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The TV channels should stop filming football match now. This is wrong

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Wishitsnows · 12/06/2021 17:54

Why can't the TV channels stop filming while a player is being resuscitated rather than commenting on it. I've switched off. Hope they stop soon

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mollypuss1 · 12/06/2021 19:37

@rugratmum there is a hell of a difference between wanting the BBC to not show pictures of a man receiving CPR live on television and saying no one should discuss the incident. Do you never discuss the news? There are thousands upon thousands of horrific things that happen in the world that we discuss daily, doesn’t mean they should all be shown live for entertainment.

mollypuss1 · 12/06/2021 19:39

@MorganKitten

Restarted the game now, the BBC have confirmed the stream is UEFA so they changed the programming as soon as they could.

With players around him and the screens you didn’t seem anything.

In a way it shows that people come together to support someone hurt. Including the fans.

They showed him receiving CPR and a defibrillator being used.
Viggohytten · 12/06/2021 19:40

[quote mollypuss1]@rugratmum there is a hell of a difference between wanting the BBC to not show pictures of a man receiving CPR live on television and saying no one should discuss the incident. Do you never discuss the news? There are thousands upon thousands of horrific things that happen in the world that we discuss daily, doesn’t mean they should all be shown live for entertainment.[/quote]
Well quite.

The distress at streaming pictures of a man receiving life saving treatment vs video upon video of those suffering in war zones etc.

RugratMum · 12/06/2021 19:42

[quote mollypuss1]@rugratmum there is a hell of a difference between wanting the BBC to not show pictures of a man receiving CPR live on television and saying no one should discuss the incident. Do you never discuss the news? There are thousands upon thousands of horrific things that happen in the world that we discuss daily, doesn’t mean they should all be shown live for entertainment.[/quote]
I think if you're concerned for someone's privacy when undergoing medical treatment, you don't then go and discuss that medical treatment on a public forum.

I think people can tut all they like over the culture of celebrity and the harm the media wreak on people's lives, but ultimately if there wasn't an appetite for this stuff, the media wouldn't report it and the cameras wouldn't film it. It will be in the newspapers tomorrow, yes, because people will want to read about it, for the same reason people want to discuss it on here. Each to their own, but if you see something like that on TV and immediately go online to discuss it, you're part of the problem.

mollypuss1 · 12/06/2021 19:43

@Viggohytten buy at the time it was being broadcast live no one knew if he was going to survive.... but you’re right, because we show edited pre recorded footage of suffering in war zones we should be fine with watching coverage of a man potentially die live on television. Excellent logic that.

mollypuss1 · 12/06/2021 19:46

@rugratmum if watching a horrific incident unfold on television and want to discuss the inappropriate coverage of it because it was deeply upsetting makes me ‘part of the problem’ then I’m happy to be that.

Viggohytten · 12/06/2021 19:47

[quote mollypuss1]@Viggohytten buy at the time it was being broadcast live no one knew if he was going to survive.... but you’re right, because we show edited pre recorded footage of suffering in war zones we should be fine with watching coverage of a man potentially die live on television. Excellent logic that.[/quote]
There have been deaths live on news TV.

Funny the double standards. I can’t get myself worked up by the TV coverage. I have a remote control and an off switch in my TV. I chose not to use them.

MintyCedric · 12/06/2021 19:49

Assuming this is Christian Erikkson it's just been reported he's stable and conscious in hospital.

mollypuss1 · 12/06/2021 19:50

@viggohytten I cannot understand your logic. There have been deaths on live TV before therefore showing this potential death was ok? There have been murders before, does that mean the next murder is ok?

Viggohytten · 12/06/2021 19:53

[quote mollypuss1]@viggohytten I cannot understand your logic. There have been deaths on live TV before therefore showing this potential death was ok? There have been murders before, does that mean the next murder is ok?[/quote]
Talk about a leap of logic.

I’m saying why froth about this and not about other news coverage?

JediGnot · 12/06/2021 19:58

I have to say that I'm astonished at the accusations of "gossip" and sorry for being petty, but all the "stop filming" is nonsense too... the camera operators job is to film, there are others in the studio whose job it is to cut away.

I didn't see it all, but it sound like everyone concerned has performed well (ref, other players, fans, medics) - the only ones who could be criticized are in studios choosing the wrong cameras or not switching off the live feed at all.

It sounds likely that the outcome will be fairly good - get well soon mr Erikson.

mollypuss1 · 12/06/2021 20:01

@Viggohytten I’m not frothing about the news coverage, I expect there to be news coverage. This wasn’t news coverage. This was a live broadcast of a man receiving CPR who was potentially going to die. The cameras did not need to show this. As I said previously, I remember watching Muamba when he collapsed on the pitch and as soon as it became evident he was very seriously ill the camera never showed him receiving treatment and focussed on images of the fans etc instead. I would be equally horrified about any broadcast which showed a person potentially dying live on television when they had the option to broadcast a different shot, it’s not like there’s only one camera at a football match!

fashionablefennel · 12/06/2021 20:42

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Tossblanket · 12/06/2021 20:46

Why can't you censor what you watch?

Quite simple to turn over or off.

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Nutrafin · 12/06/2021 20:54

@fashionablefennel

People were watching a football match when a man (in whom many are invested) collapsed and seemingly almost died.

Calling people's reactions fake, gossip and drama hungry is disgusting.

Fuck off.

bitheby · 12/06/2021 20:56

Potentially we were watching a man dying while his wife watched on in tears. That should not have been shown on live TV. It was obvious that they were doing CPR and using the defibrillator. As soon as the BBC realised that, they should have cut to the studio.

It's not gossip to process feelings collectively after witnessing something traumatic. It's human and it's helpful for healing.

TruffleShuffles · 12/06/2021 20:57

There was absolutely no need to show the aftermath of Eriksen’s collapse. There is no need for the public to potentially watch a man die and his hysterical wife watch it, it was an appalling decision by the BBC to continue to show the stream and even Ian Wright a BBC pundit condemned them. I’m a big F1 fan and they always immediately cut away from big incidents and won’t show any replay or live coverage of the incident until it’s completely clear that the driver is fine, this should have been the case today.

APheasantPluckersSon · 12/06/2021 20:57

Did they zoom in on the wife on British telly? That’s pretty disrespectful if so.

We were watching it in Denmark and once it was clear how serious it was, the cameras focused on fans around the stadium and the zoomed out to aerial footage from helicopter of the surrounding area (you couldn’t see what was going on).

MoiraNotRuby · 12/06/2021 20:58

People have posted saying this has brought back traumatic memories for them, and you describe this as fake concern. Try having some empathy. (Or if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.) This is a site people turn to for support.

bitheby · 12/06/2021 20:59

@APheasantPluckersSon

Did they zoom in on the wife on British telly? That’s pretty disrespectful if so.

We were watching it in Denmark and once it was clear how serious it was, the cameras focused on fans around the stadium and the zoomed out to aerial footage from helicopter of the surrounding area (you couldn’t see what was going on).

Yes and Martin Keown said something like, oh god, is that his wife. I don't blame him. Everyone was in a really difficult situation and didn't know how to react but that's when you need a good director to take charge and do the decent thing.

Theluggage15 · 12/06/2021 21:00

Fashionable, your point of view is weird, it was a football match, lots of youngsters would have been watching as well and seeing a young man being given cpr in close up was horrific. Calling it fake concern? Wtf is wrong with you? You don’t even know who he is but seem to feel the need to bitch on her about other people’s reaction. Weird.

APheasantPluckersSon · 12/06/2021 21:01

Oh wow, that’s a bit shocking.

The Danish commentators said that she had arrived but that was it. We didn’t see her and they say anything further (rightly so!)

APheasantPluckersSon · 12/06/2021 21:01

*didn’t say anything further

Nutrafin · 12/06/2021 21:04

Presumably, had @fashionablefennel seen the collapse, the urgent treatment and tearful friends and family, she'd have just been sat there thinking "well I'm not concerned if he lives or dies" before swiftly moving on to troll discussions about the incident.

Sad that some people are so devoid of empathy.

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