Adverts at 930pm overly too overly sexual...........

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Watching the Great British Pottery Throw Down on REALLY with my (teenage) kids and an advert for Love Honey came on and literally far too overt -finished with a woman in suspenders and some kind of straps across her bum cheeks hitting herself with a whip from behind-WTAF? But all the clips were seemingly about the women needing to dress up to impress the man (but that's another issue!!)
I know it is past 9pm and they are teenagers but it is half term etc.....

Followed by an advert for erectile problems!

I'm no prude but please come on! My kids were pretty revolted particularly my daughter and said 'Yuk, women aren't sexual play things for men' which was the implication of the advert.

I know porn is widely available but we click or don't click but an advert when we are relaxing watching a Pottery Programme -give me a break.

@Namechangeforthis2021

As I've already said the watershed is 9pm.

But it's different in different countries -did you know that!!??

On another note the Love Honey advert is a feminist issue for me -all the women running around a dressing up for their "men" as well as no hint of LGBTQ+ - I know I will moan about everything!!

Hey, sorry to be a nag, Genuine question, just wondered what the “-“ stands for in ‘LGBTQ+ -‘

I don’t want to see sexy ads when watching tv with my family - anyone who does is a bit weird IMO

@Justanotherlurker

My 13 year old goes to be at 10.30 in the holidays. I don’t want her watching ‘sex positive’ people with their arses out. Totally inappropriate.

sex positive .... Their sex people Lynne!

Mary whitehouse was born in the wrong century, we have gone full circle where people are parroting an old school conservative.

If you seriously think porn etc has advanced women I refer you to the following stats 85% of 14-16 year old boys view porn 53% of boys think that the porn they view is realistic sex to 'expect' 50% of porn they view contains violence, a much higher % is exerted control etc 47% of boys that view porn go on to view extreme pornography Porn sites have more viewing the Netflix etc all added together 70 million child porn images available currently on the internet -actually let's rephrase that it's not child porn it child sex abuse

Do you seriously think in sex / porn women are equal?

That's another argument.

Yabu.

I saw a LH advert the other day. Can’t see the issue, it was inclusive, only with adults and not just for the male gaze as you said. What’s the issue, that teens are aware adults engage in sex and shop in relation to that activity. I can’t believe this would be a surprising revelation for them or do they believe themselves to have been immaculate conceptions?

Additionally, it’s also illegal for younger teens to buy alcohol or drive but they’re advertised cars and booze throughout the day. Gambling too and food which will probably give them an early death. Just applying this to sexual content doesn’t hold water.

Talking of porn, there is a belief that the increase of porn has led to huge rises (no pun intended ) in ED amongst young men. So actually young people need ED to be less stigmatised for them.

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@RubyFakeLips

Yabu.

I saw a LH advert the other day. Can’t see the issue, it was inclusive, only with adults and not just for the male gaze as you said. What’s the issue, that teens are aware adults engage in sex and shop in relation to that activity. I can’t believe this would be a surprising revelation for them or do they believe themselves to have been immaculate conceptions?

Additionally, it’s also illegal for younger teens to buy alcohol or drive but they’re advertised cars and booze throughout the day. Gambling too and food which will probably give them an early death. Just applying this to sexual content doesn’t hold water.

Talking of porn, there is a belief that the increase of porn has led to huge rises (no pun intended ) in ED amongst young men. So actually young people need ED to be less stigmatised for them.

People eat junk food and drink in public and in front of their families. People don't have sex in front of their families so there is a massive difference. Advertising a Big Mac and a dildo are different somewhat.

Rubyfake- or they could just watch less porn

What do porn and lovehoney have to do with each other? Other than sex that is? Seriously I don't understand what porn has to do with a love honey advert. Empowering women to take control of their sex life and desires is surely a good thing and not at all like porn...

I honestly think children are sexualised too early by this sort of stuff.

Personally, I feel that I was. I used to read More magazine and Just Seventeen when I was a young teen. Articles all about how to give boys blow jobs and kiss with tongues, what fingering is, ‘position of the week’, etc, etc.

It was nothing more than paedophillic wank material. But as the intended ‘target market’ (as opposed to the unintended target market of ephebophiles), I was exposed to way too much, way too soon. It led me and my friends - including my male friends- to have to conversations about these sorts of things before we should have even had it on our radars. This helped create a culture among my peers where boys expected girls to deliver on what they’d learnt in these magazines. And that in turn led me to experiment sexually long before I really wanted to or felt ready. Looking back, I can see how that was traumatising for me.

The media might be different - internet and social media vs print magazines, but nothing else has changed all that very much as far as I can see.

So laugh and call me Mary Whitehouse if you want. But I just see the normalisation of children being exposed to hyper sexual stuff and it being minimised as ‘sex positive’ as grooming and boundary erosion.

There are a million other age-appropriate ways to talk to teens about safe, emotionally healthy sexual experiences that don’t involve having to watch a gay couple fake orgasms on an advert for sex toys.

Some people agree, some people don't. That's ok.

I don't see porn as women friendly, or women positive or great for our boys /men either. That's my view.
I'm entitled to it. I'm not frigid or a prude but I just have different boundaries.

Because the adverts are on after the watershed and therefore may contain sexual content, bad language etc. It's pretty common knowledge!

Advert during Only Fools on Gold for vibrators one time just after 9pm

@Namechangeforthis2021

Some people agree, some people don't. That's ok.

I don't see porn as women friendly, or women positive or great for our boys /men either. That's my view.
I'm entitled to it. I'm not frigid or a prude but I just have different boundaries.

Yes but porn and Lovehoney adverts are different things.... It's like comparing porn to romcoms

@IEat

Advert during Only Fools on Gold for vibrators one time just after 9pm

I'm fairly certain that the average viewer of Only Fools and Horses is old enough to have sex and be aware of the watershed

Im sick of seeing sex stuff advertised as if its the be all and end all. If people want sex toys they know where to go - a decent SEO should turn up a few websites.

It would at least be more interesting if they advertised anything even a bit out of the ordinary like strap ons rather than the same tored images of women all dressed up as though its aspirational for the woman and pleasing for the man. Boring as F.

I think it's a remarkably inclusive ad. Men and women of different shapes and ages and races in different configurations (including non-straight couples).

It's also not particularly explicit. In no way more revealing than a bathing suit, and with nothing more exciting than something best resembling a feather duster. Honestly, 70s tv was more explicit (and far more sexist). And there is nothing particularly anti feminist or alarming about it.

I would class it as pretty inoffensive and actually kind of delightful and straightforward and healthy.

I agree with you op. The “watershed” is too early at 9pm.

You've got completely the wrong idea about Lovehoney, they are a really inclusive company. There is a gay couple in the advert. You've leapt to conclusions to give you're argument some weight and you're daughter is unfortunately owing suit.

Love honey ads - too early

Erectile dysfunction should be on all day though. It's a medical problem no different to the many ads for female in continuance or vaginal dryness which are on throughout the day

*following suit.

@Namechangeforthis2021

Some people agree, some people don't. That's ok.

I don't see porn as women friendly, or women positive or great for our boys /men either. That's my view.
I'm entitled to it. I'm not frigid or a prude but I just have different boundaries.

Love honest isn't porn though, it's common for people to use sex toys and lingerie as part of a healthy sex life.

We have too move away from the idea that absolutely everything remotely sexual is exploiting women, for two reasons, firstly lots of women enjoy sex, and they like to be adventurous and experiment, and in the case that this is safe and consensual then this is completely normal, and certainly doesn't make them play things for men, women are allowed to enjoy healthy active sex lives just as men are. Secondly, lots of women are genuinely sexually exploited, through absolutely no choice of their own and they go through hell....suggesting that a woman taking charge of her own sex life is sexual exploitation minimises those genuine victims and what they go through.

@CroneAVirus

I honestly think children are sexualised too early by this sort of stuff.

Personally, I feel that I was. I used to read More magazine and Just Seventeen when I was a young teen. Articles all about how to give boys blow jobs and kiss with tongues, what fingering is, ‘position of the week’, etc, etc.

It was nothing more than paedophillic wank material. But as the intended ‘target market’ (as opposed to the unintended target market of ephebophiles), I was exposed to way too much, way too soon. It led me and my friends - including my male friends- to have to conversations about these sorts of things before we should have even had it on our radars. This helped create a culture among my peers where boys expected girls to deliver on what they’d learnt in these magazines. And that in turn led me to experiment sexually long before I really wanted to or felt ready. Looking back, I can see how that was traumatising for me.

The media might be different - internet and social media vs print magazines, but nothing else has changed all that very much as far as I can see.

So laugh and call me Mary Whitehouse if you want. But I just see the normalisation of children being exposed to hyper sexual stuff and it being minimised as ‘sex positive’ as grooming and boundary erosion.

There are a million other age-appropriate ways to talk to teens about safe, emotionally healthy sexual experiences that don’t involve having to watch a gay couple fake orgasms on an advert for sex toys.

^ Yep. Exactly. My daughters talk all the time about the expectations in a relationship -chores, who should raise the baby etc as well as well as their boundaries. Blocking boys at school when needed and dealing with sexualised comments at schools.

I remember a boy asking me at 16 to let him 'finger me' and when I refused being called frigid. Yep they were reading J17 at 12/13/14

More recent discussions between my own - involved why girls wear leggings ( their thought, I stress their thought was bum on display etc), girls expected to wear high heels and this been deemed sexy, boys flat trainers etc -why -and they looked into it and had a whole big discussion between themselves about it -was it to make the leg look thinner or them more vulnerable etc. I don't intervene in their conversations but I'm proud of them for discussing it as teenagers and preteen and making their own mind up as they go.

Love honest isn't porn though, it's common for people to use sex toys and lingerie as part of a healthy sex life.
We have too move away from the idea that absolutely everything remotely sexual is exploiting women, for two reasons, firstly lots of women enjoy sex, and they like to be adventurous and experiment, and in the case that this is safe and consensual then this is completely normal, and certainly doesn't make them play things for men, women are allowed to enjoy healthy active sex lives just as men are. Secondly, lots of women are genuinely sexually exploited, through absolutely no choice of their own and they go through hell....suggesting that a woman taking charge of her own sex life is sexual exploitation minimises those genuine victims and what they go through

That’s as maybe. But underage children don’t need to know any of this. It’s immaterial to the discussion, which is about how the sort of content that shows what you’re describing is inappropriate for children.

@CroneAVirus you could argue it was immaterial to the conversation that the OP listed some stats about porn in discussion to a live honey advert

Love Honey can be as inclusive as they want to be. That isn't the issue. Neither for me the content and who was represented, which gender, which coupling etc. Or the message it portrayed.

The point is 9.00pm isn't quite late enough. Ive seen Harry Potter films finish at 9pm on ITV in the past. Other family friendly programmes have also been on til 9pm.

Just a little later that's all.