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To think this is why people’s ideas of portion sizes is messed up.

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Meruem · 03/06/2021 20:30

Watch any diet/healthy eating show and they talk a lot about portion size. I had an M&S butter chicken curry tonight. It costs £4 and comes in what people would commonly believe is a single potion size. I do actually only eat half at a time, mainly because I have it with naan bread, but can easily see why someone would eat one on its own. Yet look on the back and it says, in small print, “portions 2”.

DS has been eating a lot of tinned soup lately rather than more calorific lunches as he is trying to lose weight. But again look on the back and 1 tin is apparently 2 portions. So why don’t they sell it in half tin sizes? You get half tins of beans, spaghetti etc so why not soup.

Many, many other foods are sold in portions of 2, sometimes even 3 or 4. But it’s not clear unless you go looking for it.

If we want to tackle the obesity crisis then why doesn’t it say in big letters on the front “x amount of portions” rather than bury it in small print on the back? Yes you could argue that people should look and inform themselves but realistically, until a person is already overweight, most won’t bother.

While I don’t disagree that people need to take personal responsibility I do think that the way things are packaged and sold has had an influence and that highlighting to people what a single portion is could go some way to making a difference.

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Ugzbugz · 04/06/2021 08:14

There are the small tins of soups in all supermarkets. Heinz and slimming world do them.

People need to take responsibility. Even the government have told us to wash our hands its just embarrassing.

If a curry has 50grams of fat in you are going to get fat.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 04/06/2021 08:19

@Serin

I've been given my Grandmothers dining service, the dinner plates are not much bigger than my side plates, I think that is where many people are going wrong.
I saw some nice dinner plates in Tesco. They had sides about an inch high to keep pints of gravy from slopping off the plate.

misses point entirely

Undertheoldlindentree · 04/06/2021 08:22

Thanks Meruem, sounds delicious now you've explained, but I'm going to heed your warning and not risk trying it..... in case I never stop!Smile

GettingAwayWithIt · 04/06/2021 08:29

Too many people have an unhealthy relationship with food.

People treat themselves with food. “I’ve had a bad day / good day / promotion etc - I’ll have a takeaway”

I work with women who are CONSTANTLY on a ‘diet’ - yet in all the years I’ve been there they’ve never actually lost weight. They can talk about food all day and what they have or haven’t eaten but they never lose more than a few pounds and actually keep it off Obsessed with what others are eating for lunch, shamefully whisper that they made their slimming world recipe for dinner last night then got a takeaway at 9pm as they were still hungry.

Some people are the other extreme- won’t eat anything they class as bad, have set routines around food, obsessed with counting macros. Exercising obsessively, not because they want to, but because it keeps their weight down.

When I grew up money was tight. We had to clear our plates and if we didn’t we ate it at the next meal, regardless if it was something we actually liked eating. I remember sitting and chewing on a piece of dry, rubbery piece of steak for an hour after my family had left the table at around six year old. As an adult I didn’t eat steak until I was mid-20s as that’s how I remembered it. Now our family is better off and whenever I go to my parents I am almost force fed to the point of discomfort and I have to continually refuse biscuits, sweets, cakes etc when I am full.

MistySkiesAfterRain · 04/06/2021 08:31

If you look at the fat and calorie content of some of the ready meals - incl. charlie bigham in waitrose and other higher end brands - its shocking. Healthier options is what we need.

Nietzschethehiker · 04/06/2021 08:34

I do actually agree the concept of portion sizes is confusing and does definitely lead people to eat more and I am the furthest thing in earth to a competitive underwater. I'm Keto and have been for nearly three years so I happily pour double cream into my coffee after losing 8 stone....I think I make judgy people faint.

I went keto both to lose weight and because my health was on the floor. I had a variety of conditions that were most definitely going to kill me before I had the chance to be a MN batshit MIL to my DC spouses and my blood tests looked like a warning promotion used in clinical training. Thank goodness now the blood tests have normal range repeated through them....never realised how grateful I would be to be called average !

Because I went Keto it meant I measured the stuff I ate and I admit it really opened my eyes to what were healthy portions. I genuinely would have considered 2 chicken breasts a meal (and accompaniment obviously) a healthy meal but that's a huge amount of protein.

Believe me when I say if I could get away with it I would eat Mcdonalds and KFC daily with a side of pizza and two fingers up to the world but I can't on the grounds of well death. So I am not judgy about food but I will say the portion size was a huge eye opener about what had become accepted as a single portion size. Before switching lifestyles I was eating 3 times that and I guarantee noone would have sat next to me thinking I was eating a lot.

It's definitely a surprise I think to most people and companies are sneaky about it (not to mention how much sugar is in everything!!!!)

Grellbunt · 04/06/2021 08:36

@GettingAwayWithIt

Too many people have an unhealthy relationship with food.

People treat themselves with food. “I’ve had a bad day / good day / promotion etc - I’ll have a takeaway”

I work with women who are CONSTANTLY on a ‘diet’ - yet in all the years I’ve been there they’ve never actually lost weight. They can talk about food all day and what they have or haven’t eaten but they never lose more than a few pounds and actually keep it off Obsessed with what others are eating for lunch, shamefully whisper that they made their slimming world recipe for dinner last night then got a takeaway at 9pm as they were still hungry.

Some people are the other extreme- won’t eat anything they class as bad, have set routines around food, obsessed with counting macros. Exercising obsessively, not because they want to, but because it keeps their weight down.

When I grew up money was tight. We had to clear our plates and if we didn’t we ate it at the next meal, regardless if it was something we actually liked eating. I remember sitting and chewing on a piece of dry, rubbery piece of steak for an hour after my family had left the table at around six year old. As an adult I didn’t eat steak until I was mid-20s as that’s how I remembered it. Now our family is better off and whenever I go to my parents I am almost force fed to the point of discomfort and I have to continually refuse biscuits, sweets, cakes etc when I am full.

Agree - food as a "treat/reward" esp unhealthy food is ingrained in my psyche and I have to work very hard to counteract it as an adult. With the kids I catch myself doing this. Try sometimes to model buying eg lots of lovely rasps strawberries etc and talking about how much of a treat it is. It costs a fortune though and they're eaten so quickly, it's difficult to compete with a cheap chocolate cake or crisps or crappy gelatine sweets/other junk of choice....

Frustrating that schools still push this. Sweets at end of term/prizes etc.
And you are "that parent" if you mention it...
Whats the point of the healthy eating stuff on the curriculum then? The cognitive dissonance is staggering.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 04/06/2021 09:03

I have tonight deleted this app having tried to use it and discovered it's useless because it is completely inaccurate. The majority of the data is from users who are apparently clueless to how to accurately work things out. I was checking an items and checked with the manufacturer info and the mfp results varied wildly and at least one entry was hundreds of cals out. Shouldn't be allowed, false advertising

I disagree. It's free so people need to think when they use it. Nothing is perfect. I lost 50kg in a year with it. Just need to check a bit which isn't a problem because it sves your choice. The fact that many can't be arsed to workout and log the portion isn't mfp's fault.

honeygirlz · 04/06/2021 09:12

@Confusedandshaken

I am not a big eater. It's a standing joke amongst my friends that I can't finish a main course in a restaurant. If it's somewhere too posh to take half home in a doggy bag I will only order a starter but I even think portion sizes given on most packets are ridiculously small. It's so they can say only xx calories/salt /fat a portion when realistically anyone with a normal appetite would eat at least twice that.

I've attached a photo demonstrating the most ridiculous example of this I've seen so far. The cake in the photo was sold as serving 6 people and as you can see it is smaller than my hand - and no, I don't have freakishly large hands. They are in proportion to my size 3 feet!!

That cake is perfectly for serving 6 slices of cake.
Confusedandshaken · 04/06/2021 09:12

I find this thread chilling. Even the joke posts about eating a grain of rice for lunch remind me of the competitive starvation on the anorexia forums my daughter used to follow.

honeygirlz · 04/06/2021 09:15

A tin of soup is the right size for me.

Maybe it's two portions if you have it as a starter to a main meal.

This will just push up prices.

Gingerwhinger01 · 04/06/2021 09:22

This thread is interesting didn’t know that the portion sizes on processed food were about manipulating the fat, sugar etc content.
I’ve never been overly interested in food restriction, or dieting. I’m not over weight, or bragging about under eating either.
But have felt greedy when I’ve eaten processed food that was labelled suitable for two all to myself . Talk about sending out confusing messages and shaming people that may already feel shame around food.

ILoveShula · 04/06/2021 10:23

With the one pack looking like a single portion but described as 2 portions, chances are you will just glance at the nutritional info and think it healthy or low calorie.

I'm not that bothered and generally don't feel guilty but it is misleading, and when I first noticed I felt cheated.

shivawn · 04/06/2021 10:33

I probably would have eaten the entire curry by myself and not cared that it was 2 portions. I've been a size 8 since puberty though and never worried about my weight. People just need to adjust what they eat depending on their own bodies.

TheWomanTheyCallJayne · 04/06/2021 10:36

I wonder if seeing food as a treat is an inherited left over from rationing. 1954 may feel like a long time ago but for learned behaviours it’s only a couple of generations which isn’t much. And it would have been a post rationing habit as well to start with.

DoingItMyself · 04/06/2021 10:44

That butter chicken is nice.

I think all food should be sold in single portions. It would make life easier, less wasted food etc. More packaging but every silver lining has a cloud. Discount for people buying two or more of the same for family meals.

3Britnee · 04/06/2021 10:55

@MouseholeCat

I'd actively worry about somebody having half a can of soup given that it's usually max 300 kcal a can and that's a pretty measly and rather depressing meal.
The only time I've ever had half a can, (as an adult, I'm sure my mum dished out child portions when I was little) was when DH and I wanted a small snack before a big meal later. We had half each with a slice of toast. We'd never have that alone as a meal though, possibly a lunch if having something else as well.
3Britnee · 04/06/2021 11:01

@Graphista I have tonight deleted this app having tried to use it and discovered it's useless because it is completely inaccurate. The majority of the data is from users who are apparently clueless to how to accurately work things out. I was checking an items and checked with the manufacturer info and the mfp results varied wildly and at least one entry was hundreds of cals out. Shouldn't be allowed, false advertising As someone who lives alone it is incredibly irritating that so many products come in sizes of 2/3/4 portions and supposedly can't be stored to use later (I'm learning this isn't always accurate either) It's all to make money of course

You click on the entry and edit it and it gives the real values.

Samsung health's food log is better though, imo.

IntermittentParps · 04/06/2021 11:03

a tin of soup entirely to themselves
entirely. Imagine!
Half a tin of soup is no good to man nor beast. The whole tin, and you need bread.

Ready meals that say 'serves 2' get roundly laughed at in my house. They serve one and then you need to add fresh veg as well (well, I do).

I'm a size 8 and 5' 10" before anyone says I must be huge.

Dixiechickonhols · 04/06/2021 11:53

Mumsnetters who comment on threads like this are not typical of general population. 65% of women 40-60 and 75% of men are overweight or obese.
I’m near top end of healthy bmi wearing a size 10 dress today.
We as a population have definitely lost sight of what a healthy portion size is.

Dixiechickonhols · 04/06/2021 11:59

This is a serves 2 m & s curry. This is all of it 2 portions. I was hungry and ate it all as it was only 500 calories and I had it with cauliflower rice not rice. But not a huge portion, most people would think it was serves 1 and eat a full pack. (And yes I usually cook from scratch but I’m only one who eats lamb - it was lovely)

To think this is why people’s ideas of portion sizes is messed up.
To think this is why people’s ideas of portion sizes is messed up.
MasterBeth · 04/06/2021 12:03

Soup is not “very filling”. That is all.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 04/06/2021 12:05

@MasterBeth

Soup is not “very filling”. That is all.
This is MN! You have only to look at the tin of soup to be 'full for hours'.

My son takes a medication that is an appetite stimulant as well (he lost about 2st he didn't need to lose after my father died) and so threads like this make me laugh.

MasterBeth · 04/06/2021 12:06

@TheWomanTheyCallJayne

I wonder if seeing food as a treat is an inherited left over from rationing. 1954 may feel like a long time ago but for learned behaviours it’s only a couple of generations which isn’t much. And it would have been a post rationing habit as well to start with.
I think rationing, or maybe the aftermath of rationing, has indeed fucked up the food thoughts of half of Britain. My parents’ view of food is very affected by their wartime experiences and I think that’s fed (pardon the pun) into my attitudes to finishing what’s on my plate, however hungry I am.

Still unlearning in my 50s!

Bluedeblue · 04/06/2021 12:08

DH has gained 2 stone, or more, and suggested using Hello Fresh as his son is using that for portion control

Hello Fresh portion sizes are massive. I was really shocked. And I say that as an over weight over eater.