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To think Harry/Meghan are coming out of this worse than the Royal Family?

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Bassarid · 23/05/2021 06:01

Is it just me?

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amusedtodeath1 · 23/05/2021 15:31

Beatrice and Eugenie both live in the UK on Royal property where security is already operating which cuts down costs. They don't claim a wage from the state. They are grandchildren of the queen and any financial help come from their father.

H&M live in a different country, not on royal property, they currently don't get paid by the state either, any financial help Harry received would have been from his father.

The only difference in the way they're treated is They live in a different country and Harry has slagged off his Dad to the point where he refuses to give them any more money.

IrmaFayLear · 23/05/2021 15:33

Don’t talk garbage. They had a role here in the UK and could have lived a fine life.

But it was a life of opening community centres in Skegness on a Thursday in February, living in distinctly below-par Frogmore Cottage and having to trail behind William and Kate.

It did not suit. That is fine, then step back, live wherever, be supported modestly by Prince Charles and everyone will wish you well. But what has gone on is, in the words of Harry himself, “bonkers”.

milveycrohn · 23/05/2021 15:33

Lots of parents may support their children financially, but if I were such a child, I would not 'bite the hand that feeds me', knowing at anytime the financial support could be turned off.
The real problem is that P. Harry was not brought up to have any 'real' kind of job. P. William was a helicopter pilot and worked for Air Sea Rescue (OK, it may only have been part-time, or around his royal duries, but it was a job). However, without being Royal, Harry has no other income.
His deal with netflix is basically to use his Royal status in a way to make money (I am sure he would not have got the deal without being a Royal, etc).
Obviously, Harry and Meghan want to maintain a particular lifestyle, and may end up with loads more money than the Royals.
I don't blame them for that, but continually blasting his family, is somehow distateful. I had lots of sympathy for Meghan when her own family were continually blasting her, and thought eventually there will little left for them to say. And now, I do not like Harry doing it to his family either.
Families change over time; children grow older; marry; new in-laws, etc, and in time this will happen to Harry as well.

IrmaFayLear · 23/05/2021 15:33

The garbage was in reply to rainyday.

SueSaid · 23/05/2021 15:35

'Just sheer, unbridled hypocrisy. One rule for Harry. One rule for everyone else. Always.'

Finally @ohforarainyday you're seeing sense.

H can dish it out in bucketfuls but cannot take any scrutiny can he.
He can do tawdry tell alls but his father in law can't.

He needs to stfu, do some light shining and saving in LA and stop gossiping.

amusedtodeath1 · 23/05/2021 15:38

The only great grandchildren to get security is those in direct line to the throne. There's no bias there, all the children have security when at home.

There was no money for Meghan. Didn't she have an extortionately expensive wedding? I know they were given the option of Meghan to keep working, I'm assuming that there would have been an agreement that she would continue to act under her stage name and not use royal titles. For whatever reason they turned that down. That's not the same as saying we have no money for you Meghan.

derxa · 23/05/2021 15:40

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101kids · 23/05/2021 15:41

@JaniieJones

'Just sheer, unbridled hypocrisy. One rule for Harry. One rule for everyone else. Always.'

Finally @ohforarainyday you're seeing sense.

H can dish it out in bucketfuls but cannot take any scrutiny can he.
He can do tawdry tell alls but his father in law can't.

He needs to stfu, do some light shining and saving in LA and stop gossiping.

Yep
Cinclus · 23/05/2021 15:43

*So what? Lots of rich parents support their children financially.

Yet more hypocrisy. When it's Harry it's "LOL how dare a 30-something man live off his parents how pathetic and child-like Harry is grow the fuck up Harry it's embarassing to still be supported by your family!!" Please explain why it's embarassing, humiliating, immature, disgusting, pathetic, etc. etc. etc for Harry but perfectly fine and "so what" for other royals?*

Lots of rich parents support their children financially, lots do not. It's completely up to them what they do with their money. If you can't see "why it's embarassing, humiliating, immature, disgusting, pathetic, etc. etc. etc for Harry", one of the most privileged men in the world, with millions of his own money, to say he wants financial independence and then complain that his father is no longer bankrolling him then I don't know where to start really.

Cinclus · 23/05/2021 15:46

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amusedtodeath1 · 23/05/2021 15:47

Yeah, to what derxa posted. I won't quote it, bit I wanted to say that I hadn't heard any of those disgusting thing that have supposedly been said about MM. Whether you like her or not stuff like that shouldn't be repeated.

Blossomtoes · 23/05/2021 15:47

it became very apparent during lockdown that they don't really do much

It became very apparent during lockdown that a huge swathe of the population don't really do much. Apart from key workers we’ve had 14 months of incredible idleness.

Housewife2010 · 23/05/2021 15:51

@Blossomtoes

it became very apparent during lockdown that they don't really do much

It became very apparent during lockdown that a huge swathe of the population don't really do much. Apart from key workers we’ve had 14 months of incredible idleness.

Really? That may be true for you, but my husband isn't a keyworker and he's been regularly working 60 hour weeks during lockdown. Not all non key workers were furloughed.
LittleBearPad · 23/05/2021 15:55

@amusedtodeath1

Yeah, to what derxa posted. I won't quote it, bit I wanted to say that I hadn't heard any of those disgusting thing that have supposedly been said about MM. Whether you like her or not stuff like that shouldn't be repeated.
It wasn’t Derxa who first posted it.

Typically those or similar allegations are posted by people trying to get the thread deleted.

Cinclus · 23/05/2021 15:56

These posts are just getting weirder.

Archie never got security in the UK.
He's a baby who lived in a secure royal residence with parents who got security.

Harry and Meghan were told when they married that there was no money for Meghan and that she would have to continue working to support herself.

You don't know this.

The reason they had to leave was because they had to work to finance Archie's security and they weren't allowed to do that in the UK.

Oh please. Funny how they never mentioned that at the time. So all the reasons they gave for leaving are lies?

Besides the entire reason I brought up security costs is because posters were screeching about how Beatrice and Eugenie don't profit in any way from being royals and don't receive a penny of royal money. Yet funnily enough when I provide proof that's all nonsense, you lot immediately change the argument and start coming up with all sorts of reasons why, actually, it's totally fine for Beatrice and Eugenie to receive royal and taxpaper money.

They don't receive taxpayer money, they work and are financially supported by Andrew's / the RF's private money.

Blossomtoes · 23/05/2021 15:56

Besides the entire reason I brought up security costs is because posters were screeching about how Beatrice and Eugenie don't profit in any way from being royals and don't receive a penny of royal money

Except nobody said that, you were corrected when you said members of the royal family aren’t ALLOWED to work, it was then pointed out to you that four of the Queen’s grandchildren earn their own living. If there was an award for mental gymnastics, you’d win it hands down @ohforarainyday.

Did I mention your husband @Housewife2010? Is he “huge swathes of the population”?

halcyondays · 23/05/2021 15:57

When they got married H and M had more money between them, of their own, than most of us will ever see in our lifetimes. On top of this, they got money from the Government to carry out duties and a very generous allowance from PC. They had accommodation provided and renovations done for them. Then they decide they don’t want to do the boring bits and want to go off to earn megabucks , leaving the rest of the family to take on more work. Harry then is angry that his dad isn’t giving them any more money. Boo hoo, world tiniest violin plays etc.

amusedtodeath1 · 23/05/2021 15:58

I know that Little Bear, I just didn't word it right. I was agreeing with Derxa and condemning the original poster of that rubbish for repeating it. I'm assuming that the original post that contained that is deleted now.

Cinclus · 23/05/2021 15:59

Typically those or similar allegations are posted by people trying to get the thread deleted.

Yeah, funnily enough this time by a poster who likes to accuse people critical of the Sussexes of doing this.

IrmaFayLear · 23/05/2021 16:00

The game of reporting outrageous things that may have been said elsewhere is played by those seeking to get threads deleted.

amusedtodeath1 · 23/05/2021 16:04

SO, they had money both of them when they married, no mortgage beautiful home, paid work with the Firm, security and an allowance from Daddy

They quit, the salary goes away, they move, the security goes away, they piss off daddy and the allowance goes too.

I don't see how they're not in anyway responsible for their financial position tbh.

amusedtodeath1 · 23/05/2021 16:07

Why would anyone want to get this thread closed, it's one of the most sensible threads I've seen on here about M&H to be honest. They must be losing eh?

Cacacoisfarraige · 23/05/2021 16:07

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Cinclus · 23/05/2021 16:12

@Cacacoisfarraige

I do wonder if ‘no money’ was ‘the money the RF felt appropriate, which is far below she felt her worth and if she wanted that lifestyle she would have to fund the difference
Yes, she may have been a bit dismayed to discover that they are not as rich as she thought. What did Harry get from Charles, was it about £5M a year? Nice, but not in the league of the Clooneys / Obamas / Oprah / Gateses etc.
amusedtodeath1 · 23/05/2021 16:13

Jeesh! 5M a year, I could do an awful lot with that.

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