Matt Hancock affair (2)

[TheoMeo]

Looks like we might need a new thread.

@TheoMeo

Apparently there are a lot of anti Covid restrictions marches in London this weekend - I suspect that these will be a bit livelier than normal after Hancock's behaviour.

Do you think he will attend?

I've given up on Times radio - they are just wheeling out Conservative after Conservative downplaying this all and telling us we are sleaze lovers - ignoring the corruption and rule breaking.

jgw1 Different standards maybe! Mine was on responsiveness to constituents and openness.

The MP for Shrewsbury sounds a right charmer!

Mine... he has no social media and a consituency address but no office so he can ignore anyone contacting him. Which he does.
His voting record is appalling (like voting against making homes fit for habitation even though he is a landlord himself). He spends a lot of time on the other side of the country at his farm, and not in his constituency, and so on, don't get me started!

I don’t think it’s right to start comparing the women’s looks - that’s totally unnecessary and sexist.
As for their actions - yes, call that out.
“I consider the matter closed” as Johnson said really pissed me off - how dare he ?! He considers the matter closed because he is a serial cheat and condones this behaviour.
The Tories, however, appear to be Teflon.

Yes on Boris. He cannot criticise MH's behaviour, his life is based on cheating on wives.

He can consider the matter closed all he likes, he doesn't get to decide.

He considered the Cummings matter closed and look how that came back to bite him on the arse.

I (for my sins) have actually been reasonably supportive of Matt Hancock in the past in so much as I think he's had an absolutely impossible job but I am so, so angry about this. It's not the affair, people have been having affairs since forever and will continue to do so. It's the hypocrisy and the corruption, the face I couldn't see a very close relative before they died due to obeying lockdown rules. I'm not surprised people are absolutely furious, I am too and he needs to go. I think he will, but in a few days.

@Roussette

What gets me. What REALLY gets me is Boris saying 'I consider the matter closed'

No, Boris. Sorry. You don't get to decide if the matter is closed or not.

I agree. He’s done it about other things and it’s such a level of arrogance to say “no, we’re not discussing this anymore, I have decided it’s all done and dusted”

@hamstersarse

The video 🤢 🤢

She doesn’t look like she’s into him at all. She’s literally backing off while he’s like a horny 15 year old at the school disco

Hope it’s not some elaborate set up

No one knows how it’s been leaked.

Are people watching all the CCTV in the building all the time, or was this a case of her saying “I’ve done it. I had sick in my mouth. See the video at 3.15 in x room”

Something off about her body language given they would typically be in the throes of passion cos affair

I thought exactly the same thing about her body language & him looking like a horny 15-year old!

@Roussette

He can consider the matter closed all he likes, he doesn’t get to decide.

Unfortunately that’s the problem though isn’t it? He does get to decide. He’s the PM.

[quote Frazzledazzles]@Regulus - I just said to DH that it looks like really bad acting and as if they knew if was being filmed. I think it is him though and can’t figure out why someone would set themselves up in that way [/quote]
Hancock just looks really awkward at the best of times, let alone with a woman.

From the angle of the camera it must be positioned, as others have suggested, in a smoke alarm or light fitting. Clearly a set up as otherwise he would know it was there and not choose the exact spot it was pointed at. Someone knew that he leaned on the door to prevent being surprised; I hope there is an investigation.

Can the newspaper be required to divulge their source?

Unfortunately that’s the problem though isn’t it? He does get to decide. He’s the PM

Yes and no.
It depends if the story runs and runs maybe.

Although it did with Cummings and he hung on. But then it came back to bite him on the arse...

@Pottedpalm

Can the newspaper be required to divulge their source?

The editor would sooner go to prison. It would be the end of anyone leaking information like this and have huge consequences for a free press.

I've seen the snogging video and photo. Did they have sex too on camera?

There's always a reason for the distraction...
Whilst you’ve been distracted by Hancock’s affair, PHE released a report revealing 62% of alleged Covid deaths are people who’ve been vaccinated
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/996740/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf

Does anyone else think that the lady in the video looks curvier than the depiction we’ve seen photos of in the newspaper or on the news?

The figures don’t match - it just looks strange.

[quote Topia]@Roussette

He can consider the matter closed all he likes, he doesn’t get to decide.

Unfortunately that’s the problem though isn’t it? He does get to decide. He’s the PM.[/quote]
It’s been a very effective way of handling the situations so far.

Absolute outrage
Grey rock, standard “move on” lines
Next scandal kicks off
And repeat.

Each single debacle should have been enough for resignations. But this pandemic has made them utterly Teflon.

[quote littlelove84]There's always a reason for the distraction...
Whilst you’ve been distracted by Hancock’s affair, PHE released a report revealing 62% of alleged Covid deaths are people who’ve been vaccinated
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/996740/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf[/quote]
The government loves a good scary stat to keep this charade going, I don't see why they'd cover it up. But also it's not like thousands are dying a day still and 62% translstes into huge numbers. Less people overall are dying due to the vaccination programme, the fact that vaccines aren't 100% effective (as they have never claimed to be) doesn't seem that big of news to cover up.

Hancock says he's sorry for breaking "guidelines" but according to the Times it was illegal to meet others inside from other households unless for work purposes. That was not work.

So he's broken the law!

Sack him.

@Roussette

Unfortunately that’s the problem though isn’t it? He does get to decide. He’s the PM

Yes and no.
It depends if the story runs and runs maybe.

Although it did with Cummings and he hung on. But then it came back to bite him on the arse...

He had to help Dominic Cummings cling on because he knew he's ruthless and had dirt on him.

With Hancock he won't want to sack a minister over a sex scandal given his own history. Even if it's about the rules, he didn't give a shit about them at the G7.

And still, people will vote Tory.

@CovidCorvid

Hancock says he's sorry for breaking "guidelines" but according to the Times it was illegal to meet others inside from other households unless for work purposes. That was not work.

So he's broken the law!

I'm not so sure on that one.

He and she were at work.

Legally, you'd have to define what was and wasn't 'at work'. So sitting having a socially-distanced coffee with a work colleague during a break would be deemed 'not at work' by your view of it.

@Benjispruce3

And still, people will vote Tory.

I'd say kissing a colleague is not as bad as having tea with Hamas which is what we'd have got with Corbyn.

People are very quick to forget the alternatives and history.

Paddy Ashdown with his pants down.
John Major and Currie
Tony Blair and his illegal war.