40,000 Fans and No Masks

[DadAManger]

Watching the football. Yes, I like the football.

But WTF, no masks (literally not one mask) and hugging and kissing like it’s a San Francisco in 1980.

This pandemic is over then? My kids aren’t being sent home from school again, I can spend time sitting with my grandmother at home? I know I will be told ‘life has to go on as normal’. I think I have lost my mind - I just don’t understand anymore.

Yes it was as there were less people at previous games.

Do I need to type slower?

You could try it and then you might be able to come up with something worthwhile to better get whatever you’re trying to say across.

@toocold54

Yes it was as there were less people at previous games.

Do I need to type slower?

You could try it and then you might be able to come up with something worthwhile to better get whatever you’re trying to say across.

So that counts as a gradual re-opening then doesn't it?

When the numbers get bigger....

It's not that I don't want the large events to happen, but when you look at the crowds tonight and, yes, not just tonight - Royal Ascot and Wimbledon too - but tonight especially there wasn't a lot of social distancing, hugging, singing, shouting all in close proximity but then a friend last week wasn't allowed to see her father in hospital. Friend and father were double vaccinated. Father taken into hospital, he was confused and yet wasn't allowed one member of his family to visit.
Yes, I know it is indoors but still how can that not be allowed but all those crowds tonight.

I just think if the large events are going to happen and there isn't even follow up tests done then they need to drop the rest of the restrictions now.

What is the point of doing all that if they don't then require the people attending to take tests after the event. I thought the whole point was to see if there was a wider spread of the virus after the event too

Who says there are no tests afterwards? With the Reunion 5k you had to do 3 tests - 2 PCR and one LFT. LFT before you went, PCR before you went, and another PCR afterwards. So I didn't take part as I didn't want to do the tests.

@looptheloopinahulahoop
Who says there are no tests afterwards? With the Reunion 5k you had to do 3 tests - 2 PCR and one LFT. LFT before you went, PCR before you went, and another PCR afterwards. So I didn't take part as I didn't want to do the tests.

The Government guidelines for attendance to the Euros. No mention of any follow up tests. Maybe different for your event. However, for the first events only 15% of people returned both a before and after test.

@looptheloopinahulahoop

GingerAnd The Biscuits posted a link to the Euro guidelines earlier in the thread

@looptheloopinahulahoop

What is the point of doing all that if they don't then require the people attending to take tests after the event. I thought the whole point was to see if there was a wider spread of the virus after the event too

Who says there are no tests afterwards? With the Reunion 5k you had to do 3 tests - 2 PCR and one LFT. LFT before you went, PCR before you went, and another PCR afterwards. So I didn't take part as I didn't want to do the tests.

Nope - you had to have a negative LFT - PCR was optional. From Reunion 5k website: To aid research, we ask attendees take pre- and post-event home PCRs tests, carried out to inform the research

Won't someone think of the children non-football fans

You joke about it but the number of students off school due to testing positive or isolating is the highest it’s ever been. I know of schools and nurseries that have had to close.
Yes I want to go and watch a match in person but for me this is a bigger issue that needs to be sorted first. Why are these matches allowing more and more people yet loads of places are still closed or can only have a handful of people.
I wonder what the reason for this unfairness is

For Wimbledon:

Am I required to take a PCR test (a fee-based test sent to a lab)?
No. To attend The Championships you need to provide proof of both vaccinations (first and second dose) with the second dose administered at least 14 days before your visit; or a negative rapid lateral flow test taken within 48 hours of your visit (for those aged 11 and over); or, if resident in England, proof of natural immunity (positive PCR test within the last six months, after self-isolation has ended and up to 180 days after taking the test) demonstrated via NHS COVID Pass on the NHS App. If your child is aged under 11, evidence of COVID status is not required for entry.

No reference to post-attendance PCRs

Who cares about it anymore. Stop tying yourselves in knots over whether testing happening afterwards. Whole thing is now a farce esp after Hancock. Everything should be dropped and bsck to normal.

Its ludicrous to continue to fight to have masks and testing. Majority are vaccinated either at least once or twice.

Time for people to take personal accountability and make their own risk assessments

If your still worried then stay at home, limit your activities, wear masks, social distance all you like but if others don't want to they shouldn't have to.

It was said vaccination is way out of all these restrictions and my god the next few weeks cannot go quick enough

Instead of moaning about whybbig crowds aren't following the rules you should be lobbying for all rules to go.

Its not a race to the bottom in terms of wearing masks and lockdowns.

@Thiscantreallybehappening

It's not that I don't want the large events to happen, but when you look at the crowds tonight and, yes, not just tonight - Royal Ascot and Wimbledon too - but tonight especially there wasn't a lot of social distancing, hugging, singing, shouting all in close proximity but then a friend last week wasn't allowed to see her father in hospital. Friend and father were double vaccinated. Father taken into hospital, he was confused and yet wasn't allowed one member of his family to visit. Yes, I know it is indoors but still how can that not be allowed but all those crowds tonight.

I just think if the large events are going to happen and there isn't even follow up tests done then they need to drop the rest of the restrictions now.

This explains exactly what I feel very well (and more clearly than me). Thank you.

And Royal Ascot:

Do I need to take a covid test to attend?
It will be a condition of entry for all customers to provide evidence of a negative lateral flow test to gain entry to Ascot Racecourse on the day for which a ticket is held.

Each customer will also be asked to take two PCR tests to aid the programme's research. These tests will be sent to the home address provided to Ascot ahead of attendance. You will need to take one PCR test either the day before or on the morning of your attendance at the event, and one 5 days following your attendance.

For the test events, the PCR element is either not mentioned or couched in “voluntary” terms.

This comment is inhuman. It really is. No regard to children whatsoever. I please ask this be removed. it is disgraceful and disgusting for parents and kids.

I've reported it. Attending football games does not take precendence over kids welfare. Thanks.

Majority are vaccinated either at least once or twice.

There are 16 London boroughs where less than 40% of adults have had their second dose (vs over 60% nationally) and less than 60% have had their first dose (vs 84.5% nationally). The govt really needs to work out how to get those numbers up because while where I live is on a par with those national rates, if covid is able to circulate in densely populated, under-vaccinated London boroughs it seems likely we’ll see more variants that leave us back at square one. Although I am generally pretty fed up with restrictions now!

YABU, it is outdoors geez

But our kids can't go on their year 6 school trip. Even though they are already in a fucking bubble!

Large events like this are all providing data and evidence needed to support a full unlocking. So it's good that they're trying things. Personally I like seeing stuff like this!

Cracking match though! 🍾🥳🎉⚽️⚽️⚽️

There shouldn't be fans at Wembley.

The test events should have been proms and sports days. It's outrageous.

@AmIPeriOrAreYouJustAnnoying

But our kids can't go on their year 6 school trip. Even though they are already in a fucking bubble!

That seems to be down to the individual school. Lots of schools are still going on trips.

@User135644

There shouldn't be fans at Wembley.

The test events should have been proms and sports days. It's outrageous.

How would that work?

@User135644

There shouldn't be fans at Wembley.

The test events should have been proms and sports days. It's outrageous.

You missed out the Henley Regatta...

@toocold54

Blah blah blah. Absolutely brilliant atmosphere, so good to see the crowds back. Couldn’t care less what people like you think.

I think some people are missing the point of some posts.

It’s not the fact there are crowds and people want to keep everything locked down forever.
It’s the fact that there are so many other restrictions elsewhere - loads of events are still cancelled, most businesses are loosing loads of money due to social distancing rules, schools are wearing masks and have cancelled all trips and most normal sports days and their last days and proms are completely different than normal, half of my school is currently isolating and I know of 2 schools that have closed completely, only 16 people can attend a funeral and there’s no singing allowed, weddings also have a maximum guest allowance and hundreds of other things - but this football game can literally have thousands of people mixing which isn’t fair.
If you’re going to relax the rules for a football match then they need to relax the rules for other things too.

Why do you think you can only have 16 people at a funeral? What do you think the maximum attendance is at weddings?

Actually there are no limits on numbers for either, as long as social distancing is possible. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but it's incorrect.

As for sports days, there was a thread about this the other day. Some schools are having them, some aren't. There is no blanket ban on sports days. And proms are indoor events which are known to be more likely to cause spread., so not comparable to outdoor sports.

i really dont understand people quoting Hancock,
his exploits have made no difference to me, nor should they anyone else

@AbsolutelyPatsy

i really dont understand people quoting Hancock, his exploits have made no difference to me, nor should they anyone else

I don’t get that either. He broke the rules so we must too. Does that mean we all need to have an affair because he has?