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Booing the German anthem

155 replies

Glovesick · 01/07/2021 11:30

Really? Absolutely grotesque behaviour.

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CopperBear · 01/07/2021 11:34

Not sure why it's deemed to be perfectly acceptable to boo every anthem until the English do it... I wouldn't boo anyone's anthem and I'm not personally a football fan - but it's very much accepted that football fans will boo during the anthem of the opposition, especially during a home match, especially if it's high stakes and especially if there's a historic rivalry. No one ever seems to complain until it's the English. Next up will be PP complaining about them cheering when a German girl was crying - which is, in reality, "England fans didn't cease cheering after their team won when an insensitive camera man put a German child crying on the big screen".

x2boys · 01/07/2021 11:44

Well the German fans didn't exactly cover themselves in glory when, they were Booing when England scored.

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 01/07/2021 11:46

It's rude to boo during a national anthem. No one should be doing it
Also rude to show children crying on TV imo.

looptheloopinahulahoop · 01/07/2021 11:47

It is horrible to boo another country's national anthem.

But it's also ridiculous that the ENGLAND team uses the BRITISH national anthem. I don't understand why none of the team has said anything about it. Completely inappropriate.

Floralnomad · 01/07/2021 11:49

@x2boys

Well the German fans didn't exactly cover themselves in glory when, they were Booing when England scored.
Not really the point though just means they are as bad . Everyone doing something doesn’t make it right
Youdiditanyway · 01/07/2021 11:51

Bad taste but I wouldn’t expect anything more from England fans.

SlipperyDippery · 01/07/2021 11:51

It isn’t just England that does it but I agree, it’s awful behaviour.

x2boys · 01/07/2021 11:52

@looptheloopinahulahoop

It is horrible to boo another country's national anthem.

But it's also ridiculous that the ENGLAND team uses the BRITISH national anthem. I don't understand why none of the team has said anything about it. Completely inappropriate.

I don't think England have their own anthem do they? I wish we did God save the Queen is so bloody boring imo
simbobs · 01/07/2021 11:52

I was appalled by it. England was the host nation, and it is completely unacceptable.

PixieKitten · 01/07/2021 11:52

@Youdiditanyway

Bad taste but I wouldn’t expect anything more from England fans.
This
Notstrongandstable · 01/07/2021 11:54

English football fans are an abomination..at least the ones who go to the matches are.
They are an embarrassment

Justanotherlurker · 01/07/2021 11:55

Bad taste but I wouldn’t expect anything more from England fans.

You have obviously never seen any other football match at all, all fans boo others national anthems, the Germans being among them.

Also German fans and media made a lot of jokes about the crying Brazilian boy after they won 7-1.

User135644 · 01/07/2021 11:55

@CopperBear

Not sure why it's deemed to be perfectly acceptable to boo every anthem until the English do it... I wouldn't boo anyone's anthem and I'm not personally a football fan - but it's very much accepted that football fans will boo during the anthem of the opposition, especially during a home match, especially if it's high stakes and especially if there's a historic rivalry. No one ever seems to complain until it's the English. Next up will be PP complaining about them cheering when a German girl was crying - which is, in reality, "England fans didn't cease cheering after their team won when an insensitive camera man put a German child crying on the big screen".
It's mostly only English that do this. Scotland boo GSTQ but that's due to the nature of the song (crushing Scots). They don't boo either anthems.

It's not nice. Germany you can at least understand it's a grudge match but football fans still hung up on the war they weren't alive for.

Willwebebuyingnumber11 · 01/07/2021 11:57

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

User135644 · 01/07/2021 11:57

@Youdiditanyway

Bad taste but I wouldn’t expect anything more from England fans.
It mostly is. It's only England fans that boo the German anthem.
SlipperyDippery · 01/07/2021 11:59

It's mostly only English that do this. Scotland boo GSTQ but that's due to the nature of the song (crushing Scots)

So it’s ok for the Scots to boo the English anthem but not ok for the English to boo other anthems.
Which lyrics are about crushing Scotland?

User135644 · 01/07/2021 11:59

@Justanotherlurker

Bad taste but I wouldn’t expect anything more from England fans.

You have obviously never seen any other football match at all, all fans boo others national anthems, the Germans being among them.

Also German fans and media made a lot of jokes about the crying Brazilian boy after they won 7-1.

German fans don't boo national anthems. It's mostly only England fans that do this.
Valeriekat · 01/07/2021 12:00

In the USA they boo their own anthem...bit of an eye opener

runwithme · 01/07/2021 12:01

@Notstrongandstable

English football fans are an abomination..at least the ones who go to the matches are. They are an embarrassment
I go to them. Not these ones, we went to the qualifiers. I'm certainly not an embarrassment. I wouldn't partake in any booing, nor would my family, who I was with.
User135644 · 01/07/2021 12:01

@SlipperyDippery

It's mostly only English that do this. Scotland boo GSTQ but that's due to the nature of the song (crushing Scots)

So it’s ok for the Scots to boo the English anthem but not ok for the English to boo other anthems.
Which lyrics are about crushing Scotland?

Look at the full lyrics of GSTQ.

If Scotland play England then it might well be tit for tat.

England boo every anthem though out of sheer disrespect and arrogance. The Brexit mentality.

ChainJane · 01/07/2021 12:02

I've heard God Save the Queen booed by Irish fans at events too.

It's not just England fans. Maybe only England fans who regularly boo Germany, but it's all down to history. English people remember the war, Irish people remember the Great Famine. Can't really blame the English for booing Germany based on events from 75 years ago when we do the same because of events 75 years before that!

Viviennemary · 01/07/2021 12:05

It's all part of the fun isn't it boo-ing the other team. Not that I'm a football fan myself.

ChainJane · 01/07/2021 12:06

Look at the full lyrics of GSTQ.

Look at the full lyrics of the German anthem. The full lyrics of GSTQ aren't sung, just as the "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" is not sung.

FuriousCheekyFucker · 01/07/2021 12:06

@SlipperyDippery

It's mostly only English that do this. Scotland boo GSTQ but that's due to the nature of the song (crushing Scots)

So it’s ok for the Scots to boo the English anthem but not ok for the English to boo other anthems.
Which lyrics are about crushing Scotland?

There's a myth that the Scots like to perpetuate that this verse is still sang:

Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
and like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God save the King.

It was - for a while - during the Jacobite rebellion, but ceased to be used even before the song became our official National Anthem. The other side of the coin that Scots neglect to mention is that there was a pro-Jacobite verse:

God bless the prince, I pray,
God bless the prince, I pray,
Charlie I mean;
That Scotland we may see
Freed from vile Presbyt'ry,
Both George and his Feckie,
Ever so, Amen.

It's a weak attempt to justify the Scots behaviour and vilify the English.

Bottom line, because the Brits are more alike than they wish to admit.

SlipperyDippery · 01/07/2021 12:06

Look at the full lyrics of GSTQ

Just did and I can’t see anything about crushing Scotland. I also don’t imagine the majority of football fans are bothered about the third verse of GSTQ, they just don’t like England.