Adverts at 930pm overly too overly sexual...........

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Watching the Great British Pottery Throw Down on REALLY with my (teenage) kids and an advert for Love Honey came on and literally far too overt -finished with a woman in suspenders and some kind of straps across her bum cheeks hitting herself with a whip from behind-WTAF? But all the clips were seemingly about the women needing to dress up to impress the man (but that's another issue!!)
I know it is past 9pm and they are teenagers but it is half term etc.....

Followed by an advert for erectile problems!

I'm no prude but please come on! My kids were pretty revolted particularly my daughter and said 'Yuk, women aren't sexual play things for men' which was the implication of the advert.

I know porn is widely available but we click or don't click but an advert when we are relaxing watching a Pottery Programme -give me a break.

It's really NOT that simple.
Of course I police what my younger children watch after 9pm. But if my young teenager starts to watch, say, a nature programme at 8.30 which ends at 9.30, I would deem that suitable content for them to watch and age appropriate.
I don't expect a soft porn sex toy advert to be shown in the middle of it.

You don't seem to understand that the watershed is 9pm. It doesn't matter that your nature-loving teen started watching a program before then. If they're watching TV after 9pm then they may be exposed to adult content. That is what the watershed is for. To protect children from watching inappropriate, adult content. It's up to the TV channels to abide by the rules of pre and post watershed viewing and show appropriate content for the time. Whether you view a TV show to be appropriate (content/age) for your teenager and let them watch it after 9pm is irrelevant. If it's after the watershed they may access adult content.

If you know the watershed is 9 then what are you moaning about?
And what the hell has half term got to do with it? They don’t change the watershed because of school holidays ..

@Beseigedbykillersquirrels

You're missing the point entirely, but crack on.

Viagra ads get put on football ads in middle of the day

Women on MN have been advised to wear lingerie, use toys etc to bring a spark back into the bedroom...if they’re happy to do that, why not? Doesn’t make them a sexual plaything Gie a man!

For a man

I'm no prude but please come on! My kids were pretty revolted particularly my daughter and said 'Yuk, women aren't sexual play things for men' which was the implication of the advert.

I was about to say that if your daughter said this then she is clearly old enough and mature enough to understand, has clearly had some education / discussion surrounding the topic and has formed her own very healthy views, and therefore what's the harm in her being exposed to the advert?

But then I watched the actual advert and cannot comprehend how anyone would see that as 'women being sexual playthings for men'

Is your daughter under the impression that all sexual activity / sexual pleasure is for the benefit of men?

That's the only explanation I can think of for her comment (if it even was her comment). If that's the case I think you need to be having a few in depth discussions with her, because it sounds like a very problematic attitude for a teenage girl to have.

Also... not to rain on your porn hate and male statistics (because I wouldn't be overly sad to see the back of the industry either, or at least a massive reform)... but 1 in 3 users are women, and when you look at the search term statistics, men are more likely to search things like 'amateur' i.e normal couples having normal sex, and animated / hentai i.e cartoon characters with no victims or harm, while women are 113% more likely (than men) to watch 'hardcore', 106% more likely to watch 'rough sex', and 104% more likely to watch 'gangbang'.

And the theories behind the trends are quite fascinating, with everything from women having coercion fantasies because they are less repressed and have higher self esteem, to having such fantasies as a result of 'sexual blame avoidance' i.e so they don't have to feel guilt or shame for wanting or enjoying sex.

Which circles back to it being quite concerning that a 13 year old girl seems to view two adults engaging in consensual sex as "yuk! Women aren't sexual playthings for men!" I'd be having a conversation with her and making clear that consensual sexual activity / pleasure is not a women being turned into a plaything for the benefit of men (i.e, something to feel ashamed of). It's just as often for the benefit of the woman and actually nothing to feel ashamed of.

[quote bookworm20]@Beseigedbykillersquirrels

You're missing the point entirely, but crack on.[/quote]
No. You are missing the point entirely. You decide that a TV programme is suitable for your young teen. This programme is shown after the 9pm watershed. You know the rules regarding the watershed yet think it should be ok for your young teen to continue watching it. You are therefore accepting the risk that your child is watching TV after the watershed and may see some adult content. If you watch commercial TV then this includes adverts. I'm running out of ways to explain that post-watershed TV includes adult content. Regardless of weather your young teen is enjoying the nature documentary or not.

Ha just watched the ad, it's pretty raunchy 😂 But it's interesting your daughter felt comfortable enough to say what she said, and maybe it's useful to have things to prompt conversations like that. Kids are aware of sex, usually fairly curious to know about it, but not about to bring it up randomly. Maybe it's not so bad to come across conversation-starters relating to it?

@Beseigedbykillersquirrels

*It's really NOT that simple. Of course I police what my younger children watch after 9pm. But if my young teenager starts to watch, say, a nature programme at 8.30 which ends at 9.30, I would deem that suitable content for them to watch and age appropriate*. I don't expect a soft porn sex toy advert to be shown in the middle of it.

You don't seem to understand that the watershed is 9pm. It doesn't matter that your nature-loving teen started watching a program before then. If they're watching TV after 9pm then they may be exposed to adult content. That is what the watershed is for. To protect children from watching inappropriate, adult content. It's up to the TV channels to abide by the rules of pre and post watershed viewing and show appropriate content for the time. Whether you view a TV show to be appropriate (content/age) for your teenager and let them watch it after 9pm is irrelevant. If it's after the watershed they may access adult content.

This ^

Winched- I'd have no problem with a 13 year old being repulsed by sex, the longer the better !

I also found those percentages quite confusing

I agree and this is why I watch catch up or youtube and subscription sevices. When I do watch regular TV my children are so oblivious to how it works they will tell me to skip the ad.

I hate it too because it plays into the porn industry's portrayal of women as objects for men to subject to any kind of sexual deviancy aka non consensual acts

@tentosix it really doesn't, have you seen it? It doesn't show a woman doing anything other than enjoying herself, which is what sex should be about, both parties enjoying themselves!

Exactly. Do people think 15 year olds go to bed at 9? Yet at 15 it is illegal to have sex yet it is okay to watch an advert about sex? Irrespective of half term 15 year olds are not tucked up in bed asleep at that time. Sometimes they may want to watch a film with their family not on catch up? And then lo and behold that ad comes on.
They know about sex but is it right to have it on display like that at that time at night?

What time do you think things unsuitable for 15 year olds should be on? Eleven o'clock? Lots of adults don't want to stay up until midnight or later, because they have to get up for work the next day, or have young children who get up early in the morning. The world does not revolve around other people's children.

I’m with the OP. I find the advert revolting and just don’t want it intruding into my evening. We don’t all have to be having sex all the time - which seems to be implied!

Worse than this is an advert for a sex line that is broadcast on the radio late at night - Strictly Secrety. It’s basically an ad for hookers.

This is Boris’s Britain, no standards left! Anything goes. People actually do need boundaries!

And those accusing the OP of being a prude are doing the pornographers and groomers’ work for them.

Love Honey isn't the porn industry ffs. You can think porn is an abusive industry and still enjoy sex with your partner/want to use a sex toy

I’ve never tried using it so I don’t know whether the women are paid or not - I thought they were. It’s revolting. It sounds like something where men ring up and wank.

Is it? That’s not clear from the ads. It has a woman’s voice saying “we can be discreet”, “we all have needs” and “it’ll be our little secret”. I must have heard it loads of times and always assumed it was something where men pay to use women.

There isn’t a burly bloke saying “it’ll be our little secret”!!!