To wish England hadn't won (almost)

[littlegreybird]

I'm not a football fan but someone who tends to get swept along during big tournaments and a few years ago would have been thrilled by last night's result.

This year I hate it. I think the team and manager seem great, but the booing during the other teams' national anthems is sickening and makes me utterly ashamed. Then you just know it'll be jumped on by Johnson (already has) and the victory, or even getting this far, will become part of his populism. Then there's all the covid cases that will be spread due to all the mixing in pubs etc, more than would have been the case anyway.

I just feel nothing for this country anymore after the events of the last few years. Latest bit of shit news is that my daily commute will now be shared by exhausted lorry drivers who won't have had breaks thanks to Brexit, so that's a cheery thought.

When is anything good going to happen that isn't sullied by this utterly shit governement?

@LemonRoses They did… the military identified the sites for every vaccination site, coordinated distribution and built the supply chain.

it wasn't ALL them

Nothing to do with Brexit and nothing much to do with our government- although they claim the applause.

Why shouldn't the government claim the applause when they received the flack beforehand?

(Now I'm posting something political)

14 March 2020
Brexit means coronavirus vaccine will be slower to reach the UK

• Martin McKee Independent Sage

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-vaccine-delays-brexit-ema-expensive

3 July 2020
Ed Davey MP - Leader Liberal Democrats Twitter

The PM must confirm that the UK will take part in the EU vaccine plan. This is no time for silly Brexit games.

10 July 2020
Layla Moran MP - Liberal Democrats Twitter

Walking away from the EU vaccines scheme is putting ideology ahead of public health. You would think that during a pandemic ministers would put political dogma aside. But it seems for this government it’s Brexit over vaccines.

1 Feb 2021
A British opposition frontbencher [apologised] for suggesting the country should have signed up to the EU’s vaccination scheme.

Catherine West, the Labour Party’s shadow Europe minister, said a 2020 message condemning the U.K.’s decision to opt out of the bloc-wide program to buy and distribute vaccines had now “proven to be wrong.”

West initially responded to a report on Britain’s move last year by tweeting: “Dumber and dumber.”

www.politico.eu/article/labour-mp-apologizes-for-jibe-at-uks-opt-out-of-eu-vaccine-scheme/

23 June 2021
The Good Law Project has dropped its legal challenge to the government’s recruitment of Kate Bingham as chair of the vaccines taskforce...
Jolyon Maugham, director of the GLP, said the process for appointing Bingham, while it did not follow an open advertising process, had been better than expected.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/23/legal-action-over-kate-bingham-role-in-uk-covid-vaccine-taskforce-dropped

[quote 21Bee]@LemonRoses They did… the military identified the sites for every vaccination site, coordinated distribution and built the supply chain.[/quote]
There was military support for the NHS leaders, it’s true. They certainly didn’t lead on all sites. They certainly didn’t start the roll out. The trust’s were the first places to begin administering vaccines, with GPs close behind.

I say that as someone with a military officer son and army nursing officer future daughter in law.

@OutComeTheWolves kyle Walker also cheated on his partner of 12 years and got the other woman pregnant behind her back and has since denied the child and doesn’t see him ...

'The trust’s were the first places to begin administering vaccines, with GPs close behind.'

Are these Trusts not in fact led by the DHSC and therefore the vaccine programme was gov led or is the nhs some independent business completely unrelated to the department of health?!

It's funny when it's going right it's nothing to do with gov, when it's going wrong it's of course all their fault 🙄.

@JaniieJones

'The trust’s were the first places to begin administering vaccines, with GPs close behind.'

Are these Trusts not in fact led by the DHSC and therefore the vaccine programme was gov led or is the nhs some independent business completely unrelated to the department of health?!

It's funny when it's going right it's nothing to do with gov, when it's going wrong it's of course all their fault 🙄.

The governance is complicated but no, trusts are not led by DHSC. They have their own boards. Foundation trusts are answerable to their governors. There isn’t really ‘one NHS’. It’s not a single entity. The roll out was initially a collaborative effort between ICS leads, trust leads and NHSE/I.

Very little direction came from central government except the vanity projects that threw money at Nightingales etc without due consultation.

'The governance is complicated but no, trusts are not led by DHSC. They have their own boards. Foundation trusts are answerable to their governors.'

Oh stop being so utterly patronising.

The dhsc and the nhs of course have their own boards, governors etc.and governance is 'complicated' (🙄) My point was you can't blame all the failings of the nhs on government yet say the succeses are nothing to do with them.

We had army personnel helping - can trusts summon up the army?

'We had army personnel helping - can trusts summon up the army?'

Probably Beryl on the chair of governors idea, her ndn is maybe a brigadier so they came up with the plan all by themselves . Nothing to do with the Department of Health oh nooooo..

Now the utter chaos of staffing and the inability to organise a piss up in a brewery by many overpaid hapless nhs managers is all Boris Johnson's personal fault

@JaniieJones

'The governance is complicated but no, trusts are not led by DHSC. They have their own boards. Foundation trusts are answerable to their governors.'

Oh stop being so utterly patronising.

The dhsc and the nhs of course have their own boards, governors etc.and governance is 'complicated' (🙄) My point was you can't blame all the failings of the nhs on government yet say the succeses are nothing to do with them.

And my point was that the government have made very few of the operationally successful decisions. They have worked against much expert professional advice to sell three word strap lines and sell the popular ideas, but actually created mayhem in so doing.

The Nightingales were a good example of appallingly ill thought through ‘look at clever us’ central decision making by the cabinet. Everyone with the slightest clue knew they we’re unworkable white elephants, but the public saw ‘robust action and hospitals built in days’.

I actually don’t think the NHS failed in any way. I know they have been failed.

What a strange turn this thread has taken.

You would be fucked if you live in India. You will be very unhappy with your outlook try and see the positives in life we are only here for a short time. Why spend it miserable ?

If only MN had a dedicated Coronavirus board where they could discuss this sort of stuff.

I agree with @Skyla2005. WHAT have you got to be miserable about? Scrub that, I don't really want to know. If you don't like the current government, turn- up and exercise your right to vote at the next election.

I agree.what a misery

@emilyfrost

Oh calm down and stop being so miserable.

I’m proud of this country and I’m proud of this government. If you’re not and you think it’s so shit nobody’s making you live here.

Unfortunately, the Brexit vote means we don't have the freedom to live anywhere else. Our freedoms have been seriously curtailed.

They think the OP is right to call the behaviour of the populist mob. I would love to know why you are proud of this government. Good grief!!

Just to point out I assume the bulk of you are women and the women’s team made the euro finals in 2009 so why are we obsessed with how poorly the men have done until now?

You still can

I agree about the booing, that upsets me so early on and during the national anthem. The rest of your comments.... nah, I'm so excited we won and can't wait to share this experience with my children on Sunday!

@emilyfrost

Oh calm down and stop being so miserable.

I’m proud of this country and I’m proud of this government. If you’re not and you think it’s so shit nobody’s making you live here.

Wow! That is a real Trumpian post. “If you don’t agree, leave and live somewhere else” You should be ashamed of yourself, but of course you won’t be because you lack insight and tolerance 🤬

I don’t really get being proud of the country. I’m glad I had the good fortune to be born white and intelligent enough to have a good career in a First world country, but proud? Of what?

Unfortunately, the Brexit vote means we don't have the freedom to live anywhere else. Our freedoms have been seriously curtailed

Of course you can.
Leaving the EU didn’t put a stop to people emigrating.

It might be a bit more work than it was before we left if you want to emigrate to an EU country but the rest of the world hasn’t changed

Time to become an immigrant and try for a passport somewhere else then…I don’t disagree with all the future positives soon because why not ? We just been locked up for months and then suddenly there’s billions in a stadium but hating the country… not really :)

@emilyfrost

Oh calm down and stop being so miserable.

I’m proud of this country and I’m proud of this government. If you’re not and you think it’s so shit nobody’s making you live here.

Why?