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To feel I'm not responsible for my disabled child's conduct at nursery?

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Hannah941 · 25/05/2021 18:23

My pre school age old child is autistic (diagnosed) and strongly fits the PDA profile, thus he has associated challenging behavioural. He has an EHCP and is currently in an early years setting that claims to know about and understand SN children.

As per most children on the spectrum his behaviour can be very challenging. After consulting with an ed psych, paediatrican and numerous SALT therapists we are following their suggestions and implementing reccomended strategies at home. He has made good progress in a year but he'll always be autistic and have difficulties with emotional regulation and conduct. He has been known to hit and push other children. I get that's it's not acceptable but he's not the only child there who does this.

His EHCP specifically outlines this as a primary challenge he has and so 1-1 is needed (and required by law now) most of the time.

The problem I'm facing at the moment is when I go to pick him up from his setting I'm being berated for the way he behaves and told I need to improve his behaviour, for example throwing things and him throwing himself on the floor is problematic for them.

There's nothing I can do at home that I'm not already doing and yes it's incredibly challenging sometimes. Of course it is. I'm on my knees with it sometimes.

They knew about all of this before I enrolled him. I explained exactly what problems we have and I chose this place specifically because they claim to have extensive knowledge about SN children and DS wouldn't cope in mainstream.

Today when I collected him she was going off on a tangent about how his behaviour needs to improve and how despite being predominantly non verbal he does understand what he's doing.

She wouldn't let me get a word in edgeways, i was spoken over when I tried to explain that 'standard' techniques just don't work for DS bevause he fits the PDA profile.

I asked her if she knew anything about PDA and she didn't, she asked me to send her some links Confused

I left the building feeling stressed and upset, like I'd just been told off.

I don't feel as though I'm directly responsible for his struggles and conduct when he's there as I'm already doing everything I should be, and then some. He's disabled for gods sake.

AIBU?

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Startingagainperson · 26/05/2021 20:07

From my perspective - this is a very bad nursery for SN children however by the sounds of it your child will be fine for the good school that you have in place later. The amount of tolerance that he shows, being able to tolerate sitting with others and take part in most things at the age of 3 is quite good for a child with demand avoidance.

He will still need good support, which the nursery don’t offer. However at age 3 there is no way on earth my son would be able to:
Sit still for anything, eat at a table, eat in front of others, participate in anything with other children, tolerate being with other children, use cutlery, let alone scrap it into a bin!

So I cannot see that they could possibly know how to handle a child with SN. Totally bonkers!

Hannah941 · 26/05/2021 21:27

@Startingagainperson

From my perspective - this is a very bad nursery for SN children however by the sounds of it your child will be fine for the good school that you have in place later. The amount of tolerance that he shows, being able to tolerate sitting with others and take part in most things at the age of 3 is quite good for a child with demand avoidance.

He will still need good support, which the nursery don’t offer. However at age 3 there is no way on earth my son would be able to:
Sit still for anything, eat at a table, eat in front of others, participate in anything with other children, tolerate being with other children, use cutlery, let alone scrap it into a bin!

So I cannot see that they could possibly know how to handle a child with SN. Totally bonkers!

Thank you, I'm starting to agree it's not the right provision for him.

He has made so much progress of the last year, I'm really proud of him. He's doing things I didn't think possible. At the moment it feels like they don't see any of that, just the unfavourable behaviours which are actually typical of children his age with his struggles.

They've broken up now for a week so I have some serious thinking to do.

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lazyarse123 · 26/05/2021 22:12

The manager said to me today "if we don't get on top of this then he'll have to be educated separately to all the other children" which I found bizarre. He isn't a monster / risk to life or limb, he's just a little boy with autism who needs supporting correctly.
This made me so sad. Poor kids already got so many challenges and she wants to isolate him too. If she's got enough staff to be able to do that then she's well placed to provide his 1 to 1.
I hope you soon get this sorted for your sake and your sons Flowers

Hannah941 · 26/05/2021 23:24

@lazyarse123

The manager said to me today "if we don't get on top of this then he'll have to be educated separately to all the other children" which I found bizarre. He isn't a monster / risk to life or limb, he's just a little boy with autism who needs supporting correctly. This made me so sad. Poor kids already got so many challenges and she wants to isolate him too. If she's got enough staff to be able to do that then she's well placed to provide his 1 to 1. I hope you soon get this sorted for your sake and your sons Flowers
Thank you, I feel so sad too. I've had a bit of a cry about it tonight. I always knew we'd come up against ignorance such is the nature of special needs parenting, I just didn't expect it would happen whilst he's this young and especially not from people claiming to be educated and educators of SEN Sad
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