To think Boris should not have been married in Westmister Cathedral?

[buggerbuggery]

Divorced people are not allowed to be married in a Catholic church. Boris Johnson has been married twice before. His first marriage was annulled, so the church does not count. But his second marriage does count. So he should never have been allowed to marry in a Catholic Cathedral.

[quote MercyBooth]@CaptainPovey Yes Youd think he would have abandoned the exploding sofa look for his wedding day.[/quote]
He probably did except for the released photo.

the church is behaving terribly

You sound ridiculously naive OP if you seriously think this ranks particularly high in the list of heinous things done by the Catholic Church

The ignorance on this thread is shocking!

"Harry and Megan were married in a Catholic church" ????? For FUCKS SAKE.

Peter Phillips had to renounce his place in the succession because he married a Catholic. Catholicism is anathema to the Royal family.

Catholics can get a dispensation to marry even if divorced or marrying a divorcee using either Pauline or Petrovian privilege Or if no sacramental bond existed - unusual for this to be found when the relationship has produced children

@KateTheEighth

Meghan and Harry weren't married in a Catholic Church

They married in at George's chapel, which is Roman Catholic

@buggerbuggery

Harry and Meghan did not get married in a Catholic service. It was CofE.

The Chapel they married in is Roma catholic

No it isn't!

@Nicolastuffedone

I would say the Catholic Church has more to concern itself with, wouldn’t you? And yet, all anyone can talk about is how awful it is they allowed Boris & Carrie to be married in Westminster Cathedral

It's a symptom of a much wider hypocrisy.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-wedding-catholic-westminister-cathedral-b1856582.html%3famp

So according to this article, in which they interview an ecclesiastical and canon lawyer, as Boris was baptised Roman Catholic, you have to have your wedding overseen by a RC priest or deacon, or else get permission from your bishop to marry outside the RC church. Therefore, if he didn’t seek permission from the bishop for wedding no.2, the RC church doesn’t see the marriage as valid and therefore it never existed in their eyes.

It’s all very interesting but also very harsh on his second wife and his 4 kids! Would this count them as illegitimate in the eyes of the RC church? Or would they be legitimate under ‘acting in good faith’ a la Mary I?

They married in at George's chapel, which is Roman Catholic

Of course it isn't. The chapel is very much Church of England ... which Harry's gran happens to be the head of. Especially as it's also in the grounds of Windsor Castle, which she owns. Small matter of the Reformation ... long story, can't be bothered to go into it right now...🙄

The marriage covenant is sealed by God, and the Church does not have the authority to dissolve it (see Catechism #1639-1640); the Church bases this on the teaching of Jesus (see Mark 10:6-12)

I'm not Catholic, but to my way of thinking you would have to be married by a priest or a minister in order for it to be sealed by God. So being married in a civil ceremony it wouldn't be "sealed by God."

OP: I wonder how the Catholic Church could allow Boris to marry, how could they be so hypocritical, they're behaving terribly!

Practically everyone else: probably because the Catholic Church has been behaving terribly and hypocritically for years, this is by far not one of the wildest things they've done

OP: hmmmmm wonder why, wonder why...can't believe they're behaving so badly, so unlike them!

It doesn’t make any difference to anything within the Catholic Church whether or not a child is illegitimate.

Hypocrisy in the Catholic Church. Gosh, that's shocking.

‘I'm not Catholic, but to my way of thinking you would have to be married by a priest or a minister in order for it to be sealed by God. So being married in a civil ceremony it wouldn't be "sealed by God."’

Yes, a civil ceremony has not been ‘sealed by God’ but a civil ceremony will not automatically be annulled by the church. It depends upon the circumstances.

@MerylStropp

They married in at George's chapel, which is Roman Catholic

Of course it isn't. The chapel is very much Church of England ... which Harry's gran happens to be the head of. Especially as it's also in the grounds of Windsor Castle, which she owns. Small matter of the Reformation ... long story, can't be bothered to go into it right now...🙄

Indeed. www.stgeorges-windsor.org/about-st-georges/history/st-georges-timeline/ 1534 is the key date to look for.

Harry and Meghan were married by the Archbishop of Canterbury who is the Head of the Church of England!!!!! It very definitely was not an RC service!!! As others have pointed out St George's Windsor is a C of E Chapel.

@DuckonaBike - Seems a little weird for a twice divorced serial adulterer and father of an unspecified number of illegitimate children to get married anywhere, never mind in a Catholic church.
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Very well said
I totally agree.
Marriage is supposed to be a sacrament !
I'm disgusted that the marriage was allowed to be held in Westminster Cathedral.
Shame on the authorities.
How dare they illegitimise his children with Marina.
One law for the rich and powerful and another for the peasants.
Princess Caroline got an annulment of her first marriage. Easy peasy.

A friend of mine had to jump through hoops to get an annulment.
One of the priests on the adjudicating panel was/is a convicted paedophile, who may still be in prison.
Utterly sickening.

It is really, really simple.

If you are a Catholic and you marry outside of the church without the Catholic church’s permission, your marriage is invalid.

A fundamental part of Christianity and indeed of other faiths is respect for human life. During the course of the pandemic by his actions and inactions Mr Johnson has shown little or no regard for human life, even if the 'let the bodies pile up' quote attributed to him is not true.

That alone is enough for me to suggest he should not have been allowed to marry in any church, or mosque, or synagogue, or any place of worship.

I think the Catholic Church long since abdicated the moral high ground, and I say that as someone who married in a Catholic church.

@Aquamarine1029

I don't care and it's none of my business. Can't imagine why anyone would care, honestly.

Totally agree with this. Wind your neck in.

@LibertyMole

It is really, really simple.

If you are a Catholic and you marry outside of the church without the Catholic church’s permission, your marriage is invalid.

To clarify - you do actually mean invalid (only) in the eyes of the Roman Catholic Church and not according to the law of the legal jurisdiction nor another religious or recognised non religious custom? For instance a shot gun Las Vegas drive through Elvis chapel, to offer a crazy extreme example. In addition the issues of Roman Catholic invalidity of former non Catholic marriage(s) would be unilateral only?

[quote buggerbuggery]@Aquamarine1029 because some of us are Catholics? This is not a private matter. It is about church rules.[/quote]
A churchgoing hypocrite.

[quote buggerbuggery]@Spanglybangles that is a new rule that I have never heard before. I know plenty of people who could not marry in a Catholic Church because their partner was divorced and the first marriage was not in a catholic church.
This is simply because he is Prime Minister and is totally hypocritical of the church.[/quote]
I totally agree with you.
The whole 'didn't have a catholic marriage previously so church allowed it' is so wrong.
The CCC is clear that marriages outside of the church are still marriages unless they are in nav lid for a particular reason devised in the canon.
It's because of who he is he has been granted the ability to overrule canon law apparently.