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To cry because one my my jabs is the unregistered AZ Indian one...

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Oxonschools · 02/07/2021 09:55

And we are supposed to be going as a whole family, with the grandparents, to France on Sunday.

Does anyone know how I can find out if I will be let into France.

OP posts:
FortniteBoysMum · 02/07/2021 13:19

France is amber and not recognising the Indian az jab. You need a pcr test to be safe. One of mine is Indian version dp has had both UK version. We have now decided to change our holiday in France to either majorca or Greece depending where is green on the next update as both recognise my Indian jab. Greece has the advantage mind as our youngest will only need pcr test to return as his under 12. I found this online earlier about where recognises the Indian jab.

To cry because one my my jabs is the unregistered AZ Indian one...
Aberteifi · 02/07/2021 13:24

My first dose says A/Z batch number 4120Z003
Second says OX AZ batch number
so my first i affected but not my second
Luckily i'm not going anywhere

Zilla1 · 02/07/2021 13:27

Where did you have your vaccination OP if you're in England? Massvac, pharmacist, PCN or home visit by GP/nurse?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 02/07/2021 13:37

According to what I’ve just read on the BBC news site, ‘several European countries have already approved the Covishield (Indian AZ) jab for travel. These include Austria, Germany, Slovenia, Greece, Ireland, Spain, Iceland and Switzerland.’

Can’t say I’m altogether surprised if France is still holding out, but presumably they’ll have to back down soon.

Thiscantreallybehappening · 02/07/2021 13:43

@RestingPandaFace

Yes, thank you lots of posters have pointed that out Blush I never saw that arrow but its all there: batch number etc

Fairnair · 02/07/2021 13:44

Batch numbers of both my OAZ vaccinations were not put on my card. Did think it was strange after my first jab, but thought if there had been a problem etc. they would presumably been able to check which batch was give out on a particular day, & time slot.

Thiscantreallybehappening · 02/07/2021 13:45

@RestingPandaFace

My brain clearly wasn't engaging earlier on, I've had coffee now BrewGrinSmile

bishbashbosh99 · 02/07/2021 13:53

I was just reading about this, there's nothing to worry about in terms of effectiveness, it's the travel restrictions but they'll be ironed out soon. Don't panic

bishbashbosh99 · 02/07/2021 13:54

Sorry you didn't even mention effectiveness. No idea what I'm talking about

AdaHopper · 02/07/2021 13:54

@Oxonschools

And we are supposed to be going as a whole family, with the grandparents, to France on Sunday.

Does anyone know how I can find out if I will be let into France.

If you are really worrues you won't be let in, you could get a PCR test...
Doodlebug71 · 02/07/2021 13:55

@Etinox

Step away from this thread OP, the entry requirements to France are complicated and there’s a lot of misinformation. •You definitely need a v recent negative covid test. •To travel without an urgent reason you need to be double vaccinated. PM me if you wish- there are other things to take into account and it’ll probably be ok.
That's precisely why I posted a link to the French information. I'd post it from the French site, but no guarantee OP can read French. If OP's jab is imminent, and travel is Sunday, they won't be considered double vaccinated. As you're no doubt aware, @Etinox, it doesn't matter what the armchair experts on MN say, if French Immigration Control pick up on that, they're stuffed.
Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 02/07/2021 13:56

My first vaccination was 4120Z003. Received at Heathrow vaccination centre.
Bugger...

SpringLoadedJizz · 02/07/2021 13:57

@TheGenealogist

Posters in Scotland - most posters on this thread are confidently saying "the batch is on the card" or "check the app" because they are in England.

In Scotland we don't get cards.

When I log into the NHS Scotland vaccine appointment list website (vacs.nhs.scot/csp?id=vaccine_appointment_list) it shows the dates of my 2 jabs, and that I have had Pfizer, but not batch numbers. I am assuming this information is recorded somewhere but we in Scotland do not have access to it.

I can't even log into that as I don't have a username. I didn't get a blue envelope, just a phone call from my GP's office.

I'm not planning to travel but I guess I would have to contact the surgery if I needed to prove I'd had both jags.

CornishGem1975 · 02/07/2021 13:59

Both my jabs were AZ but my batch numbers look nothing like this, they have letters at the start...

whataboutbob · 02/07/2021 14:05

@ancientgran I think Angela merkel’s suggestion to impose quarantine on all U.K. travellers to EU is quite sensible- we have 40x Germany‘s number of cases! I speak as someone who has had to cancel 2 trips to France, because I’d have to quarantine on the way back!

Doodlebug71 · 02/07/2021 14:05

@Oxonschools: This is the information you need.

www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coronavirus-advice-for-foreign-nationals-in-france/#sommaire_1
If you are vaccinated:

upon boarding, each traveller aged 11 years or older must present a negative PCR test taken less than 72 hours before the flight or a negative antigenic test taken less than 48 hours before the flight.
The measures regarding pressing grounds for travel and quarantine which are applicable to vaccinated adults also apply to any minors accompanying them, whether they are vaccinated or not.
If you are not vaccinated:

you can only travel to France if you have pressing grounds for travel. The list of pressing grounds is set out in the certificate of international travel drawn up by the Ministry of the Interior.
each traveller aged 11 years or older must present a negative PCR test taken less than 72 hours before departure or a negative antigenic test taken less than 48 hours before departure.
you may be subject to a random test when you arrive in France.
you must pledge to self-isolate for 7 days."

OP, If you are having your second jab today/this weekend, you won't be considered fully vaccinated. (same page information):

"Travel documents
Depending on your circumstances, you must complete and carry some of the following documents in order to board:

proof of vaccination. It will only be valid if it proves that you are fully vaccinated, i.e.:
Two weeks after the second shot for two-shot vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca);
Four weeks after the shot for one-shot vaccines (Johnson & Johnson);
Two weeks after the shot for vaccines administered to people who have already had COVID-19 (only one dose is necessary).
Only vaccines authorized by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) will be accepted, i.e. Pfizer (Comirnaty), Moderna, AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) and Johnson & Johnson (Janssen)."

RichardMarxisinnocent · 02/07/2021 14:05

@Thiscantreallybehappening

if you go into travel then click on show details it lists everything there

I have: Covid-19 Vaccine
AstraZeneca
Dose 1

         Date of Vaccination:

Then the same for dose 2. No batch number listed.

Where is your batch number listed?

Click the drop down arrow to the right of the name of the vaccine.
LaurieSchafferIsAllBitterNow · 02/07/2021 14:11

@Chrysanthemum5

I'm in Scotland, and when I look at my NHS vaccination record it doesn't have the batch numbers.
Same here, I have dates listed, AstraZeneca AB with Vaxzevria shown underneath as Vaccine Medicinal product

no batch numbers at all.

TableFlowerss · 02/07/2021 14:18

Eeeeeerrer? Wtf. Why are these not recognised?

LaurieSchafferIsAllBitterNow · 02/07/2021 14:22

@SpringLoadedJizz ...you can find out your username, have a fossick about the vacs.nhs.scot site and with your name and DOB you will get sorted, that's what i had to do. Slightly complicated for me as I have a double barrelled name and had to have the exact syntax so took a few goes!

However This article says that even if it says Vaxzevria it could still have been Covishield as they are just listing all atrazencas as vaxzevria.
so that's helpful.

There are instruction to be able to find the batch numbers via the NHS app, but guessing that won't work for NHS Scotland. Bugger.

SugarAndSpiceIsNice · 02/07/2021 14:24

I can't believe the discriminatory attitude that EU is so blatantly displaying. Their action will impact the entire Covax initiative.
I never thought I would say this but thank goodness for Brexit.

ClosdesMouches · 02/07/2021 14:26

However This article says that even if it says Vaxzevria it could still have been Covishield as they are just listing all atrazencas as vaxzevria.
so that's helpful.

Yes, can confirm this. Mine says Vaxzevria but is batch # 4120Z002.

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 02/07/2021 14:33

@SugarAndSpiceIsNice

I can't believe the discriminatory attitude that EU is so blatantly displaying. Their action will impact the entire Covax initiative. I never thought I would say this but thank goodness for Brexit.
They're really not though.
  1. Nine EU countries have said they will accept visitors who have been vaccinated with these batches
  1. The UK never sought EU approval for these batches, so how is it the EU's fault?

The ability that some people have to turn things into a 'thank God for Brexit' narrative is absolutely staggering.

beigebrownblue · 02/07/2021 14:40

Sorry, no sympathy. People in other countries are suffering as they are due to the crisis and you are moaning about not being able to go on holiday.

Yes, I know I will be shot down for that.
Bring it on.
Sick to death of people bleating about their 'worries' about not being able to go abroad.
Grow up.

2389Champ · 02/07/2021 14:40

Yep, my second vax is also on the Covishield list. I didn’t want the vaccine but reluctantly realised I was stuffed if I wanted to travel and that it would eventually be inevitable that we would have to have it as the way forward, so I’m particularly hacked off to find this out.

However, it does sound as though it’s just a formality and approval will be given in the very near future - unless some EU countries decide to be awkward.