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would you do this for your DH?

313 replies

LittleGoldfish · 23/11/2007 11:30

My DH has managed to get 9 points on his drivers license for speeding offences, I however in my 36 years have never managed any.

He asked me if I would have the next set of points put on my drivers license otherwise he will lose his license (in other words say it was me driving). I told him to f off and to learn how to stick to the speed limit- I can managed it so why can't he?

AIBU about this, he reckons 3 points on my license wont make much difference but I am in the process of having a CRB check done (applied to study nursing) and don't want any criminal offences although I know they don't take driving offences too seriously, but still.

He is in a major mood with me atm. AIBU about not wanting someone elses points on my license? especially as I haven't been the one speeding.

OP posts:
lomond · 24/11/2007 22:11

Don't do it!

If he doesn't want any more points on his license then he should slow down! What if he ends up causing an accident or killing someone? Speed limits are there for a reason.

kama · 24/11/2007 22:14

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shergar · 24/11/2007 22:15

YANBU. He needs to learn to drive within the speed limit.

chenin · 24/11/2007 22:25

Well... edam... I can't be that bad a driver, having driven for 31 years without a blemish on my licence! Also, I drive in Spain for a few months every year too... so despite what you may think, I have been berluddy unlucky and I am a damn good driver!

hayCHingleBells · 24/11/2007 22:27

I am a driving instructor and have missed out on this thread, i think ive read it all thoroughly.

I guess what this other instuctor was saying was that sometimes in certain situations, people can be watching the road intensley and their speed can waiver up or down depending on the situation on the road.
I think he was trying to say that as a certain situation occurs on the road in front of you, you may misjudge your spped very slightly at the same time as passing a camera.
Like for instance, you go to overtake a cyclist. As you begin to pass him, a faster vehicle turns out of a side road toward you, your safest option is to put your foot down and pass him quicker. You pull back in safely ahead of the cyclist and a camera flashes you doing 33 in a 30!

I think there should certainly be more leaniancy/discretion for those caught doing minor speeding - sometimes it is necessary to be safe.

All of you who are disgraced at the thought of speeding, should i suggest watch their own sppedos in busy urban environments.

However, OPs dp is disgraceful! Repeaeted offender doing more than is actually legal or safe.

I used to be a speeder.
Then i learnt to drive properly, to be an instructor.
I hated it at first, it takes all the fun out of driving. But ive got used to it, i can see the dangers far more clearly now. Your driving around in a lethal weapon to be taken very seriously. I hope its not my kid your dp hits op when he does it gain, but doesnt get off as easily this time with just a few points, this time the worst happens!
Of course he and you think that this wont ever actually happen to you. Well im afraid it does, it happens to normal people all the time, everyday.
People who speed excessively, are skilled experienced drivers as well as young boy racers, but the thing is, stopping distances!
Who actually knows the required stopping distances, anybody??
Not many, why would you need to know? Aah, but you do need to know everyone who sets out behind the wheel tomorrow needs to know them.

Right, i think ive given enough of a lecture.
Sorry, went right off on one then!

WendyWeber · 24/11/2007 22:27

Small boy knocked down and killed here (he ran out between 2 parked cars) by driver doing exactly 30mph. Maybe where cars are parked limit should be 20 regardless of signs.

Re revenue: a new camera was placed in an apparently random (downhill ) spot locally, when limit was suddenly reduced from 40 to 30 with only the minimum statutory warning (ie small notice at start of small ads in local evening paper - honestly, that's all they have to do, and no requirement to put up proper big 30mph signs before activating camera). It generated squillions of pounds when first installed - some people were caught up to a dozen times in a few weeks because they turned on to main road out of side roads and no new 30mph signs had been erected there.

Now everybody knows it's there and it doesn't earn its keep it has been taken down!!!

That'll save lots of lives then

(see Chief Constable of Durham about revenue v road safety)

WendyWeber · 24/11/2007 22:32

I drive in 3rd gear now, in 30mph limits - which mostly keeps me legal, barring a sudden downhill slope - as long as I know it's a 30mph limit, but that's another thing:

in a "built-up area" (undefined), in the absence of any signs to the contrary the limit is 30. But there are many dual-carriageway stretches like that and a lot of them used to have limits of 40 or even 50. Those limits can be arbitrarily reduced and new speed limit signs do not have to be erected. It's not as cut-and-dried as all the saintly posters on this thread seem to think.

MrsDepp · 24/11/2007 23:38

hayCHingleBells....

just to play devil's advocate... why would you be overtaking (bike or whatever) coming up to a side road? Highway code, blah blah...

I have yet to see a good example of the situation DH is always telling me about, where "sometimes it's safer to speed"

I had the advantage (?) of learning to drive in Oxford town centre, where opportunities to go above even the heady speed of 20mph are few and far between, and acquired a weird sixth sense for when I'm doing over 30. Not that i still won't get nicked, as I now live in Birmingham, where the roads are assigned 30 or 40 at random, as far as I can see

Cam · 25/11/2007 09:27

Ah Mrs Depp, I too did a lot of driving practice in Oxford and am deffo brill at bicycle avoidance

(Also did a lot of bicycle riding practice there too!)

VictorianSqualor · 25/11/2007 10:16

MIL came round yesterday, BIL (19) has had a speeding ticket sent through, his car is registered in her name, and he is a named driver, so the ticket went to her.

She was saying she was going to say it was her driving because of his insurance!!!

DP and I had to practically scare her into the idea that she would go to prison because they would probably catch her to persuade her to let him take the rap himself, and it's only his first set of points.

I don't see why people are happy to take on the blame for someone elses crime, driving offences are crimes.

Would you say that it was you who robbed the local shop if your dp was going to go to prison for the stuff being found in your house???

Would you claim to have been the one driving in a car when the driver was drunk??

Where does taking the fall for someone else stop????

hayCHingleBells · 26/11/2007 08:10

MrsDepp
Ok, not a cyclist, a parked car then.
Unavoidable overtake.
The car pulling out of the side road, should be looking if its safe to pull out, but they dont always.

So you all have this sixth sense to know when your at 30mph. And i presume youd know in an instant that you were doing 31? 32? Rubbish - you cant tell without looking, sometimes in certain situations you cant take your eyes off the road to look at your speedo.

Thats what im trying to say! Even those of us who are maticulous with our speed can be caught for doing a very minor speeding offence - which is wrong and unfair!

Its the repeated offenders who drive constantly above the speed limit that should be getting caught - not the rest of us!

katwith3kittens · 26/11/2007 11:10

Completely agree with haychingle. Well said.

How many of you can put hand on left nork and say they never break the law by driving at 31 or heaven forbid 33 mph ? not me for one and I think I am a carefull driver.

I thought I had heard that some insurance companies were not setting too much store by points now as some 75% of the driving population have at least one set of points, presumably from very minor offenders (myself included )

It still makes me rant how I got thoses points, I've been driving carefully for 20 years, 15 K a year annual mileage, no accidents, and I'm following an old biddy at 35 mph long a 60 mph country road for miles as I didnt want to risk overtaking, then we get into a 30mph village and we slow down to 20 mph, they then turn left hurrah ... I accelerate up to 35, foot off straight away and back down to 30 (ish) as its a local village and what do you know ... 'snapped' by a mobile camera.

I felt like contesting, but tbh, couldnt be bothered with the faff. Anyway, rant over.... it was a few years ago now, but it still annoys me.

hayCHingleBells · 26/11/2007 11:13

God, the slow ones should also incurr points!

MascaraOHara · 26/11/2007 11:13

I've only read the OP and I know I'm a latecomer but I would do this for dp and I would expect him to do it for me (if I had a dp)

Tortington · 26/11/2007 11:18

i think you are being unreasonable.

yes he should drive more carefully - but i assume that he actually needs a car for work - or he would walk?public transport?

speed cameras ar designed to make money - not save lives - its bullshit media brainwashing tripe.

if councils actualyl wanted to save lives they would listen to communities who beg for speedcalming measures in accident hotspots to be told that they have to wait until somone has died by the highways agency - until they can fund anything.

btw your crb check has fuck all to do with anything " oh were you speeding madam - i am afraid you cant be a nurse!"

hayCHingleBells · 26/11/2007 11:19

Masacara
Would you do it if he repeatedly had got points for speeding or just as a one off?

Would it make any difference to you if he was 60 in a 40? Or if he was doing 33 in a 30?

Tortington · 26/11/2007 11:22

if i wanted my dh to still bring home an income i would do it

hayCHingleBells · 26/11/2007 11:24

needs must, i understand that.

But the system is wrong. Its not mostly about speeding, its about stopping distances, its about excessively slow driving. However of course, speeding through a 30 is not acceptable either.

VictorianSqualor · 26/11/2007 11:25

custardo, I think the point is that the OP's DH has already been caught speeding 3? times, so he is an habitual speeder, it isn't that he got caught out because he once drove a little over the limit.

WRT what haychingles said, the IMO, it is the peopel who are driving over the speed limit in the 30mph zones that are the worst, we've all seen the statistics and the adverts showing how much more damage those extra few miles can do if someone was hit by said speeder.

DP was caught doing 34mph in a 30mph zone, he went on the speeding awareness course, and he is way more aware of speeds he is doing in such areas now, I have to admit he still does go what I consider to be 'too fast' on the motorway, but people are less likely to get hurt.

McDreamy · 26/11/2007 11:26

I would do this for my DH yes, it's not right but I would do it

babieseverywhere · 26/11/2007 11:33

"next set of points", if your husband is stupid enough to plan to speed again, I would not even consider breaking the law to cover for him.

Even if you did, if he keeps speeding you'll both lose your licenses...sorry to say this but he sounds a right idiot.

Tortington · 26/11/2007 11:36

it takes 4 years for 3 points to come off you licence- therefore it doesn't make a person michael frickin schumacher if at any one point they have 9 points.

THelesbellsRINGOUTFORCHRISTMAS · 26/11/2007 11:41

I would do it for my dp. The household depends on him driving - driving is his work. sometimes i'm at work and the children need to be picked up or taken somewhere. We need him to be driving.

MascaraOHara · 26/11/2007 11:41

HayCh - yes,I would only do it to prevent loss of license actually.

VictorianSqualor · 26/11/2007 11:45

But he is anticipating his 'next' set of points rather than trying not to get any. Surely that in itself says something about the way he drives?

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