To think this is just a joke now?

[Justinversusmrtumble]

Portugal possibly going back onto the amber list.
The only thing keeping my parents going is coming to celebrate toddlers DD’s birthday in the summer. It’s getting beyond ridiculous now. Feeling so low today, I miss my family so much.

But life isn’t safe bingbong. I worry when my kids are out late but the alternative, locking them up would be unthinkable.

That’s what people are doing to themselves. The hospitals are okay, deaths are low. Young unvaccinated people dating in the UK are far more of a risk to you than ops parents, so why the selective fear? Nothing to do with the foreignness of it, is there? I think there’s a word for that.

@TheKeatingFive Thank you 🙏 I was beginning to think I was going nuts. Yesterday I felt so low and guilty about having left my parents and then not being able to see them being my fault, it throws up all kinds of emotions. I think this pandemic has changed a lot of people and it’s brought out sides to them that are really negative.

I was beginning to think I was going nuts.

Don’t doubt yourself, this place is absolutely batshit at the minute.

I think this pandemic has changed a lot of people and it’s brought out sides to them that are really negative.

Yes absolutely. It’s very sad.

[quote Justinversusmrtumble]@TheKeatingFive Thank you 🙏 I was beginning to think I was going nuts. Yesterday I felt so low and guilty about having left my parents and then not being able to see them being my fault, it throws up all kinds of emotions. I think this pandemic has changed a lot of people and it’s brought out sides to them that are really negative.[/quote]
On Sunday my partner’s family celebrated a big bday , quite a few reunited in a garden to celebrate my bil bday.
I decided not to go. Instead I laid on my houses garden sobbing like a child cuz I wanted to be with my family.

To those that we call us selfish and that we can wait another year , many of us will be feeling like that many days. No we’ve not lost a loved one , but our mental health im pretty sure is badly affected. And yes it’s my fault for once coming to this country, I take responsibility about it and I’m Paying for it nowadays. Please , don’t come to threads like this one calling us names and telling us we can wait , no we can’t anymore we’ve done as much sacrifices as you’ve

@EasterIssland So sorry, I feel the same way 🥲 my thoughts are also about how long this going to go on for, it could be years, but seeing my parents is unthinkable as I’m sure it is to many of us. Times already going too quickly 💐

"Enough is enough". What the fuck does that actually mean? You're not a parent telling the government what the rules are.

@Heneage

"Enough is enough". What the fuck does that actually mean? You're not a parent telling the government what the rules are.

I might have said that sentence I’ve been enough without seeing my family so if I can I’ll go , I’ll follow what the government says (pcrs and self isolate) but I won’t stay here because someone In mn says I’m vile

Not flying to amber countries is guidance and not law, it’s a recommendation and not banned so enough time without seeing my family is enough

@EasterIssland 👏💜

@Heneage Are you not old and sensible enough to make your own judgements to some degree? You listen to every little thing the government tells you to do? Come on now.

@EasterIssland I don’t blame you, who knows when we will see them again, I’d hate to regret not seeing them on orders of a government who don’t know what they’re doing half the time and don’t stick to the rules themselves.

With all due respect, those of you complaining about the lack of income for people in Portugal who rely on tourism are out of order.

It's not the UK government's problem. We have big enough issues of our own in controlling the pandemic in the UK without adding concerns about foreign countries' residents' incomes!

It's up to Portugal and the EU to worry about their own people.

On one hand we've got people (rightly) apoplectic about India not being 'red' soon enough and wanting to know why we didn't take the Aus/Taiwan approach. And on the other hand people blaming the UK government for economic problems in other countries when they try to batten down the hatches a bit.

It's quite ridiculous.

Not everything can be rearranged. We had an amazing summer planned for my 50th last year. Now DH is bedbound and dying, none of it will ever happen.

OrangePowder I am so sorry

This is something people want to gloss over. Lockdowns/ restrictions aren’t some kind of pause button. It is time we don’t get back. There are many things that can get us beyond Covid and no one knows how much time anyone has left.

Can you not visit the Uk and quarantine at their house? Honestly I do it now and not wait.

sorry to hear that @OrangePowder sending you loads of hugs

@OrangePowder so so sorry to hear that 💐

It's ridiculous- Portugal cases are around 500 on average a week. Yesterday we clocked 4000. How is Portugal more of a risk than going to your local Tesco.

They aren't, we are. WE are the risk to THEM.

I actually think it's a combination of factors - ours and theirs. I read that Portugal was 30/100k after they first unlocked but are now around 80/100k so their numbers are understandably changing a bit as things open up. Things will naturally fluctuate and then hopefully settle down again over the next 6-8 weeks (am not a scientist just hopeful)

@nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut

It's ridiculous- Portugal cases are around 500 on average a week. Yesterday we clocked 4000. How is Portugal more of a risk than going to your local Tesco.

They aren't, we are. WE are the risk to THEM.

In that case we’d not be welcome, not this situation with Amber list

@AngeloMysterioso

Remember the good old days when it was ok to be upset about something without a bunch of vicious harpies jumping down your throat with their “UGH you’re so STUPID and SELFISH WHINING about something SO TRIVIAL and UNIMPORTANT don’t you know WE’RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC WHO CARES IF YOU CAN’T SEE YOUR ELDERLY PARENTS don’t you know there’s a VIRUS don’t you know people have DIED.

I’m so fucking sick of it.

👏👏👏

@AngeloMysterioso

Remember the good old days when it was ok to be upset about something without a bunch of vicious harpies jumping down your throat with their “UGH you’re so STUPID and SELFISH WHINING about something SO TRIVIAL and UNIMPORTANT don’t you know WE’RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC WHO CARES IF YOU CAN’T SEE YOUR ELDERLY PARENTS don’t you know there’s a VIRUS don’t you know people have DIED.

I’m so fucking sick of it.

Do you know, as someone who has lost family, that's really bloody rude.

And I don't think calling me a harpie or vicious is acceptable at all.
I had a point of view different to the OP, put politely and explained why.

Shame on you

put politely

Not true, sorry.

@TheKeatingFive

put politely

Not true, sorry.

Well please show where I wasn't polite?

Calling people vicious and vile harpies is disgraceful.

I think you know. When you dismissed her very real issues as ‘moaning’.

You simply saying you were polite doesn’t make it true. You were very dismissive and hurtful about someone going through different challenges to yourself.

I don't think I remember these good old days. There have always been different points of view and differing levels of empathy. Report anything you think breaches Talk Guidelines.