Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

PIL childcare, driving me mad!

130 replies

Chiwi · 05/07/2021 15:26

My PIL, predominantly FIL, provide ad-hoc childcare for my 18 month old. We work shifts so it usually works out 1 X half day per week. We planned to use formal childcare but cancelled her name from the waitlist at PIL insistence. It saved us money and I like the idea of DD having a lovely relationship with her grandparents.

I work part time so most of the time she is with me. I do bathtime, bedtime, most mealtimes, I am her constant. That's not to say her dad is useless, he is brilliant but works a lot and sometimes away, but regardless she adores him and he does lots for her when he is here.

She has been going to PIL for 6 months now. Initial reluctance but now she loves it there, constant attention and fun, no demands placed on her and she can have whatever she likes. Doesn't bother me, that's what grandparents are for and it's not often.

So my issue is; she has started throwing the tiniest strop when I arrive to collect her. They make a huge deal mock carrying her away saying 'you stay here with grandad', they've started it now before she even strops and almost wind her up into it. It's really starting to piss me off. They've also started now saying 'oh you're always excited to see daddy'. Obviously rationally I can think daddy and grandparents are exciting because she sees them less and they don't do the boring things with her as much. But it hurts a little.

Last night DPs mum text him and said 'we are a bit worried DGD doesn't seem to have bonded that well with chiwi'. I am so upset. We have a wonderful bond, she is affectionate, she trusts me, when she hurts herself or is poorly it is me she wants.

I want to change my work pattern to have my 2 days as set days and put her into nursery those days. I'm fed up of this from his parents. But I'm worried I'm cutting my nose of to spite my face?
AIBU to do that, should I suck it up?

OP posts:
Aimee1987 · 05/07/2021 15:57

That is a horrible thing to say about a parent.
I'm with others time to find a nursery place.
My son generally spends a good 5-10 minutes trying to get back into nursery when we leave. It's a good sign that he enjoys it and is happy there but does not in any way mean he doesnt love me. Like you I'm the one for cuddles when he falls ver or teeth are hurting or just feeling sleepy ect.

Be very clear with your partner how much that hurt and that it is the final straw in regards to them providing care.

Beautiful3 · 05/07/2021 15:57

Wow that comment would truly hurt my feelings. I'd sort out fixed shifts and nursery. I'd such up the costs because now you're in control and it's only for a couple of years.

Merryoldgoat · 05/07/2021 15:57

I was ready for a wholesale YABU until I got to the bit where they text your DP. That’s unnecessarily nasty and clearly not true.

And all kids do this.

My older used to cry when I collected him from PIL or my aunt, used to say ‘off to work’ and push me out at drop off.

My younger can’t speak but he closes the door on my and takes Granny’s hand.

It’s just novelty. And same with the whole magic dad ballache.

I played up to it. ‘Oh how lovely! You’re clearly the favourite tonight. Ok gonna have a long bath then.’

Stop that nonsense with PIL though.

Beautiful3 · 05/07/2021 15:57

Suck up

BunnyRuddington · 05/07/2021 15:58

Your DH obviously knows his DPs well. The stupid game they play at pick-up is immature and shows that they haven't got her best interests at heart? Why wind up a young child like that fir your own amusement but the test is just plain nasty.

I'd start looking for alternative childcare now.

And yes, lots of children do cry at pick-up. They often start to misbehave as well. My own DPs would say "I can't believe they've started behaving like this since you arrived, they've been angels all day". It's no reflection on you or your parenting and how dare they suggest it's indicative of a poor bond! Angry

Chiwi · 05/07/2021 15:58

@CuriousaboutSamphire hahaha I'm glad I'm not the only one who is THAT guy!!
Oh we will all be one big happy family 😂

OP posts:
PatchworkElmer · 05/07/2021 15:59

DS is like this when I collect him from grandparents house. Doesn’t mean he actually wants to stay with them over me.

I’d be tempted to put her in nursery but maybe see how things settle now your DP has laid down the law. Depends how hurt you are I guess- you are definitely not being unreasonable though, they are really out of line here.

CaraherEIL · 05/07/2021 16:02

Bloody PIL do this then are wailing on Gransnet about how they were just trying to help and they just don’t understand what’s gone wrong. It’s always shitty stuff about the DIL.

MouldyPotato · 05/07/2021 16:03

So glad your DP stood up for you. I'd not ever see my PIL again if that's what they thought of me.

Wrotten · 05/07/2021 16:04

Jesus fucking Christ, what a horrible thing to say!

ElectricTreeLeaf · 05/07/2021 16:05

I am a SAHM and live miles away from PIL and my parents so I have always had the children in the day when Dh was working. I did drop off and pick up from school every day for years and years. The minute Dh comes with me you thought they hadn't seen him in years. This is from 10 year olds, a yell of Dad! as they exit the school, which I volunteer in so even funnier for staff.

Your PIL should not be encouraging with the whole stay here shit, no nursery would ever do that. Your DP needs to set them straight on how pick up needs to go which is matter of fact and them saying we will see you soon. If they don't do this then definitely nursery or a childminder.

The text from your DP's Mum is awful, undermines your relationship with your child and is nasty to boot. I am glad your DP told her to wind her neck in.

My friend's MIL did the whole your baby likes me best and it was immediately met by her son saying don't be fucking ridiculous in a room full of people. It was glorious.

Jent13c · 05/07/2021 16:08

Nursery can be tricky if you are working shifts...unless you can get a flexible space they often want specific days which just doesn't work when your days change every week so can absolutely see the appeal of sticking with family childcare.

I love that your DP was so very firm with them. This is incredibly common...have a Google of 'after school restraint collapse' its an early form of this. Shes been practicing her best social behaviour all day and slight changes to routine and eating and the minute she sees you she knows she is safe and can relax. Its a sign that you are the person she is most close to. She doesn't have the vocabulary to express what she is feeling yet and is not a behaviour to be managed...she just needs a lot of cuddles from you. Its like she has been put to grandmas and as far as she knows that's her new forever home but when you arrive she realises that you are there for her again but becomes overwhelmed with that emotion. When I put my DS went to nursery for a couple of days and then we had a day together again he was a clingy emotional mess. We sat and cuddled all day and he had to be attached to me at every moment, hard at the time but it was him showing me that I was the person he had the biggest attachment to.

Your PIL are morons who don't understand child development and making things worse. Please don't lose your confidence as her mum.

jessycake · 05/07/2021 16:09

I think your in laws are being very stupid , but the bond with them is beneficial to your daughter , If it is working just ignore their delusions.
Nursery could be great for her , but equally she may not just settle straight away, then there are the usual bugs going around that you would have to take time of for on occasions and still pay .

Fluffycloudland77 · 05/07/2021 16:10

He has always been of the opinion that they shouldn't have too much involvement in childcare because it makes them feel entitled to have an opinion or a say in how we raise her. I guess he was right.

I don’t normally say things like this but you need to listen to your dh in future because he saw this coming & you disregarded him. Now it’s all gone tits & your upset but it wouldn’t have happened if you’d listened to him.

I tried to fix broken ties with my in-laws & that went wrong too, now I’m labelled a controlling wife 🤦🏻‍♀️. Which I know sounds trivial but outside influences resulted in him not taking meds properly for a month & put his health at risk.

Chiwi · 05/07/2021 16:10

I actually don't think the text was orchestrated by MIL, I could be wrong. The theatrics come from FIL and I think he would have been whittling in her ear to make her say something. She has always been lovely to me, and is a bit less ridiculous at pick up time. FIL is a total drama queen, DD does adore him though.

I'm fine with my partner being super dad when he is here because he would never undermine me.

I've contacted a few nurseries and hoping to go and visit one this week!

OP posts:
earthyfire · 05/07/2021 16:11

The text would seal with for me, nursery.

ToddlerLockdown · 05/07/2021 16:11

I haven’t RTFT but what a Horrid thing to say!

I am certain you have a wonderful bond with your child. They feel safe and know they can be ‘unreasonable’ and a typical toddler and know that you will still love them unconditionally.

Twoforthree · 05/07/2021 16:12

Just laugh it off.
“Don’t be so ridiculous. She’s spoiled here and that’s lovely, but someone has to do some actual parenting for the rest of the time” And laugh at their implications.

lastcall · 05/07/2021 16:13

Nursery it would be!

How horribly rude and wrong of him to say that. Clearly hasn't a clue about small children's behaviour.

dancemom · 05/07/2021 16:14

If they are saying that directly to your DP what sneaky things are they saying to your DD?

Nursery for certain

Chiwi · 05/07/2021 16:15

@Fluffycloudland77 totally agree. I was seriously wrong on this one and should have listened to him.
I always felt he was a bit harsh on his parents and think I need to make a big apology.

@Jent13c thank you for this. I could rationally tell myself that, I think, but then with them enjoying/encouraging it and then making a comment on what it meant for mine and DDs bond really hurt. So your comment definitely helps.

OP posts:
randomlyLostInWales · 05/07/2021 16:15

He has always been of the opinion that they shouldn't have too much involvement in childcare because it makes them feel entitled to have an opinion or a say in how we raise her. I guess he was right.

Well - I think he's probably right - so I'd try for the two set days and find a nice nursery or childminder for the rest.

Seeingadistance · 05/07/2021 16:16

@earthyfire

The text would seal with for me, nursery.
This.

I actually gasped out loud when I read what the text said. Just awful. So cruel and manipulative.

Paramaribo · 05/07/2021 16:18

Reading through your post I initially thought that they were immature but the text from your MIL/FIL sent was plain nasty. I would definitely change your work days and start her at nursery. Flowers.

diddl · 05/07/2021 16:19

The Gps can still have a bond that is "beneficial" to their Gd without doing childcare.

I remember my PILs saying to the GCs that surely they didn't want to go home with us & wanted to stay with them (was never going to happen), but at least they didn't ever wander into the realm of personal attack.

Your husband seems to have their number & know whether or not they are being deliberately hurtful & they could try in future to alienate.

If he's happy with formal childcare I'd go for it.