupted in laughter at her tears. Pictures of her be cradled by Saville on SM.

Yes most countries boo opposing fans anthems, does that make it right?
Imagine if at Wimbledon, fans booed the winning players anthem? or at the Olympics?

So ban fans from the final, make an example and stop matches where racial abuse takes place, the game needs cleaning up.

Too yobbish now? Hope you weren't on the terraces in the 80's.

The social media point is possibly valid but then it applies to all social media IMO not just football. Give someone anonymity and they will post rubbish/hurtful things. If it's not a girl in the crowd as a target it'll be someone on Love Island or a politician or a plus sized model.

Goldenbear · 08/07/2021 22:06

I'm not a massive football fan but I do have experiences from my childhood and certainly don't think you can say they lacked talent - in what way?

SlipperyDippery · 08/07/2021 22:06

@toocold54

Honestly I am shocked that they haven’t removed the last goal and put the score to 1-1 or said to have a re-match. The laser was a strong laser that must have been off putting and I feel like it’s bittersweet because would we actually have won the game if that didn’t happen!? I feel like this will go down in history as the time England cheated to win and it’s such a shame as they have played amazingly!
Tell me you rarely watch football without saying you rarely watch football.
Sloaneslone · 08/07/2021 22:06

@toocold54

Honestly I am shocked that they haven’t removed the last goal and put the score to 1-1 or said to have a re-match. The laser was a strong laser that must have been off putting and I feel like it’s bittersweet because would we actually have won the game if that didn’t happen!? I feel like this will go down in history as the time England cheated to win and it’s such a shame as they have played amazingly!
But they would also need to remove the Denmark go as well.
forinborin · 08/07/2021 22:07

So there's similar incidents but it's a systemic English issue based on one incident of which has happened multiple times with different countries and in different sports?
There has been repeated booing of national anthems, quite disgusting cyber- bullying of a young child by adult men, and an attempt to cause bodily harm to another team's critical player. No, this is not "one" incident. But please, do proceed with your alphabet soup experiment.

toocold54 · 08/07/2021 22:08

From what I saw the green laser light randomly moved around the chest of the goalkeeper, it barely went near his eyes, which is very fortunate.

There’s lots of photos of it on his face. Luckily the goalie was moving so it was hard to point it in one spot I’m guessing.

remy3 · 08/07/2021 22:08

People please don’t rise to this.

The OP is clearly speaking from la la land. Where everybody is perfect.

Ooh noo - no racist football fans in other counties are there? Confused No thugs whatsoever anywhere. None of them ever drink or shout abuse or boo other teams / anthems / goals. No other fan EVER has posted anything offensive on social media. Noooo! Only England in this tournament. Yes, all other men are the angels of football.

Let’s ban football altogether shall we?

BillyWhozz · 08/07/2021 22:08

@toocold54

Honestly I am shocked that they haven’t removed the last goal and put the score to 1-1 or said to have a re-match. The laser was a strong laser that must have been off putting and I feel like it’s bittersweet because would we actually have won the game if that didn’t happen!? I feel like this will go down in history as the time England cheated to win and it’s such a shame as they have played amazingly!
He. Saved. The. Penalty.

And yes we would have. They took their best players off too early and were dead on their feet from 70 minutes.

LucilleBluth · 08/07/2021 22:08

@ConstantConstance

I'm English and love football but the game is too yobbish now, the abuse the german youngster got - in the pub i was in, half the pub errupted in laughter at her tears. Pictures of her be cradled by Saville on SM.

Yes most countries boo opposing fans anthems, does that make it right?
Imagine if at Wimbledon, fans booed the winning players anthem? or at the Olympics?

So ban fans from the final, make an example and stop matches where racial abuse takes place, the game needs cleaning up.

Too yobbish now….NOW. Oh my, how old are you 🤣🤣🤣
CauliflowerCheese30 · 08/07/2021 22:08

@ExtraOnions

Having gone to football most of my adult life … some referee decision go your way, and some don’t. Sterling didn’t award himself a penalty, a professional referee did - and the VAR referees did not contradict him.

All football players play to get free kicks .. including the Danish Team, Italian, Spanish and all others. It’s part of the game.

As for fans booing anthems - it’s not just the English that do it. If you want animosity between fans, watch some Italian derby matches.

Fireworks? Where was the fuss when the Dutch fans were letting off smoke bombs ?

Laser pen was wrong, the person needs banning.

Plenty of vile stuff on Twitter last night from the Danish fans

The comments about the young German girl were despicable and should be dealt with.

ALL England fans like that? Was Prince William behaving like that ? David Beckham ? Alex Scott ? Nah

I know a number of people who went to Wembley, and had a great time.

You want to get annoyed, get annoyed about the racist and homophobic abuse some teams fans are peddling.

100% this
DarkDarkNight · 08/07/2021 22:09

Could have been a supporter of another national side (can't imagine who that could be) stirring up trouble on purpose to make the England fans look bad.

When you hear hooves think horse not zebra. Unfortunately there are enough hooligans amongst England supporters we don’t need anybody to make us look bad.

It’s a shame we can’t just enjoy this moment without worrying about what the hooligans are going to do.

toocold54 · 08/07/2021 22:09

But they would also need to remove the Denmark go as well.

I didn’t realise a laser was shone on our goalies face too!!

Justanotherlurker · 08/07/2021 22:09

No the other teams fans wouldn't be banned for being 'lesser', maybe we should ban all Italian fans who have repeated history of openly shouting racist abuse, throwing bananas onto the pitch at black players.

As for cheating, it's almost like people are new to the game and think it's somehow an english trait or that every tournament hasn't been won on tight decisions that have left a bitter taste in the mouths of those that lost, Italy are not adverse to diving and playing the 'system' and have been known for it for years and if you had actually watched the tournament would have seen it happen in a few of there games in the past few weeks.

It's fun to see the 'critical thinkers' who are so concerned with england just repeat ad nauseam the hot takes from twitter and wrapping them up as their own when it is obvious they haven't watched any games and just want to find a way to display the ABE rethoric, you can probably gain much glee on monday in england losing and be on the side where there is more out and out open racism than any booing of a national anthem (ignoring Italy booing Spains the other night, or even Denmark booing finlands) is considered a uniquely british trait.

The pain and contorsions it has caused among some is astonishing to see

MrsGRamsay · 08/07/2021 22:10

I give up with you lot: to paraphrase - “I’m sure the laser pen was green so not a blinding / anti pilot one”??

See how that goes when Police home onto the next tosser trying to blind a pilot into Heathrow.

To you lot lot that don’t understand - “Ingerrunnd” fans are despised in Europe; and certain clubs will never be forgiven.

CauliflowerCheese30 · 08/07/2021 22:10

www.itv.com/news/2021-07-08/mason-mount-makes-young-england-fans-night-as-he-gives-her-his-shirt-after-euro-2020-triumph

To those saying ban the supporters, why should that happen when fans like this girl get this

remy3 · 08/07/2021 22:11

And the goalie caught the goal. He was not blinded.

The fact is, England were the better team. I don’t follow football whatsoever. Nor am I English. But that is the fact. They had about 80% of the ball possession. Far more shots at the goal. It could easily have been 4:1 to England.

ConstantConstance · 08/07/2021 22:11

Too yobbish now? Hope you weren't on the terraces in the 80's

The social media point is possibly valid but then it applies to all social media IMO not just football. Give someone anonymity and they will post rubbish/hurtful things. If it's not a girl in the crowd as a target it'll be someone on Love Island or a politician or a plus sized model

No i wasn't, my dad was and got beaten up very badly, he never worked again.
But he always loved his football and passed that onto me, stamp down on this unruly behavior and we can prevent a return to the 70s and 80s.
Ignore it and we will :(

Itsprobablynotcominghome · 08/07/2021 22:11

Nah. Need as many to get their Delta Zeneca vaccine as possible.

SlipperyDippery · 08/07/2021 22:12

@MrsGRamsay

I give up with you lot: to paraphrase - “I’m sure the laser pen was green so not a blinding / anti pilot one”??

See how that goes when Police home onto the next tosser trying to blind a pilot into Heathrow.

To you lot lot that don’t understand - “Ingerrunnd” fans are despised in Europe; and certain clubs will never be forgiven.

Still waiting to hear what Heysel has to do with this thread.
User135644 · 08/07/2021 22:12

@SimonedeBeauvoirscat

Cheating. Cheats. Shameful. I’m English. I don’t think England should benefit from this. The England I’m from doesn’t believe in cheating.
Times have changed. Sadly. It's a new dawn.
WithANameLikeDaniCalifornia · 08/07/2021 22:13

You sound Scottish, op.

username18702 · 08/07/2021 22:14

@Pixxie7

Anyone found guilty of these actions should at least be banned, however from what I have seen a vast majority of English fans have behaved responsibly, so why should they be punished because of a few.
Because they won and there are a lot of very sore losers out there who aren't happy about it.

Suggesting the English are the only fans to boo a national anthem shows them up for the clowns they are.

SlipperyDippery · 08/07/2021 22:15

@DarkDarkNight

Could have been a supporter of another national side (can't imagine who that could be) stirring up trouble on purpose to make the England fans look bad.

When you hear hooves think horse not zebra. Unfortunately there are enough hooligans amongst England supporters we don’t need anybody to make us look bad.

It’s a shame we can’t just enjoy this moment without worrying about what the hooligans are going to do.

I have absolutely no doubt it was an England fan, and that person is a cunt who should be banned for life.

However if you start disqualifying teams because of a laser being shone in the other team’s keeper’s face, it won’t be long before people are shining lasers in their own players’ faces to try to get the other team kicked out.

It’s why they now don’t have to stop the game when there are 2 balls on the field, to stop people throwing balls on and having play stopped when the opposition are on a promising attack.