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It is me or the dog

159 replies

lockdownloopylalala · 22/05/2021 06:15

We have been together for nearly 2 years. The first year was great and it still can be now. When we are good we are really good, when we are not it is shit.
Through lockdown it has been hard. I had to work from home and he was doing shifts on site. For the most we worked round this. There was a clash as he was still continuing to see people at work, where I spent all week on my own, locked in 4 walls. We are both tired.
He moved in for the first lockdown. As part of this, we moved his dog in.
The dog- the dog is 17 years old, blind, deaf, has parkinsons, arthritis and while not incontinent, basically pisses wherever he wants at any time. It stinks-not just doggy smell, really old pungent dog smell.
I cannot handle that. I am not sure many people could. To have your kitchen soaked in urine and be constantly cleaning up. I tried nappies (the special dog ones) but just spent my day taking it off and on to allow him to go outside. At night it was saturated and the sofas where he slept also had to be washed daily. It was exhausting and couldnt go on. The final straw was when he went to attack me- this was shortly before he had a stroke, so I accept the aggression was part of that.
Over subsequent lockdowns we were able to form a bubble so OH stayed at home with the dog and we saw each other at the weekend.

Now it has reached a point that at the weekend he comes round for a few hours at a time, but has to go back to the dog every few hours. For example, he will come round late Friday night, stay the night, we are both up early I go shopping or out for a few hours while he spends time with the dog, I will pick him up at lunchtime, we have the afternoon, he goes back to the dog for an hour or 2, then comes back here to sleep. So this continues. In the few hours he is at my house I have to do his washing, ironing and cook for him, so I actually don't see him very much and am tired from it. I work all week and get no rest at the weekend.
I used to work in animal rescue and love animals. I am fully aware the dog is in a bad way and the kindest thing now would be euthanasia, but OH will not consider that. He clamps down and just says 'he is my mate' (like that is ok?). I cannot tell him to put the dog down as that is not my decision.
AIBU?
I feel I am being put 2nd place behind a dog. I feel rejected and like I have to compete for OH attention. I do everything to make OH life easier (hence the cooking, washing etc) but he treats it like a hotel. Even when here is sitting thinking of the dog so I have guilt I am taking him away from it (I dread the day the dog has nother stroke while OH is here. I will be guilted because he wasn't there).

This isn't normal behaviour.
AIBU?

OP posts:
lockdownloopylalala · 22/05/2021 18:32

While I will see the other side to the cleaning position, and accept this may be deeper than the dog, the dog does remain.

I am now totally confused as to what the Mumsnet community do for a living? Many dog owners leave their dogs to go to work. Not everyone can afford to sit around looking after an animal all day, and actually have to earn money. Not every dog has the luxury of 24/7 company. I have worked in rescue- people who think this should do the same and see what REAL cruelty looks like.
The dog is cared for. Not many would allow the dog to make so much mess, however the dog had been abused and was badly treated when it was younger. It has always been headstrong and badly trained. Whether I like the fact it pisses everywhere or not (and nobody else on here would put up with it, despite the protests otherwise), the dog itself is cared for. It has done well to get to 17. I am not regecting it for its age, I am saying I could not live like that. Even the most militant animal lover would struggle as some have said on here.
I do have a problem with the relationship and there is no time BECAUSE of the animal care, but that would frustrate a reasonable person.

OP posts:
Newkitchen123 · 22/05/2021 18:32

He arrives at 7pm and goes back to the dog at 7am. I don't care if he's been with the dog all day this is too long for a dog to be left! The dog needs a wee before bed! Old dog or not if he's left that long he's going to wee. I can't go 12 hours can you?
This is unacceptable. I've got an old dog and there's no way I would do this.
A fully grown man should be able to operate a washing machine and hang it up to dry. It doesn't matter that you don't mind. It matters that he can't seem to do it himself.
My house, with my elderly dog, is clean.
You clearly are someone who likes a clean house. He clearly isn't. Or he would have one. Having an old dog is irrelevant. If the dog wees, he can clean it up! Buy him a bottle of dettol!

Tehmina23 · 22/05/2021 18:38

Look... my dad is working class & lives alone too like your boyfriend.

But the difference is that his home is immaculate, he washes & irons his clothes, he cooks & cleans for himself.
Not all WC men are like your boyfriend honestly!

And 49 is actually quite young to be 'set in his ways'!

I'm just teaching my mum about online banking now and she's 72. She has Direct Debits too.
My Dad even has a banking app now.

Why are you scared to be alone? Think about that.
Personally I'm single & im only willing to have a boyfriend who enhances my life.
No way would I do his chores - unless we were actually married then we'd share housework equally.
As for only staying one night a week - I would want more intimacy than that from a boyfriend after 2 years.

Anyway it's your life, just dont waste it with a loser.

ThatIsMyPotato · 22/05/2021 18:47

He is resistant to change and living in the past, but this could be worked on? he's not a project, you can't change him into the person you want him to be

Motnight · 22/05/2021 18:57

He isn't kind. He's cruel to his dog and he gets you to do everything for him.

You've been with him less than 2 years. Over half has been in lockdown, with you saying that it's been hard. Honestly Op, cut your losses.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 22/05/2021 19:08

@Motnight

He isn't kind. He's cruel to his dog and he gets you to do everything for him.

You've been with him less than 2 years. Over half has been in lockdown, with you saying that it's been hard. Honestly Op, cut your losses.

Sorry OP but this.

He isn't kind, he does what is easier and less upsetting for him even if it isn't the right thing to do for people and animals he says he loves.

Our beautiful dog was 18 and the last year of his life we felt perpetually guilty as his quality of life faded and we probably made the final decision a week or two after when we should have, because we selfishly didn't want to let him go and held onto hope he would get a bit better. To do that when a dog is in as bad a state as your boyfriends is seems very cruel.

tulips27 · 22/05/2021 19:27

Since the dog is incontinent and that won't stop, I think the solution has to involve the incontinent dog staying at his house to stop you being upset about accidents in your home and to keep your place nice. I think it should be made clear to him that the house should be deep-cleaned and maintained for your relationship to continue. Him leaving the dog alone at his place is masking the true issue that his place is not fit to stay in, really, isn't it?

LittleOwl153 · 22/05/2021 20:10

If you take the dog out of the equation. Take your life 2, 3, maybe 5 years down track. Where do you think you will be - can you see that working with this man? That's the bottom line!

CandyLeBonBon · 22/05/2021 20:17

@lockdownloopylalala

Is it entirely possible that some women are ok with doing the chores? I am perfectly capable of DIY although still see it as a 'blue job'. I really enjoy cooking and cook from scratch. This is because I enjoy it. I actually dont mind ironing- I prefer my clothes ironed and folded in A4 to fit in drawers. That is the way I like it and that is OK. I did take on his washing and ironing, BUT i did not mind doing it. Certainly when he was living here. I do not like having a bag of it brought round with the expectation of having it done in the little time I see him. THAT I dont like. I may have inadvertently created this situation by trying to help.......but is that my fault or his?

Not everything has to be mumsnet PC. It is OK that I enjoy household chores (in my own time). I ask him to lift heavy things or scrub pans or do other jobs around the house.
It is OK to do something you enjoy whether it is a mans job, womans job, neither or both. It doesnt HAVE to have a name.

Mumsnet pc? Blue jobs? I think you need to check your internalised sexism?

And you don't enjoy him bringing round his bag of laundry - but you've encouraged that, so that's on you.

As a pp said, he's not your project. Stop trying to fix him.

Aprilwasverywet · 22/05/2021 20:20

A decent man wouldn't have his ddog living such a miserable existence...

Sadsiblingatsea · 22/05/2021 20:29

I just can't believe you volunteered at a dog rescue OP. You don't appear to have any sympathy with this poor 17 year old boy at all.

WineAcademy · 22/05/2021 20:31

Women who are happy to do a man's grunt work continually astonish me. Just- why? Why is this OK, and even welcomed? Why do you not want a functioning adult, an equal partner, someone who can actually keep their environment and clothing clean and sanitary? How is this in any way attractive?

Leave him be, and live in freedom for God's sake.

sowhatsnext · 22/05/2021 20:58

FFS OP. Get some respect and get yourself out of this “relationship”

You see him hardly ever and when you do he’s bringing his washing round to you as otherwise you don’t think it’ll get done properly. He’s lived in his Nans old house for years and by the sounds of it has never lifted a finger to clean etc.

The dog will sadly pass away soon and he’ll be left a smelly man in a smelly house. Just because he’s got no pride in himself doesn’t mean it’s down to you to to clean etc for him.

Just find someone who either is an adult or be alone - I guarantee it’s better than waiting for this guy to change - he won’t.

EarringsandLipstick · 22/05/2021 20:59

I genuinely do not want this man to be on his own, and hate the thought of it.

OP, what do you want for yourself?

It's not your job to look after him. You prioritise your own needs & a relationship should be about two people caring for each other.

What does he do for you?

It's not up to you to save this man 🤷🏻‍♀️

MouseInCatsClaws · 22/05/2021 21:07

I haven't RTFT but it seems clear to me that the problem is not the dog, it's the man. The dog will pass on soon, poor thing, but the problems with the man will remain.

WiddlinDiddlin · 22/05/2021 21:25

YANBU - he needs to do the right thing, leaving the dog for long hours whilst he is at yours is not acceptable, this dog needs company all day and night except for perhaps an hour here or there, theres a strong risk he's going to have another vestibular attack or fit or hurt himself and spend a whole night or half a day lying stuck in his own mess...

YABU not to support your OH through the decision to euth the dog though - it isn't easy, its a horrible decision to make. On the other hand it is also hard to support someone who won't listen and actually make the right choice!

Garlia · 22/05/2021 21:33

I genuinely do not want this man to be on his own, and hate the thought of it.

Please do not stay with him because you feel sorry for him, you cannot change him or help him.

You will continue to be drained and to recieve nothing back - this is really not what a healthy relationship looks like.

You may believe you're happy doing so much, but with your history it seems as though you're conditioned to provide care as a way of showing your love. It's unbalanced, he doesn't care how much he or is old dog affects you, he won't listen and he doesn't respect you. He is selfish.

Someone with robust self esteem and self worth would not continue this relationship Flowers

Garlia · 22/05/2021 21:39

He is resistant to change and living in the past, but this could be worked on.

To be blunt: no.

Just because he's 'nicer' than previous men in your relationships, doesn't mean he's good for you.

Please do explore the huge element of co-dependancy here, it's holding you back Flowers

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/05/2021 21:55

Yes, there were issues in childhood.

You poor love. Your radar for shittiness is all off. I'm really sorry about that. I assume you believe rescuing gives you worth you believe you lack. Sad

You need to believe a different truth. You're worth a good relationship without being a man's saviour and servant.

Taliskerskye · 22/05/2021 22:07

OMG
JUST LEAVE HIM ALREADY
why the fuck would you stay with this man!

FirewomanSam · 23/05/2021 09:23

Can keep a home clean tidy and in good repair-- not well, no but may need guidance? This can be sorted?

If you were talking about a 19 year old here I might say yes. At 49, though? He is living exactly as he wants to and is extremely unlikely to suddenly change because you teach him the basics of how to clean. If he wanted to live in a clean home, he would.

TheNoodlesIncident · 23/05/2021 13:20

It's such a shame OP, that you have had more genuine care and consideration from the posters on your thread than you have had from your relationships, and you can't see it.

This relationship is dysfunctional as well. You cannot change this man, you cannot "fix" him. What you can do is seek counselling and therapy to restore your belief in your own self worth so you can recognise what is a positive, healthy thing for you and what is not.

You deserve that much. You really do. You're clearly a compassionate and generous individual, you obviously care about the dog's welfare and have the sense of responsibility to see when it is in the dog's best interests to call it a night. You have so much worth and so much to give. But you need to be more discerning about who gets to be with you.

Mabelene · 23/05/2021 14:15

Not every dog gets left overnight for 12 hours plus, thank goodness

Scarlettpixie · 24/05/2021 12:53

He should not be leaving this poor dog for 12 hours overnight. No wonder he is pissing in the house.

Perhaps if the dog didn’t have no option but to piss in the house when left for ridiculously long periods he wouldn’t have ever got to the stage where he thinks it is ok.

People who are single and work long hours don’t (shouldn’t) get dogs. For those who do need to leave their dogs in the day some of the time, there are options such as dog walkers or doggie day care.

I don’t think anyone would think leaving an elderly dog overnight for 12 hours on a regular basis was ok. I couldn’t be with anyone who thought it was.

You say your DP isn’t angry but say he swore at you for being ‘middle class’?

If your DP wasn’t a slob and cleaned his house you could visit him and stay over there sometimes. He isn’t this way because he is working class 🙄

I am really not sure what he offers you OP. You say you don’t want him to be on his own but what do you want (other than for him to be something he isn’t).

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 24/05/2021 12:55

1 .stop being a martyr
2 .it's OK not to be a dog lover , it's not a crime. I can't stand pets and would never have one
3 re evaluate your relationship

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