Mr Wetherspoon - otherwise known as Mr Leave UK - wants his EU workers back.

[longwayoff]

AIBU to be laughing,. A lot. What is he to do? He's lost his supply of cheap labour having voted and campaigned for it to happen.

And I would bet money he would vote Leave again.

One thing I've learnt over the last few years is that Leave voters would rather burn down their own house than not have Brexit. I wonder how idiot eel bloke is doing?

The likelihood of Wetherspoons folding is remote, they will be entering a boom period. The possibility of the shareholders giving Mr Martin the elbow is slightly higher. Fingers crossed.

@longwayoff

I would rather die of thirst than ever drink where he makes profit.
The man is a disgrace.

So many people on here thinking they are so clever but believing a load of shite the papers printed and spouting totally wrong facts.

I have no argument with people who hate Tim Martin or his views but it's embarrassing that people are still spouting the "he sacked all his staff" bollocks.

No one was sacked, he said right at the start that there will be a furlough scheme but no one knows how it will work yet.
He said that if people who were worried about paying the bills wanted to go work at Tesco or wherever then he understood and that they would be welcomed back to their jobs of they wanted it.

No one got sacked!
We were all payed from the very start.
We have proper contracts.
Wetherspoon don't do zero hours.
We are all enrolled in a pension scheme.
We get monthly/quarterly bonuses.
We get free shares.
There is a good chance of progression and we have to do regular training on all sorts of subjects.
My managers were very understanding when I left the bastard and now arrange my shifts around school hours.

Like any other places there are good ones and bad ones. They are not all shit holes. The pub I work in is full of families and pensioners. We are a friendly place with lots of regulars.

There are around 40,000 people working for Spoons.
I'm a single mum and school hour jobs are virtually none existent round here so
all the arseholes who don't care if the company go bust and all the pubs shut when its keeping a roof over my kids heads and the bills paid should be ashamed of yourselves.

Unscrupulous employers forced to improve the lot of their staff? Seems like good news to me.

🤣🤣 do you think that’s what will happen?? Bless.

@MissChanandlerBong90

Unscrupulous employers forced to improve the lot of their staff? Seems like good news to me.

🤣🤣 do you think that’s what will happen?? Bless.

I'd like to think so, but given that we can't work anywhere else anymore, we might end up being stuck with even worse working conditions that we had pre-Brexit.

I'd be quite happy to see Wetherspoons go out of business. I'm sure the staff would find jobs elsewhere. But sadly Mr Brexit Hypocrite would land on his feet regardless.

@EmeraldShamrock

The real problems will start when care homes are affected by staff shortages when lifes are at risk nevermind bars and hotels. With the right incentives it'll be okay but like Ireland too with tax credit top ups many parents find it better financially working pt in lower paying jobs.

Hospitals are already facing staffing issues as for the last 6 or 7 years we have sourced nurses from Italy, Spain and Portugal. Well most of them have have returned back to Europe (at least in my local hospital) so now the bosses are looking at Australia, India and the phillipines to staff the gaps.

Same shit from fishermen and farmers - who would have thought it.

No one to pick soft fruit or work in the highland bars and hotels either. Crazy that people believed this would be an improvement.

But farmers played the system with gangmasters, paying below rate and charging for accommodation, lots of UK people applied last year to no replys as enough profit in it.

Didn't realise so many MN people were Wetherspoons customers- is it the Merlot at £1.05 a large glass?

www.ft.com/content/4d4bbf25-97c4-498d-9772-80c0b165f52e I was reading about farmers getting 100k to “retire”, so that should keep them quite in their Brexit older years.

I was reading about farmers getting 100k to “retire”, so that should keep them quite in their Brexit older years.

This makes me so furious. Farmers are not poor however they like to paint themselves. I live in the countryside, I've never seen a poor farmer. Poor farm labours, yes, but I bet they won't be getting a penny of this 100k.

@Kendodd

I was reading about farmers getting 100k to “retire”, so that should keep them quite in their Brexit older years.

This makes me so furious. Farmers are not poor however they like to paint themselves. I live in the countryside, I've never seen a poor farmer. Poor farm labours, yes, but I bet they won't be getting a penny of this 100k.

I agree. Some tenant farmers struggle for sue, but a neighbour can claim his 100k, pass his farm to his two children (so no inheritance tax) having built them both houses worth about £1.5 million each. They do much of the work already, so it’s £100k of taxpayers money on top of all the other perks.

I can’t blame them, but the system is hardly fair.

Why would Europeans want to come back to work at Wetherspoons when they are being treated like shit by the British Government?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/13/eu-citizens-arriving-in-uk-being-locked-up-and-expelled.

Some even had interviews to attend.

Delivery firms like DPD and care homes are also finding it hard to fill vacancies. Many EU nurses and doctors have left because of Brexit leaving the NHS short of staff.

We have an ageing population and will need migrants to fill job vacancies except now they will come from places like India and other countries rather than the EU. Some of those people who supported Brexit because they did not like EU migrants coming here to live and work are going to be very disappointed. Just wait until a trade deal is signed with India.

Oh and the reason James Dyson and Tim Martin supported Brexit is because they don't like our labour laws or paying corporation tax. The ability to hire and fire at will

metro.co.uk/2017/11/12/james-dyson-wants-to-make-it-easier-to-hire-and-fire-people-7073226/

The likes of Wetherspoons may have to pay higher wages in the short term but once the flow of migrants from other parts of the world begins I wouldn't bet on pay and conditions improving.

He looks like one of the characters played by Harry Enfield...

Let's see if people do start offering better pay and conditions before we claim it as a Brexit benefit, I'm not holding my breath. And the vaccine thing is bollocks...we were still in transition when those decisions were made...in or out we would have been able to source our own vaccines. Even that triumph is looking less great if Bojo is going to be so careless about letting new vaccine resistant variants into the country.

Fishing and farming are fucked, most of the car industry has gone and the Northern Ireland problem looks unsolvable. The deal that was touted as perfect six months ago is now not working for Ireland. Whodathunk it?

Just wait until a trade deal is signed with India.

That isn't going to happen. The price is unlimited (in numbers and length of stay) immigration. Admittedly symmetrical - as many Brits as want to can move to India.

epsilonzetaeta
Some even had interviews to attend

Indeed. "Maria's" friend is also quoted in another publication -exclaiming his surprise that a young Spanish 'boy' (presumably one of the Spaniards mentioned in your link) was detained "despite having a job interview the next day." The young man was supposed to be in home quarantine for 10 days upon arrival - not wandering about the city going for in-person job interviews! How many of these young EU citizens did not have proof that they had booked and paid for COVID-19 travel tests for day 2 and day 8 of their quarantine (also a mandatory requirement before they can enter the UK from an amber list country)? Not much point the Guardian quoting Home Office rules about job interviews if these young people are not meeting COVID-19 requirements to enter the country.

@Blacktothepink

Ha ha ha ha, talk about turkeys voting for Christmas 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Along with farmers and fishermen

Zero sympathy for farmers or fishermen. Anyone willing to rip up an international peace treaty credited with saving the lives of 2,000 people is despicable imo. And yes, they absolutely knew that's what they were doing re NI, maybe not in 2016 but most definitely when the voted to 'get Brexit done'.

Anyone willing to rip up an international peace treaty credited with saving the lives of 2,000 people is despicable imo.

And yet the 'despicable' European Commission were willing to trigger Article 16 at the drop of a hat - which has undoubtedly helped to stoke political tensions in Northern Ireland;

1 Feb 2021
How the EU provoked anger in Ireland and the UK with plans for a hard border for vaccines. The proposal caused outcry on both sides of the Irish Sea...

The plans led to frantic talks between Dublin, London and Brussels... before the EU was forced to do a dramatic u-turn at the literal eleventh hour.

Stormont First Minister Arlene Foster brands the move an “incredible act of hostility”...

“By triggering Article 16 in this manner, the European Union has once again shown it is prepared to use Northern Ireland when it suits their interests but in the most despicable manner– over the provision of a vaccine which is designed to save lives” ...

The [Irish] Taoiseach tells both the BBC and RTÉ Radio that he was given no advance notice of the intention by the EU to trigger Article 16.

www.thejournal.ie/timeline-eu-vaccine-northern-ireland-protocol-article-16-5341455-Feb2021/

Ah. Clavinova. What took you so long? As you see, we've been running riot with our outrageous misconceptions in your absence. Can you find a current CandP in support of Tim Martin? Preferably one he hasn't written himself. Looking forward to it.

I look forward to that too .

Yes the problems in N.I are all the EU's fault....

Can you find a current CandP in support of Tim Martin?

I have a CandP from prior to the referendum. His views on immigration don't appear to have changed - he was pro Brexit and pro immigration. I don't visit his pubs myself, but I can't see that he is a hypocrite;

3 June 2016
Martin insists his position against the EU has nothing to do with immigration – admitting his business has benefited from the freedom of movement – and is instead about regaining sovereignty.

He said if Britain votes to leave the union, he would want the current rules allowing EU nationals to work in the UK to continue.

www.buzzfeed.com/simonneville/pro-brexit-wetherspoons-chief-says-1-in-10-staff-are-from-ov