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Definition of a "single parent"

153 replies

forinborin · 06/07/2021 20:55

Just for traffic.
In your opinion, at what point does the definition of a "single parent" start to apply?

Say:
Scenario 1. Someone who sees their children infrequently, not overnights or long stays, not participating financially or otherwise.
Scenario 2. A standard "weekend parent" arrangement, i.e. every other weekend Fri to Sun, pays the official maintenance amount.
Scenario 3. A parent with 50/50 care and share of all responsibilities.

Asking just out of interest - read something about a person who is more like the first option above, and was puzzled at the "single parent" definition applied to them.

Or is it as simple as "single" + "parent" = "single parent"?

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FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 07/07/2021 13:09

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FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 07/07/2021 13:11

I don't even care if exH calls himself a single parent.

It literally doesn't matter

What does matter is when people try to police language based on their own (mostly wrong) views on what is and isn't the definition of something

JosephineDeBeauharnais · 07/07/2021 13:17

@PearlFriday

is that list for fathers? I'm a single parent, I have my children ALL the time, their father NEVER sees them (but that's the kids' choice)
This is how I would define single parent. I think that if the other parent is involved then you aren’t a single parent. I would use single and lone interchangeably.
ToastyFingers · 07/07/2021 13:18

If pressed I'd say none of them.

The first is a deadbeat, the second is doing the bare minimum and the third is a co-parent, doing their fair share.

Single parent implies that there is a single person doing the parenting, ie, not in a relationship or being helped to parent by anyone.

kindaclassy · 07/07/2021 13:21

It literally doesn't matter

You are very violent towards posters who merely replied to a question asked by the OP. You are the only one who is incapable of disagreeing without insulting others, or abusing your ex.

I don't think anyone but you will care one way or another if your ex has his children every weekend or not Confused

kindaclassy · 07/07/2021 13:23

cadburyegg

unless it was an arranged marriage, no one forced anyone to have several children with someone that is described in such a negative way

CelestialGalaxy · 07/07/2021 13:25

@kindaclassy whether or I agree with your perspective, that comment was definitely way below the belt.

kindaclassy · 07/07/2021 13:28

[quote CelestialGalaxy]@kindaclassy whether or I agree with your perspective, that comment was definitely way below the belt.[/quote]
I'd made exactly the same point to any guy ranting against their ex female partner... no misogyny there!

It was merely in reply to a poster insulting me. Some people really don't handle different opinion very well!

thepeopleversuswork · 07/07/2021 13:37

must sting to have so badly chosen the father of your children

Fuck me that was nasty.

Give yourself a pat on the back for winning the man lottery.

wobytide · 07/07/2021 13:41

@VettiyaIruken

A single parent imo is a parent who is not in a relationship with the other parent or in a live- in relationship with another person who is taking a parental role and who is the primary carer for the child/ren.
Why can only a "primary carer" be a parent?
Sloaneslone · 07/07/2021 13:42

@kindaclassy

And massive eye roll to anyone pretending they are doing it "all on their own" when the other parent actually.. co-parent Grin
What is co parenting? What's the actual definition? Or what's your definition?
Sloaneslone · 07/07/2021 13:48

@kindaclassy

It literally doesn't matter

You are very violent towards posters who merely replied to a question asked by the OP. You are the only one who is incapable of disagreeing without insulting others, or abusing your ex.

I don't think anyone but you will care one way or another if your ex has his children every weekend or not Confused

Violent?

During the majority of this thread, you keep saying things that make no sense. Don't reply to people when challenged and seem to think you are the authority on parenting labels.

And you have been really rude. But you think someone giving you so shit back, after you made a vile comment, is violence? Really

IMNOTSHOUTING · 07/07/2021 13:52

I don't know the technical definition but if someone descrbes themselves to me as a single parent I assume they are single (or at least not cohabiting with a partner) and have the kid(s) most of the time.

kindaclassy · 07/07/2021 13:57

Sloaneslone
seem to think you are the authority on parenting labels. Confused

it's funny how you don't apply this to someone you agree with.

Do re-read the thread, see who has been rude and calling others "stupid" then get annoyed when called out about it...

You (obviously) don't have to agree with him, but no need to twist everything to make me the bad guy.

Sloaneslone · 07/07/2021 14:01

@kindaclassy

Sloaneslone seem to think you are the authority on parenting labels. Confused

it's funny how you don't apply this to someone you agree with.

Do re-read the thread, see who has been rude and calling others "stupid" then get annoyed when called out about it...

You (obviously) don't have to agree with him, but no need to twist everything to make me the bad guy.

I have read the thread. However, I don't have a photographic memory.

If you had, you would see there been several people I disagree with. Shockingly not you.

You seem to have a real vested interest on eether someone qualifies (in your eyes) as a single parent.

Given the above comment about choosing a partner, I am guessing your aren't one. Which makes it odd that you are so interested and so know lots of people who think it's 'ridiculous' to call yourself a single parent, unless they fit YOUR made up definition.

Your comments have just been digs and the one about choosing a parent was vile.

Do you say that to women who are raped and beaten and abused by their partners? 'Sucks to be you....but you shouldn't have chosen badly'.

VettiyaIruken · 07/07/2021 14:03

Well, obviously anyone who is a parent is a parent but I didn't say parent. I said single parent. And imo part of meeting that definition is that you are the one with the greater share of day to day responsibilities. For example, an eow parent who doesn't do the school run, organise dentist visits, take the time off when the kids are ill etc etc is a parent but is not in the role of single parent.
(Imo means in my opinion.)

VettiyaIruken · 07/07/2021 14:06

That was a reply to the poster who quoted me and asked me a question btw.
I'm not butting in on this row that's going on. 😁

forinborin · 07/07/2021 15:20

Oh... I honestly did not expect it to turn into such a massive fight.
I will admit that yes, I was a bit butthurt by the choice of words, and yes, it is about my ex, who described himself as a single parent recently - whilst having a total of three short visits to see the children in 2021 so far, and paying £1/month in maintenance.

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Sloaneslone · 07/07/2021 15:22

@forinborin

Oh... I honestly did not expect it to turn into such a massive fight. I will admit that yes, I was a bit butthurt by the choice of words, and yes, it is about my ex, who described himself as a single parent recently - whilst having a total of three short visits to see the children in 2021 so far, and paying £1/month in maintenance.
I get that must be annoying.

But let him crack on. People who know him will soon gather that he barely has anything to do with the kids.

Try not to let it bother you too much.

santabetterwashhishands · 07/07/2021 15:22

Someone who gave birth or fathered a child who is also single 🤷‍♀️

forinborin · 07/07/2021 15:32

But let him crack on. People who know him will soon gather that he barely has anything to do with the kids.
You are right. It was in a semi-public context (along the lines "and now Mr ExH will share his tips with the group about how to do something difficult when you are a single parent"), so I probably just really overreacted.
I mean, I wasn't a part of the group, he sent the recording to me, to show me that it's not all that bad, I just need to follow his tips Grin

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FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 07/07/2021 17:14

You are very violent towards posters who merely replied to a question asked by the OP.

You didn't 'merely reply' though - and not sure how I ca be violent with words - but you made a remarkably nasty comment that has not only been deleted but several posters have pulled you up on.

Bore off with your gaslighting. Enjoy your bitterness, meanwhile I'll carry on in life not getting upset over what other people label themselves

FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 07/07/2021 17:17

The 'sorry you chose a bad partner' comment is such a lazy low blow it's fucking offensive. Get smarter with your insults. It's embarrassingly sloppy

CelestialGalaxy · 07/07/2021 17:27

@kindofclassy I never said it was mysogenistic, I said it was a below the belt comment.
You cannot tell how crap and difficult a partner is going to be regarding children once they are an ex. Some are awkward out of spite or feeling they are now free and can shirk responsibility as someone else (the parent you are blaming for picking a rubbish partner) will pick up their share of the responsibilities.

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