Matt Hancock affair (2)

[TheoMeo]

Looks like we might need a new thread.

All this ‘set up’ theories have made this thread such a bore to read. Pages and pages of people saying the same old bullshit. It’s not out of the realm of a man having an affair no matter how odd/unattractive you think he is.

Rather than discussing the serious matter of how she obtained her position etc, there just theories that this is a set up/doesn’t look like Matt…wtf. It’s fucking weird.

I was wondering if the journalists could somehow make a stand. Like refusing to turn up next time he does a corona briefing. Apparently all of them were furious yesterday when at the lobby briefing they basically weren't told anything at all.

[quote bollihigh]Memo to ITV re-hire Piers Morgan your country needs you ! And Hancock needs to drop the ukulele it's not a good look for a serious politician.

[/quote] He's not a serious politician.

One thing i learnt on here a few months back.

Matt Hancock has his own App. its hilarious and not a parody

Right. So ' sources' are kept secret and we will never know who got hold of that camera footage. I understand why, but it doesn't answer the question as to why he would risk doing this knowing the offices do have cameras around?
It is in breach of data protection. I'm not up on that at all , but I thought only the police could access camera footage from a public building? Let alone then sell it on to the tabloids!
The 'source ' is clearly an employee there , a security man or woman ?
Could they be sued for breach of contract?

Susan Sarandon could play Martha Hancock in the movie version.

I bet she'd like to drive Matt and Gina off a bloody great cliff.

Martha, if you're reading I'll hold your coat.

@bollihigh

Susan Sarandon could play Martha Hancock in the movie version.

If she were 30 years younger than she is now…

@the80sweregreat

Right. So ' sources' are kept secret and we will never know who got hold of that camera footage. I understand why, but it doesn't answer the question as to why he would risk doing this knowing the offices do have cameras around? It is in breach of data protection. I'm not up on that at all , but I thought only the police could access camera footage from a public building? Let alone then sell it on to the tabloids! The 'source ' is clearly an employee there , a security man or woman ? Could they be sued for breach of contract?

Depends who leaked it. There’s an assumption it’s a lowly paid minion.

It may be someone very high up with a motive.

The sun must be pretty sure on the legalities before releasing

There is a really, really obvious answer as to why Hancock did this in view of a CCTV camera, backed up by years of evidence.

He is a fucking idiot. There isn't a conspiricy here. He's just a fucking moron.

Yes, the footage was taken on the 7th May.
It's taken a while to get to the front pages.
Lots of lawyers involved in the meantime.
Such a game it all is. The one doing the selling on must be laughing all the way to the bank ( or the nearest 'green light 'country on a little holiday )

He's been set up from high up.
He's the fall guy.
I'd have settled for just sacking the twillock weeks ago - if it wasn't for her husband, his wife and the kids - then I'd sit back with popcorn and watch his little world and sinews implode. He deserves nothing less. But it's the innocent people caught in the crossfire that I feel sorry for.

@Maggiesfarm

I've only just read about this. Is or was Matt Hancock having an affair or was it just a stupid kiss?

There are calls for him to resign but Boris has had affairs and nobody batted an eyelid.

As for breaking social distancing guidelines, the chances are they are both vaccinated.

But the rules, or laws?, are the same for vaccinated people.

@BiscoffAddict

I can’t be the only one who thinks his wife is more attractive?! She’s got gorgeous red hair and a lovely figure, this Gina woman looks ten years old than she actually is, is haggard looking, obviously a smoker and looks as though she could do with a good feed. Being too thin is massively aging.

Sometimes I really don’t understand men?

It's never about the OW being irresistibly alluring. Men just like having their egos stroked. And their dicks, but mostly their egos. Gina isn't special, the OW never is - it could have been anyone.

Security was never a strong point of this government, that means doing detail, which they don't do. For example, Mr Johnson's mobile phone number being publicly available long after he entered the cabinet and MI5 having to point this out.

I think it is an inside job as to how The Sun obtained the image. We can all speculate as to who (or who's 'friend') is behind this.

Given Johnson's proclivities he can't sack him for that.

What about the fact that a government minister (and another employee) has carried out a sex act at work?

How is that not gross misconduct?

jgw1
I am very pleased you have replied, because I have never before met anyone who has tried to defend the government on this, although you do seem to have mostly engaged in pointless whataboutery.

I could say that your post on schools and teaching unions is whataboutery on this thread as well.

My thoughts at the time were probably the same as Keir Starmer's (as per my previous post/link) - but we can't all be 'Captain Hindsight' and pretend we would have taken a different course of action. Greenwich parents had mixed views as far as I can see - many were unhappy with the council's decision:

"Ridiculous decision, parents cannot just decide they are not going to work with that notice!"

www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/18942560.covid-reaction-greenwich-schools-close-christmas/

One mother said: "It's 2.5 days, so I don't see what difference this is really going to make and I think the timing of it is really, really bad.

"I'm on maternity at the moment but if I was working, it's just too short notice to get any kind of childcare arrangements in place."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55299848

Do you work from home yourself?

I don't pay much attention to the teaching unions either.

Probably man to man Johnson and Hancock are high-fiving and swapping gory details "I didn't know you had it in you Matty boy - chip off the old block and all that. Now what am I to do? Carrie says I should sack you !"

@Ijustknowitstimetogo

Given Johnson's proclivities he can't sack him for that.

What about the fact that a government minister (and another employee) has carried out a sex act at work?

How is that not gross misconduct?

Oh dear god is their more footage of what they did next?!

I'd feel compelled to watch but am already repulsed. Surely they didn't then go an fuck on his desk under the CCTV? I'm that hideous red bunker? Bleurgh!

Ministers are not employees though they are ultimately answerable to the electorate on a rolling basis. His position is untenable in any rational universe which sadly we are not in.

Off topic but Keir is a disappointment generally to me too but the one thing I absolutely agreed with him was trying to keep the schools open at Christmas and January. I completely disagreed with his position last June where he sided with the teaching unions to keep them closed.

The biggest issue is not the kiss or the alleged affair, but the risk that someone has bugged the corridors of Westminster and breached security.

The biggest issues are 1. that a government minister is rubbing his hands all over an employee’s bottom at work, and 2. breaking COVID guidance which risks discrediting control measures.

Surely they didn't then go an fuck on his desk under the CCTV? I'm that hideous red bunker? Bleurgh!

Didn’t need to go that far to class it as sexual! Would you rub your hands all over an employee’s bum at work?!

Carrie Johnson, a woman who has the same morals as her husband, preaching to anyone about affairs or 'family values ' is to be laughed at quite frankly. Even if she is now respectfully married to him and taken on 'Catholic teachings ' ( when it suits her)
If her husband is asking her what to do about Matt Hancock , then we really are in trouble.
( as if it's all not sleazy and horrible enough as it is)

I couldn't care less about his affair (apart from it being a shitty thing to do to his family) but the double standards regarding covid rules take some swallowing.

If you haven't read Marina Hyde's take on it:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/25/matt-hancock-sex-cop-busted-clinch-health-secretary-hookups