To think Harry/Meghan are coming out of this worse than the Royal Family?

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Is it just me?

Cinclus
Constantly claiming there’s this cabal of nefarious posters is tiresome

There's been maybe ten or twelve posters who have no history on MN because of a NC, they post something personal and insulting. And NC back. For me, just this year.

Some detractors just loathe those that don't feel the same, and cannot help but troll.
No idea if they're on this thread, I don't want anything to do with them. If you haven't been at the end of this sort of thing, you obviously won't know about it.

Of course there are goady posters and trolls on mn, just report and get them deleted

I do.
But when they NC back, MNHQ have better things to do than to follow a trail.
I like reasonable discussion with everyone, but personal insults are not on.

'But when they NC back, MNHQ have better things to do than to follow a trail.'

Honestly they are really helpful and happy to get rid of trolls and goady posters ime. if I say for example 'this is a gf usually from reddit who is following me about just to goad' they quickly check their posting history under all previous names and zap them.

I'm with you, happy to debate robustly but won't put up with personal attacks.

I just remember how utterly sweet PC was on the wedding day. How lovely he was to Doria, how lovely to Megan, the present he gave her, the absolute effort he made.

It was very moving, wasn't it? And Harry apparently said "thanks, Pa" as they reached him. A lovely moment and sad that it's all gone horribly wrong for them.

Thank you, yes.

MN have been extremely helpful to me in the past. And thankfully they are quick to delete the unpleasant posts. I usually leave it to them as to whether the poster themselves need to be removed, maybe I must request that more than I have done.

@Roussette

Cinclus Constantly claiming there’s this cabal of nefarious posters is tiresome

There's been maybe ten or twelve posters who have no history on MN because of a NC, they post something personal and insulting. And NC back. For me, just this year.

Some detractors just loathe those that don't feel the same, and cannot help but troll.
No idea if they're on this thread, I don't want anything to do with them. If you haven't been at the end of this sort of thing, you obviously won't know about it.

You might be addressing Irma as you have quoted her, not me. But I'm not disputing that there are trolls, that people name change, that people are horrible to each other on MN. I would like Rainy to come up with some evidence to back up her accusations against people on this thread in particular.

@Blossomtoes

They simply invited him via phone/email rather than sending a paper invitation

The most formal expensive wedding imaginable for which invitation cards will be changing hands for £££ in a few years time and they invited the bride’s father by email/text as if it was a quiet drink in the pub? Not buying it.

But why would you invite someone who is due to be there anyway to give his daughter away? I doubt they sent out invitations to the bridesmaid or the best man either.

Of course they did, surely! We did!

@Roussette

Cinclus everything Rainy said about posters and trolling and NCing and all of that. It is so so true believe me. I've been at the sharp end of it for a long time. Rainy is not chucking out accusations at all

Not only is she chucking out accusations but she’s quite happy to call other posters liars because they don’t agree with her.

I know yesterday was a bad day for you @Roussette and I felt sorry for you but that was one poster. I name change occasionally because I have a tendency to be a bit indiscreet about my life, not to bamboozle anyone. After this thread, I feel another name change to another 70s band coming on!

I was team H&M for a long time. I thought Meghan could potentially be a real breath of fresh air for the RF, I was appalled at all the racist attacks on her, and I couldn't see any reason why they couldn't bow out and eff off abroad if they want to. I didn't believe what her family said about her and thought their behaviour was pretty dreadful, apart of course from her mother.

But the Oprah interview and their behaviour since has turned that on its head. All we seem to be hearing now is "Poor us" with some highly fictionalised accounts of why they are so persecuted - witness the latest bollocks about Harry never going out for bike rides with his parents - and an awful lot of it seems to be rooted in resentment that Daddy and the UK taxpayers aren't funding their expensive lifestyle.

But why would you invite someone who is due to be there anyway to give his daughter away? I doubt they sent out invitations to the bridesmaid or the best man either. There were no bridesmaids. Are you saying they didn't send invitations to the bridesmaids and pageboys as a lovely keepsake. Come off it.

Blossom
I know yesterday was a bad day for you @Roussette and I felt sorry for you but that was one poster

Thank you. But please understand that was just once. Yesterday. If only it were just that!

It was so much not an isolated incident, there have been countless occasions, I dread to think how many. Yesterday was unpleasant but manageable. Hey ho, onward and upward...

We sent invitations to everyone. Obviously my parents wanted one, they’d have been really upset if we hadn’t sent them one.

Thomas Markle thought he was invited for sure. Meghan told him he wouldn’t be able to do a father of the bride speech. So he thought he was going and they had enough communication to discuss some logistics of the day.

@HeyGirlHeyBoy

Of course they did, surely! We did!

Of course! I remember my best friend, who was involved in a reading saying to me 'you better send me an invite anyway!' of course I was going to. Anything else would be so rude.

I remember a friend, (for 20 years) told me excitedly, straight away on the 'phone, that she was getting married but as I was in Spain with very young DD I wouldn't be able to come? I replied possibly not, I'll check, I really want to come.

She never sent an invitation. So, I didn't go. We no longer speak.

**’This poll has over 1000 responses and almost 90% are tired of them. That might be skewed due to MN demographics.’

‘I was astonished by the poll.’**

I was surprised myself, admittedly. However, the poll suggests to me that the majority of the public have turned against M&H since the death of Prince Philip. Whatever opinions they might have had about him personally, they have sympathy for the Queen in particular, who is grieving the loss of her husband at the age of 95 and view H&M’s behaviour as distasteful.

I would echo some posters on here who have said that they’ve failed to ‘read the room’. It was a time for mending fences, or at least maintaining a dignified silence. Instead, they went on attacking the RF in TV interviews.

I’ve always liked H&M and I’m no particular fan of the RF (although I do have respect for the Queen). But

Oh dear, I didn’t mean to post just then. I was going to say that they’ve gone down in my estimation during the last few weeks. (Although I do accept that PH’s MH looks like it has deteriorated, which could explain his recent behaviour.)

Maybe Harry should reflect on the fact that his 'saintly' mother was not even in the same country as her children, gadding round Paris with a well known playboy, whilst pc was caring for him and his brother

Harry needs to look at all the interviews he has given in the last, the Ant and Dec one for example where he said his df was always available for support and advice.

He seems to have had some kind of amnesic episode and has rewritten history all since they were told 'no, you can't be LA celeb royals sorry'.

@a8mint

Maybe Harry should reflect on the fact that his 'saintly' mother was not even in the same country as her children, gadding round Paris with a well known playboy, whilst pc was caring for him and his brother

That is mean. The boys had just spent a week with Diana. How many divorced parents spend the whole of the school holidays together with their children? The children split their time with their parents.

Past*

@ajandjjmum

Just a personal comment - my opinion only - I have never seen Meghan speak without feeling that she is putting on a performance. Started at the engagement interview.

Same.

All she cared about was "Is he nice?"

Because of course.

Why didn’t Harry met his future father in law whilst they were past the just dating stage and in a serious relationship?
After all they managed fly Doria to the invictus games in Canada in 2017 so that Harry could met her and yet in the next 7 months before the wedding no similar meeting for him.
The whole thing including the wedding throws up some interesting questions.
Why did George clooney get an invite when he admitted he didn’t know them. Why was Oprah invited when she had only met Meghan two months before when she asked and was refused an interview (info given freely by Oprah when asked how and when she met the Sussex’s)

And yet no other member apart form Doria was invited. Not just from her fathers side but also from her mothers. Even if she didn’t get along with her half siblings from her father where were her relatives from her mother.

However, the poll suggests to me that the majority of the public have turned against M&H since the death of Prince Philip

I suspect it's been going on a bit longer than that, but it certainly won't have helped
You don't have to be a raging monarchist, or even respect the Queen's actual position at all, to feel for a 94 year old lady who's just lost her husband, and there are some things you just don't do ... nothing to do with high positions, just common humanity

Admittedly I took a bit of stick for it at the time, but this is why I felt Harry would have done better to stay away from the funeral - not because he wasn't entitled to come, but simply because it might have been the wiser choice
Either way, given what's been pouring out since, I do wonder what kind of reception he actually got

@a8mint

Maybe Harry should reflect on the fact that his 'saintly' mother was not even in the same country as her children, gadding round Paris with a well known playboy, whilst pc was caring for him and his brother

What else was she supposed to do when their father had access? Sit outside the gates of Balmoral and wave to them?