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DP called me a harridan yesterday - how to react?

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giletrouge · 11/06/2021 11:05

My partner called me a harridan yesterday. I’m really upset but haven’t said anything because I wanted to think it through. This is what – from my point of view – happened. He’s WFH, I’m retired but do a lot of writing and other stuff so consider this also to be ‘work’ of some kind (personal work) We’re both beyond retirement age. Just giving you context and explaining that we’re both at home all the time.

So he’s at his desk and I go upstairs (he works on a landing) just sorting out washing, and he says he can’t find the belt from one of his dressing gowns. I find it – immediately and exactly where I expected it to be, with the dressing gowns on the back of the door – so I go and give it to him, make a very mild sarcastic comment (something like, well there it was, with the dressing gown!) and as I walk away he says something that includes him calling me a harridan. I carried on doing what I was doing as it sunk in.

I’ve got no idea what he’s even referring to. He’s not stupid and I do talk a lot about feminism, so he can’t possibly not know that the word harridan would be received by me as a ghastly misogynistic insult. Or can he? Is it just his way of saying I’m a bit grumpy?

Should I let it go or say something? I feel really, really upset. He’s usually a very good man but I feel like I’ve been having these kind of conversations for fifty years now and I’m so tired. I can barely speak to him today because I feel like I’ll either cry or blow up. Help!

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omgthepain · 11/06/2021 11:06

Harridan????
What does that even mean???

Shoxfordian · 11/06/2021 11:07

Is he often disrespectful like that?

Rubytinsleslippers · 11/06/2021 11:08

Bossy old woman.

ApolloandDaphne · 11/06/2021 11:08

He called OP a bossy, old woman basically.

OP - was he being funny and flippant or was he cross? I would probably be amused if my DH called me a harridan because i suspect sometimes I can be!

giletrouge · 11/06/2021 11:10

@Shoxfordian

Is he often disrespectful like that?
No, he really isn't.
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giletrouge · 11/06/2021 11:11

@ApolloandDaphne

He called OP a bossy, old woman basically.

OP - was he being funny and flippant or was he cross? I would probably be amused if my DH called me a harridan because i suspect sometimes I can be!

See it didn't feel like either. What it felt like was that he was letting something slip that he really thinks. I could be wrong.
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Sparklfairy · 11/06/2021 11:11

Hes deliberately chosen a misogynistic word to get a rise out of you. I would probably pretend I hadn't heard rather than play into the stereotype by blowing up at him. Its not great though.

ElizabethTudor · 11/06/2021 11:11

I wouldn’t have gone to look for his dressing gown belt in the first place. Assuming he has working legs he could’ve gone and looked himself. Then you find it for him, make a mildy sarky remark about being where it was likely to be and he called you a harridan. Yeah, I’d be saying something. YANBU for being a bit peeved.

Lollypop701 · 11/06/2021 11:12

Unpleasant and aggressive… usually aimed at an older woman. It’s spiteful but depends on how you are together on a general basis. We all get on each other’s nerves at times, and say stupid things, was it a one off or is this part of a larger issue?

Luckyelephant1 · 11/06/2021 11:12

Completely depends on how it was said and what your relationship is normally like surely? My DH and I quite often call each other mildly insulting names but all in good jest.

LeafBeetle · 11/06/2021 11:13

It's not a kind thing to say, but I think he might genuinely not have realised how much it would offend you.

Ponoka7 · 11/06/2021 11:15

I personally can't stand sarcasm. I just don't see the need. Don't look for things for him, if it bothers you. It can be frustrating, I used to say to one of my DD'S 'have you looked properly or man looked' which is sexist, but true. He's working, you have hobbies. It isn't obligatory that you help him, but you don't wfh. I'd judge him on his actions, is he as equally helpful to you?

Keepyourdistance000 · 11/06/2021 11:17

Better than being called a gobshite :(

Ponoka7 · 11/06/2021 11:17

"What it felt like was that he was letting something slip that he really thinks."

How often do you use sarcasm? I know people who think that they are so clever with their's, but it's draining to other people.

SamMil · 11/06/2021 11:17

Could you talk to him and explain that it upset you? Then you can find out whether he actually meant it to be hurtful, or if it was an ill-judged joke?

Ponoka7 · 11/06/2021 11:18

@Keepyourdistance000, it depends on if gobshite is used affectionately. We're in Liverpool, so it is used in many ways.

giletrouge · 11/06/2021 11:21

@LeafBeetle

It's not a kind thing to say, but I think he might genuinely not have realised how much it would offend you.
This is my best hope. Which means my reaction is to do with a long history of feeling disrespected by men - other men, not him. But I'm surprised he lacks the awareness of this word and I'm left with - what's going on for him under the surface that he's not saying?
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giletrouge · 11/06/2021 11:23

@SamMil

Could you talk to him and explain that it upset you? Then you can find out whether he actually meant it to be hurtful, or if it was an ill-judged joke?
Yes I'm hoping to do that when I feel less upset. I'm so very stirred up by it at the moment I want to feel clearer first.
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giletrouge · 11/06/2021 11:25

@Ponoka7

"What it felt like was that he was letting something slip that he really thinks."

How often do you use sarcasm? I know people who think that they are so clever with their's, but it's draining to other people.

Thanks I think this is what I need to consider. I may be leaking a lot of old rage that is not directed at him but he's experiencing it as directed at him. That's really helpful. I still think harridan is a mighty strong response, but maybe he's not aware of how strong a word it is.
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FillerAngel · 11/06/2021 11:28

If I was irritated already, being called a harridan would make me laugh. If he’s not usually disrespectful, it’s quite a funny thing to mutter under your breath. Being called a cunt would not make me laugh.

Palavah · 11/06/2021 11:31

He’s usually a very good man but I feel like I’ve been having these kind of conversations for fifty years now and I’m so tired do you mean having these conversations with him?

giletrouge · 11/06/2021 11:33

@Palavah

He’s usually a very good man but I feel like I’ve been having these kind of conversations for fifty years now and I’m so tired do you mean having these conversations with him?
No sorry just with men generally. We've been together fourteen years.
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Myusernameisnotmyusernameno · 11/06/2021 11:35

I used to go out with a guy who called his mum that as a joke and she always used to shrug it off. I would have told him to F off and look for it himself in future and would've left it there

Ellpellwood · 11/06/2021 11:35

If you're often sarcastic he may have got to the end of his tether and actually fully thought that you are one for a few moments. It doesn't mean that he's quietly seething away on a day-to-day basis.

Most of the time I get on really well with my mum but she's quite a worrier and occasionally snap and tell her she's "being ridiculous". I don't think that of her all the time!

sweeneytoddsrazor · 11/06/2021 11:35

As insults go its fairly mild. I read your OP as him saying something along the lines of have you se

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