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In thinking being a SAHM is work?

710 replies

morepizza · 16/06/2021 17:19

Work is defined as:

noun
noun: work; plural noun: works; plural noun: the works
1 1. 
activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result.

I think this includes SAH parental duties. I know a lot of people don't agree with me. What else would it be called?

OP posts:
MrsWhites · 16/06/2021 19:37

@TeddingtonTrashbag

SAHP is doing the same ‘work’ the WOTH 0parents also do (after their paid work) unless they pay for a cleaner/gardener etc that most WOTH parents don’t. Nice luxury to have -except that you will pay for your long holiday when the breadwinner prefers his co-worker and you divorce.
Fuck me, there is judgemental and then there is this post!
IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 16/06/2021 19:37

A friend of mine has had to quit her job because they can't afford childcare for 2 children. Is that privileged

It’s a choice to have two and takes just a few minutes to work out if you can afford the expense or not. Not working is a choice they made so yes it’s a privilege I would say.

Blah1881 · 16/06/2021 19:38

It’s work. If you didn’t clean, look after the children, do school runs etc, you would have to work in order to pay someone to do that work. It’s work.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 16/06/2021 19:39

@Blah1881

It’s work. If you didn’t clean, look after the children, do school runs etc, you would have to work in order to pay someone to do that work. It’s work.
I work and I don't pay anyone to clean or do school runs.
IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 16/06/2021 19:40

@Blah1881

It’s work. If you didn’t clean, look after the children, do school runs etc, you would have to work in order to pay someone to do that work. It’s work.
I’ve missed thar memo, all these years I’ve done the school run, my own cleaning, cooking, parenting etc.
CheeseIsATypeOfMeat · 16/06/2021 19:41

@switswoo81

Fair play to you. I earn 78000 euros a year and work term time only. Good times all round👍
Sounds bloody brilliant. Smile
morepizza · 16/06/2021 19:42

@TeddingtonTrashbag

SAHP is doing the same ‘work’ the WOTH 0parents also do (after their paid work) unless they pay for a cleaner/gardener etc that most WOTH parents don’t. Nice luxury to have -except that you will pay for your long holiday when the breadwinner prefers his co-worker and you divorce.
Jesus! 'Long holiday'

Fuuuuck me

OP posts:
Empanadas · 16/06/2021 19:43

“you will pay for your long holiday when the breadwinner prefers his co-worker and you divorce.”

Yes! Bingo!

morepizza · 16/06/2021 19:43

@Empanadas

“you will pay for your long holiday when the breadwinner prefers his co-worker and you divorce.”

Yes! Bingo!

Spot on
OP posts:
XioXio · 16/06/2021 19:43

@Shirleyphallus

It’s work but it isn’t a job or a career. It’s also a real luxury to be able to dick around from home looking after children than the mental graft of a proper job
That's a bit obnoxious
Empanadas · 16/06/2021 19:45

“you have utterly ruined your independence, sense of self, future career and earnings etc”

Bingo x 3! Smile On the way to full house already....

jamsandwich1 · 16/06/2021 19:45

Omg it’s the hardest job I’ve had. I’m on mat leave with my second and 2 under 2 has not been a walk in the park. It sounds awful but I’m looking forward to going back to work for a break from it. It’s 24/7, relentless and exhausting.

AnonAnom940 · 16/06/2021 19:46

@MaMelon

What is the work part? I’m a parent but I work outside the home - am I working because I’m a parent even when I’m not at home?
Who looks after your children while you're at work? You're outsourcing the main work that a sahp does to enable you to have a job(work).
FlowerPower3110 · 16/06/2021 19:46

@TeddingtonTrashbag

SAHP is doing the same ‘work’ the WOTH 0parents also do (after their paid work) unless they pay for a cleaner/gardener etc that most WOTH parents don’t. Nice luxury to have -except that you will pay for your long holiday when the breadwinner prefers his co-worker and you divorce.
And the award for most judgemental post goes to...
CheeseIsATypeOfMeat · 16/06/2021 19:50

“you will pay for your long holiday when the breadwinner prefers his co-worker and you divorce.”

But I'm far more handsome than the sweaty, hairy builders he works with! Aren't I? 😬 SHIT! I'd never thought about the fact that DH might start shagging his Co workers. Do you think they do it in their vans? Hide behind the cement mixer?

I think I'll fight for his tools in the divorce, that'll learn him.

Kanitawa · 16/06/2021 19:53

Being a SAHM is much harder than going to work in a job! In a job you get a peaceful commute to think and listen to music. You drink multiple cups of coffee while they’re still hot and eat your lunch uninterrupted. You don’t get climbed on or clawed at. You get to do intellectually stimulating tasks which further your career ambitions and progress your life goals, which is not only rewarding but also engaging so you’re not bored. You have a reason to dress nicely and your appearance is valued. You talk to other adults about work and occasionally get to make small talk and crack jokes. Compare this to being a SAHM who’s stuck at home alone all day, bored and not progressing in life.

Crowsaregreat · 16/06/2021 19:56

There was a campaign called Wages for Housework that called for homeworkers to be paid. www.independent.co.uk/voices/international-womens-day-wages-housework-care-selma-james-a9385351.html

Being a SAHM is not employment but it's work, the only thing is that the beneficiary is kind of the entire future of society. You're being economically productive because the economy would collapse without new workers.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 16/06/2021 19:56

@Kanitawa

Being a SAHM is much harder than going to work in a job! In a job you get a peaceful commute to think and listen to music. You drink multiple cups of coffee while they’re still hot and eat your lunch uninterrupted. You don’t get climbed on or clawed at. You get to do intellectually stimulating tasks which further your career ambitions and progress your life goals, which is not only rewarding but also engaging so you’re not bored. You have a reason to dress nicely and your appearance is valued. You talk to other adults about work and occasionally get to make small talk and crack jokes. Compare this to being a SAHM who’s stuck at home alone all day, bored and not progressing in life.
I've been both a SAHP and a working parent and I find being a working parent much harder. Not everyone progresses in careers either, loads of people work menial minimum wage jobs and always will do.
CheeseIsATypeOfMeat · 16/06/2021 19:56

@Kanitawa

Being a SAHM is much harder than going to work in a job! In a job you get a peaceful commute to think and listen to music. You drink multiple cups of coffee while they’re still hot and eat your lunch uninterrupted. You don’t get climbed on or clawed at. You get to do intellectually stimulating tasks which further your career ambitions and progress your life goals, which is not only rewarding but also engaging so you’re not bored. You have a reason to dress nicely and your appearance is valued. You talk to other adults about work and occasionally get to make small talk and crack jokes. Compare this to being a SAHM who’s stuck at home alone all day, bored and not progressing in life.
I don't want a bun fight. But just to say that I've developed more as a person in the 9 years I've been at home then I ever did in the work place! Ive actually had time to reflect and grow as a person. And I've had the mental capacity to say 'yes this is who I want to be'! It's been a real refreshing thing for me. Its not all bordem and sloppy brains! I promise! Smile
Howshouldibehave · 16/06/2021 19:57

@Kanitawa

Being a SAHM is much harder than going to work in a job! In a job you get a peaceful commute to think and listen to music. You drink multiple cups of coffee while they’re still hot and eat your lunch uninterrupted. You don’t get climbed on or clawed at. You get to do intellectually stimulating tasks which further your career ambitions and progress your life goals, which is not only rewarding but also engaging so you’re not bored. You have a reason to dress nicely and your appearance is valued. You talk to other adults about work and occasionally get to make small talk and crack jokes. Compare this to being a SAHM who’s stuck at home alone all day, bored and not progressing in life.
Many of those working ‘perks’ that you’ve listed simply don’t apply in many jobs!
MrsWhites · 16/06/2021 19:57

@CheeseIsATypeOfMeat

“you will pay for your long holiday when the breadwinner prefers his co-worker and you divorce.”

But I'm far more handsome than the sweaty, hairy builders he works with! Aren't I? 😬 SHIT! I'd never thought about the fact that DH might start shagging his Co workers. Do you think they do it in their vans? Hide behind the cement mixer?

I think I'll fight for his tools in the divorce, that'll learn him.

Don’t be silly, he’ll cheat with the sahm who is having a ‘long holiday’ and having an extension built funded by her husband who is having an affair with his (employed and therefore much better than his wife) colleague whilst his wife is ‘dicking around’ with the builder!
Beannag · 16/06/2021 20:00

If you're happy in your choice then why do you care? I would hate to be a SAHM, but I don't think anyone's value as a parent or society is defined whether they work or not, and up to families on what works best for them. The pathetic digs on here about others raising their kids or whatever don't bother me, as I know my child is happy and thriving, and I love working. No one has to justify themselves.

Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 16/06/2021 20:01

I'm incredulous at all these working parents that just leave their babies at home alone while they go off to work. Do any of them survive?

Sceptre86 · 16/06/2021 20:02

These kind of posts always end up one way. Sahm will be on the defensive needing to validate their choices as will the working mothers. I do what is best for my family, no doubt you do what is the best for yours.

I think op has felt the need to post this as they felt judged or made to feel like their decision to be a sahm was looked on poorly on the other thread a woman started about her dd wanting to be a sahm. You really don't have to justify being a sahm, if it works for you and your family that is good enough x

CheeseIsATypeOfMeat · 16/06/2021 20:02

Don’t be silly, he’ll cheat with the sahm who is having a ‘long holiday’ and having an extension built funded by her husband who is having an affair with his (employed and therefore much better than his wife) colleague whilst his wife is ‘dicking around’ with the builder!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GET YER ANDS OFF MAR MAAAANNN