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That Sarah Vine column

557 replies

candycane222 · 02/07/2021 17:23

Well twitter.com/joepike/status/1410993004874248193?s=19

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RedToothBrush · 03/07/2021 14:22

@longwayoff

Urgh, these politicos. They're all a bit close to one another. Feels very, very grubby.
The swinging comments do seem rather close to the bone, don't they?
RedToothBrush · 03/07/2021 14:31

@Classica

I have a strong stomach but all this chat in the last 24 hrs about Gove's penis will test me. Envy
Ahhhh Kompromat. UK Style.

No weeing on people please like The American. We are British.

the80sweregreat · 03/07/2021 14:37

Big swingers meet up going on in Grantham this weekend I have just seen on the daily Mail website!

Classica · 03/07/2021 14:40

@the80sweregreat

Big swingers meet up going on in Grantham this weekend I have just seen on the daily Mail website!
isn't that Maggie Thatcher's hometown? Grin

Maybe it's a Tory swinging conference in her honour.

Blossomtoes · 03/07/2021 14:41

@sadperson16

That’s me. I am that addict. The only real difference between me and the more common perception is that the drugs I take, antidepressants, are legal and available on prescription.

Totally unhelpful

@justasking111, sorry not sure what you mean?

However unhelpful you think it might be, she’s sharing her experience. Do you think censoring is the way to go?
RedToothBrush · 03/07/2021 14:41

@the80sweregreat

Big swingers meet up going on in Grantham this weekend I have just seen on the daily Mail website!
Well the Mail does seem to be ontop of all the big political events and gossip for some reason... I guess they have sent some roving reporters.
the80sweregreat · 03/07/2021 14:43

Grantham : It's where Mrs Thatcher was born and bred yes!

JudyMoonlight · 03/07/2021 14:50

Maybe the Jungle VIP rumours are why Miriam (as in Nick Clegg’s wife) shut down suggestions on a MN webchat that her and Nick had ever had MG and SV round for dinner?

Zotter · 03/07/2021 14:52

You only have to look at the Covid section of mn to see there there are a lot of people struggling to comprehend that risk has altered and isn't what it was some month ago and thats having an impact on behaviour to an extent which is possibly no longer justified by the data.

Risk of death has dropped dramatically I agree. However, there are other factors to consider. Individuals will have to balance the risk of these other factors. Our govt seem to be deciding to think they are worth risking, different opinions abound.

Long CoVid is one risk, ONS reports 1 million people a year living with long covid, and 385K have had it for over a year. 634K said it adversely affected their daily lives. Even 7-8% of 2-15 yr olds & 12% of 17-24 yr olds reported symptoms for over 12 weeks.

I have had ME for 23 years, since age 27, severely now, bedridden 24/7 for the last ten years. ME shares some similar symptoms with a sub group of long CoVid - long CoVid seems an umbrella term, particularly the post exertional symptom exacerbation after what can often be trivial amounts of activity. It is this amongst other debilitating symptoms which characterises ME and not fatigue as is often wrongly assumed by many, fatigue is my least troublesome symptom. It is not known yet whether the two conditions are identical at the molecular/biochemical level. Also individuals who developed long CoVid and have still not recovered completely have been ill no more than 16 months, so still the possibility LC may be ultimately self limiting even if recovery may take up to a couple of years. Some are reporting recovery after even a year.

However, should the condition in many in this sub group of LC turn out to become chronic as it is for majority of people with ME lifelong disability may ensue. This risk to our young people concerns me.

Also an expert online shared how ‘every new case provides chance for further mutation. Cases are rising rapidly. Delta went from 0% to over 90% of cases in 10 weeks. As children get infected, any mutation that can better infect their vaxxed parents (and their parents' friends) will have a selection advantage.’

justasking111 · 03/07/2021 14:55

@JudyMoonlight

Maybe the Jungle VIP rumours are why Miriam (as in Nick Clegg’s wife) shut down suggestions on a MN webchat that her and Nick had ever had MG and SV round for dinner?
What's a jungle VIP??
Classica · 03/07/2021 15:00

Now I'm the king of the swingers
Oh, the jungle VIP

ChubbyLittleManInACampervan · 03/07/2021 15:02

The biggest swinger
The jungle VIP

From the jungle book

ancientgran · 03/07/2021 15:04

@the80sweregreat

Big swingers meet up going on in Grantham this weekend I have just seen on the daily Mail website!
Are they discriminating against small swingers? Does size matter?
the80sweregreat · 03/07/2021 15:07

Only big swingers allowed

the80sweregreat · 03/07/2021 15:10

The daily Mail comments are funny ..
witty people out there

SchadenfreudePersonified · 03/07/2021 15:10

@SpindleWhorl

That Cabinet needs some Mr Sheen.
Mr Sheen?

This, more like!

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TSSDNCOP · 03/07/2021 15:11

If I find out that Give is having an affair, that there are two women on earth that he found to sleep with him then it will restore my faith that perhaps one day I may have a date again.

DeathByWalkies · 03/07/2021 15:13

@TSSDNCOP

If I find out that Give is having an affair, that there are two women on earth that he found to sleep with him then it will restore my faith that perhaps one day I may have a date again.
You may be making some unjustified assumptions about the gender of who's willing to sleep with him - if Twitter rumours are to be believed.
the80sweregreat · 03/07/2021 15:14

He may have found a man and a woman on earth : who knows really ?

ancientgran · 03/07/2021 15:16

[quote Zilla1]@RubyViolet
One take on Hancock might be about the relatively swift announcement from Sajid Javid about lockdown ending on time and no return, irrespective of how Delta variant progresses in the UK.

It seems the powers that be were unimpressed that June lockdown ending was postponed with Hancock's insistence and it was best to get him out of the way without the risk of him resigning for a COVID lockdown disagreement reason hence the method of his political execution.

No evidence beyond an informal steer by public servant insiders who are not political insiders.[/quote]
Couldn't they have just said we have this video, we will show it and you and yours will be humiliated so why not just go now. He could have easily said after the last 18 months he needed time to spend with his family and recover.

Less damage to him and the party surely.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 03/07/2021 15:16

What makes you say that with such vehemence? I actually feel that the vitriol directed against Abbott is disturbing end disproportionate...I think that is backed up by the statistics on which MP sadly receives the most abuse. Actually, for BME women, whether you agree with her or not, Diane Abbott has achieved something important and I feel uncomfortable with how people constantly single her out and denigrate her intelligence and morality.

Agree - she seems to be someone that people find easy to denigrate, and I don't know why.

She's no worse than most other MP's (hardly an accolade, I know) and much better than many of them.

ancientgran · 03/07/2021 15:17

@the80sweregreat

Only big swingers allowed
Poor small swingers.
Maggiesfarm · 03/07/2021 15:20

He has said, or maybe both of them have said, they just drifted apart. It happens.

The Telegraph has an article saying that Gove must answer questions about whether he broke social distancing guidelines after splitting from his wife. I couldn't read the full article because you have to sign up and I have no wish to do that. It may not be all that relevant or even true.

Frownette · 03/07/2021 15:27

I'm having a hard time following all this

YouJustFoldItIn · 03/07/2021 15:29

I read that column at the time and it raised an eyebrow, so I am not at all surprised by this news.