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Matt Hancock affair (2)

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TheoMeo · 25/06/2021 19:22

Looks like we might need a new thread.

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sashagabadon · 26/06/2021 12:24

It would be pretty easy to put a camera in an office smoke alarm. Fire safety contractors wander round where I work regularly testing the alarms and changing something or other. I wouldn’t think to stop them.
Knowing Human nature, I can well imagine office staff opening Hancock’s office to let them in without being suspicious.
Not sure if security at DOH but bet contractors are in and out all the time. Pest controllers too wander everywhere with little suspicion, that sort of thing.
Reminds me a bit of the Sopranos episode where the FBI deliberately cocked up Anthony Sopranos TV reception then turned up to “ fix it”and set up cameras everywhere

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 26/06/2021 12:25

One of the very few times I would read The Sun (post third page!) but here is more material in May 2021 in both public office on the “job” and out and about “eating out to help out” during Covid restrictions of hands face s̷p̷a̷c̷e̷ arse. Not so much cameras everywhere but also in public in front of other dinners not particularly supporting Covid rules and expectations for all/some? Apparently all happily married with children.
Awaiting the juicy material before it is leaked to some 18+ hub!

www.thesun.co.uk/news/15397278/matt-hancock-gina-coladangelo-date/

LucindaT73 · 26/06/2021 12:36

The biggest issues are 1. that a government minister is rubbing his hands all over an employee’s bottom at work, and 2. breaking COVID guidance which risks discrediting control measures.

You have a very naive and myopic view of the world if you think hands on bottoms are so important. FGS don't get understand the film is a serious breach of security. That's why MI5 are going to investigate.

Yes, he broke the rules, in a very minor way with someone he works with, but so did Prof Fergusson (and he didn't work with his German girlfriend) and far from being discredited, now he's never off the news telling us his stats.

And for the past 18 months Mumsnet has been FULL of posters gleefully telling everyone how they are not abiding my any rules.

Talk about two faced.

lightand · 26/06/2021 12:38

@EddyF

All this ‘set up’ theories have made this thread such a bore to read. Pages and pages of people saying the same old bullshit. It’s not out of the realm of a man having an affair no matter how odd/unattractive you think he is.

Rather than discussing the serious matter of how she obtained her position etc, there just theories that this is a set up/doesn’t look like Matt…wtf. It’s fucking weird.

the social distancing, lack of, masks, etc, him being secretary of helath and all that, that doesnt bother you? hmm. You think he can carry on spouting that? Perhaps you dont do all that you should legally.
annabelindajane · 26/06/2021 12:40

Think it’s a bit boring , rent boys , cocaine and saucy underwear might justify all the shock horror reactions . 😂

Just feel sorry for the families and for the children’s sake the pictures of the clinch shouldn’t have been allowed . Very upsetting for them .

IAmDaveTheSerialShagger · 26/06/2021 12:41

@bollihigh

Susan Sarandon could play Martha Hancock in the movie version.
Yes and David Walliams would be epic as MH with Matt Lucas as BoJo!
Lampzade · 26/06/2021 12:44

@Roussette

'Matt Hancock looks like the type of man who cries after sex, in a sort of grateful way.'

Oh don't!
I had a boyfriend once, first time sex, afterwards he started sobbing. I thought it was the emotion of the moment. I was quite kind.
No.
He was crying about his ex and how wonderful it used to be
🤣

Ha ha
SofiaMichelle · 26/06/2021 12:45

@LucindaT73

That almost reads as if you're defending this fucking vile cretin?

Whataboutisms are not appropriate when this is the Secre-fucking-tary of State for fucking Health, during the biggest health crisis of modern times, giving it the 'one rule for you, another for us'.

And Ferguson was forced to step down, having been summarily slated by none other than Hancock himself.

Hancock said he was "speechless" at the revelations of what Ferguson had done and said it was "extraordinary". He also openly backed the police taking action if they thought it was warranted.

This is so fucking wrong.

Blossomtoes · 26/06/2021 12:47

You have a very naive and myopic view of the world if you think hands on bottoms are so important.

And you have a very naive and myopic view of the world if you think someone who will happily lie to and betray their wife will have any qualms about doing it to anyone else. The security question is an entirely separate issue.

Unsure33 · 26/06/2021 12:48

@Backhills

I agree with you .there are strict privacy rules with regards to filming like this .especially within government . I am not defending them but the security implications plus privacy law breaches ( that could apply to any of us at work ) are quite worrying .

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 26/06/2021 12:50

@IAmDaveTheSerialShagger
@bollihigh
Susan Sarandon could play Martha Hancock in the movie version.

Yes and David Walliams would be epic as MH with Matt Lucas as BoJo!
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Cunnings would be directing or script writer the 18+ version for after evening threshold or some other hub type websites with adult actors. It is just the usual office mates with benefits number think Oval Office and cigars etc etc as nothing new but for a little matter of a slight inconvenience with a once in a lifetime medical pandemic health emergency that is impacting lives and livelihoods not just a bunch of jokers and their mates in office on the “job” enriching themselves and taking the pi$$ while telling all it’s not supposed to be hands face s̷p̷a̷c̷e̷ arse and indeed getting other high level scientists to resign or sacked for also being in the sack with mates etc.

stobartstruck · 26/06/2021 12:52

@ItsSnowJokes

There is just something not quite right with the video. It's awkward as hell and just doesn't seem like a couple having a fling. I can't quite put my finger on why, but it just seems staged and weird. And like others have said he would surely know where the cctv cameras are. Its all very odd.

He's a massive twat, and his wife must be in bits, and personally I think he should be sacked, he won't be, but he should be.

They're just having a conversation in between kissing. Plus the angle of the camera.

Why are people insistent that this is set up. What's the game?

Topia · 26/06/2021 12:53

The body language in that video is odd though - particularly from her right at the end, when she rather formerly steps back and links her hands behind her. Having just been caught up in the throes of passion it seems out of sync with the situation.

I think he seemed quite natural. She didn’t. Weird.

Topia · 26/06/2021 12:56

On reflection perhaps it’s because she was worried about someone coming and adopted a more professional pose

Lampzade · 26/06/2021 12:58

@Threewheeler1

This country has been kettled into a very dark place by this government. Can't believe anyone can vote for them. Utterly self-serving, heartless twats. I don't think it's ever been so grim. Totally brazen lack of honesty morality but people don't seem to care!
Agree
Clavinova · 26/06/2021 13:00

He also openly backed the police taking action if they thought it was warranted.

The headlines on that are a bit misleading;

Asked if he thought Prof Ferguson should have been prosecuted for his apparent breach of lockdown rules, the health secretary added: "It's a matter for the police, as a government minister I'm not allowed to get involved in the operational decisions of police matters.

"But I think the social distancing rules are very important and people should follow them."

He added: "They'll take their decisions independently from ministers - that's quite right, it's always been like that.

"And that's why, even though I've got a clear answer to what I think, as a minister, the way we run the police is that they make decisions like this.

"So I give them their space to make that decision, but I think he took the right decision to resign."

ancientgran · 26/06/2021 13:00

@LucindaT73

The biggest issues are 1. that a government minister is rubbing his hands all over an employee’s bottom at work, and 2. breaking COVID guidance which risks discrediting control measures.

You have a very naive and myopic view of the world if you think hands on bottoms are so important. FGS don't get understand the film is a serious breach of security. That's why MI5 are going to investigate.

Yes, he broke the rules, in a very minor way with someone he works with, but so did Prof Fergusson (and he didn't work with his German girlfriend) and far from being discredited, now he's never off the news telling us his stats.

And for the past 18 months Mumsnet has been FULL of posters gleefully telling everyone how they are not abiding my any rules.

Talk about two faced.

The worst thing I did during lockdown was have the GC sitting in the back garden with me inside talking to them with the patio doors open. I felt very guilty about it. I don't think I'm two faced and I think he was closer than 2m.

Fergusson was also bad but he wasn't a married man, he wasn't doing it on time we are paying for and he didn't get his girlfriend a job again paid for by us.

ancientgran · 26/06/2021 13:02

I wonder if Rees Mogg still thinks he's a genius?

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 26/06/2021 13:05

@ Threewheeler1
“This country has been kettled into a very dark place by this government.
Can't believe anyone can vote for them. Utterly self-serving, heartless twats.
I don't think it's ever been so grim. Totally brazen lack of honesty morality but people don't seem to care!”

I suspect these trolling gaslighting shenanigans only serve to boost the core support of their hardline voters. My theory is the more they take the pi$$ to annoy the (non existent) political opposition and right thinking decent public the more these clowns are cheered and supported by their hard core fans. This voter demographic may indeed be from similar backgrounds and are practicing similar “blended” lifestyle choices with similar moral compass. Just my humble theory. As open to discussion as to behaviour analysis.

TheoMeo · 26/06/2021 13:07

The next by election is Batley and Spen 1st July. Kim Leadbetter, Jo Cox's sister, is standing for the Labour party - this constituency hasn't had an MP for years, - maybe something to do with the new boundaries - last MP was cons. I would imagine Labour will smash it.

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Rosehip10 · 26/06/2021 13:07

Oliver Bonas stores are full of overpriced shit.

Ijustknowitstimetogo · 26/06/2021 13:09

Yes, he broke the rules, in a very minor way with someone he works with,

The minister for health behaved in a grossly sexually inappropriate way at work. That is serious.

The security issue, if there is one, is separate.

Rosehip10 · 26/06/2021 13:11

@TheoMeo What are you on about? Batley and Spen is having a by election as the current LABOUR MP (Tracy Brabin, who replaced Jo Cox) has had to resign as she took up the mayoral position following the May local elections. It has been a Labour seat since 1997.

Boomisshiss · 26/06/2021 13:13

Has anyone seen the actual video of them kissing the Sun have it . I recommend not watching yuck his poor wife . You even see him having a quick readjust of himself to hide how excited he was his poor poor wife

TheoMeo · 26/06/2021 13:14

Sorry, out of date info online
members.parliament.uk/constituency/163/overview
Or I misunderstood it

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