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That Sarah Vine column

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candycane222 · 02/07/2021 17:23

Well twitter.com/joepike/status/1410993004874248193?s=19

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RickiTarr · 05/07/2021 18:18

I’d better correct myself there. Looking at the holey press record, I don’t think there was a trial. I think maybe he did a deal for whereby half the charges were dropped and he pled to the rest.

Poor chap. Poor Diane.

longwayoff · 05/07/2021 18:41

Yes, it all sounds awful and very sad for all involved. To attempt to relate DA to the behaviour of the sleazebags who've weaselled their way into the current government, snouts in the trough all the way , is simply absurd. Apparently Dominic Cummings has added his character assessment of Bozo to his Times revelations today. I understand it isn't
flattering.

RickiTarr · 05/07/2021 18:54

Apparently Dominic Cummings has added his character assessment of Bozo to his Times revelations today. I understand it isn't flattering.

Every time I try to shed some subscriptions, something too tempting comes along weeks later. Smile

Frownette · 05/07/2021 19:10

@RickiTarr I think you can read 2 free articles a month

RickiTarr · 05/07/2021 19:11

I’ve already gobbled them up, but thanks. Smile

longwayoff · 05/07/2021 19:50

Aubrey Allegretto has summarised DC epistle in Guardian. The arrogance of DC is astonishing. His opinion of our PM is unsurprising. He effectively says 'we' (his Brexit team?) will have our way once we're in No 10 as BJ is lazy and uninterested, we'll have free rein to do as we please. We - the rest of us, not him- should all be far more worried and angry than we are.

AmIPeriOrAreYouJustAnnoying · 05/07/2021 20:39

Diane Abbott went to Cambridge and was the first black female MP and is the longest serving black MP. What have you achieved?

Exactly! @Oldmrswasherwoman back off!!!

Blossomtoes · 05/07/2021 20:44

@longwayoff

Aubrey Allegretto has summarised DC epistle in Guardian. The arrogance of DC is astonishing. His opinion of our PM is unsurprising. He effectively says 'we' (his Brexit team?) will have our way once we're in No 10 as BJ is lazy and uninterested, we'll have free rein to do as we please. We - the rest of us, not him- should all be far more worried and angry than we are.
Fucking hell. I find that seriously scary. Please God let the Tory party never let Gove anywhere near No 10.
RickiTarr · 05/07/2021 20:45

@longwayoff

Aubrey Allegretto has summarised DC epistle in Guardian. The arrogance of DC is astonishing. His opinion of our PM is unsurprising. He effectively says 'we' (his Brexit team?) will have our way once we're in No 10 as BJ is lazy and uninterested, we'll have free rein to do as we please. We - the rest of us, not him- should all be far more worried and angry than we are.
I think I might be speechless.
longwayoff · 05/07/2021 21:16

Its bloody gobsmacking. A coup, no less, as many of us said at the time, watching the defenestration of the old Tories and the new grasping sleazebags, who couldn't believe their luck, welcomed into the embrace of the thrilled electorate. So bloody depressing.

PerkingFaintly · 06/07/2021 11:15

From that article, quoting Cummings' blog:

“The problems of Boris as PM can be partly mitigated by us,” Cummings explained, “given we understand Whitehall much better than him and understand effective political action much better than him and the Conservative party. Our team will handle rough seas much better than the others.”
[...]
Cummings said that when Johnson won the keys to Downing Street in July 2019, the prime minister urged him to join him as an adviser and convinced him by saying he could assemble his old Vote Leave team, saying: “All I care about is winning.”
[...]
In return, Cummings said his demand was that all special advisers would report to him and that he would be granted permission to oversee a “fundamental re-engineering of Britain’s priorities, policies, how it works”.

PerkingFaintly · 06/07/2021 11:19

So yes, a coup.

I've been saying all along that Johnson was just the frontman for unelected and unelectable Cummings – and here Cummings is, confirming it.

(Or at least, claiming it. Cummings is a liar, after all. But the damage is the same.)

longwayoff · 06/07/2021 11:44

Thanks perking can't cut and paste from my mobile. And here we are, having a gentle chat about the coup. THE COUP, EVERYONE. Despair. No opposition. It's just dreadful and I can't see a way out.

PerkingFaintly · 06/07/2021 11:46

Makes sense of Cummings' desire for the UK to leave the EU, too.

Cummings wanted a fiefdom. Power in the EU is too diffuse to seize in one swoop, whereas in the UK he could just put his boy in No 10 and mooch through the doors behind him. Then he needed "top of the UK" to be the pinnacle of his power pyramid – no lateral alliances with equals raising the landscape around him. Nope, smaller pyramid, with him at the top, is just what he wants.

And presto, Cummings becomes lord of all he surveys.

PerkingFaintly · 06/07/2021 11:52

Cummings has absolute contempt for us mere voters, hasn't he?

He knows we wouldn't vote for him or for his manifesto (which is basically "Tear everything down and trust me – I'm terribly clever so whatever I do will be better, right?").

So he sells us a pup with floppy hair.

longwayoff · 06/07/2021 12:07

Yup. Everyone loves a labrador it seems.

zyd32 · 06/07/2021 12:09

As unpopular an opinion as this will be, I actually think Cummings speaks more sense than BJ at times. He's crazy and rather unhinged but yet some of what he says is an interesting take on the Westminster bubble. As a Tory voter, this says quite a lot about the current standard of government. Not in a good way.

Blossomtoes · 06/07/2021 12:16

@zyd32

As unpopular an opinion as this will be, I actually think Cummings speaks more sense than BJ at times. He's crazy and rather unhinged but yet some of what he says is an interesting take on the Westminster bubble. As a Tory voter, this says quite a lot about the current standard of government. Not in a good way.
Well you voted for them and the signs couldn’t have been much clearer - illegally proroguing Parliament, kicking out every decent moderate MP they had - the writing was very clearly on the wall before December 2019 but you still put your cross in the box that put them in power.
longwayoff · 06/07/2021 12:49

Dear Lord. The hypnotic power of a Strong Leader. Bedazzled by sodding Cummings. Eyes Wide Open.

justasking111 · 06/07/2021 14:02

@PerkingFaintly

Cummings has absolute contempt for us mere voters, hasn't he?

He knows we wouldn't vote for him or for his manifesto (which is basically "Tear everything down and trust me – I'm terribly clever so whatever I do will be better, right?").

So he sells us a pup with floppy hair.

Cummings is a statistician why would voters come under his remit?
thereisonlyoneofme · 06/07/2021 14:43

I hope Cummings has a good bank balance as he would not be a lot of peoples ideal candidate for employment. What a back stabbing, bitter, slug

Odisia · 06/07/2021 14:50

I've been reading Dominic Cummings tweets in disbelief. I genuinely don't know what to make of them or what is driving them. But he definitely wants Johnson gone. Hancock was a warning shot to the PM and there's no doubt in my mind now that he was behind it.

Phantasmo · 06/07/2021 14:50

If Cummings were a woman there'd be so many columns and opinion pieces about why Dominica was letting herself, and other women, down by being so emotional and bitter and vengeful.

zyd32 · 06/07/2021 15:02

Blossomtrees Yes I did vote for them, partly as I voted Leave and they stood on this ticket but partly as there wasn't a good alternative candidate in our local area.

With the benefit of hindsight, I'd still have voted Conservative as our MP has done a decent enough job in our constituency. I think Johnson and various other Cabinet members have fallen short of respectable government in a number of areas though. But there's not another party that I'd vote for at the moment either.

zyd32 · 06/07/2021 15:02

Sorry, toes not trees!