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Identifying a pedophile to his neighbours

637 replies

Bipitybopityboop · 17/05/2021 23:20

If you found out, through work, that a pedophile was going to live on a certain street near you.
Would you anonymously let the neighbourhood know?

Would you want to know?

This could not be traced back to one individual.

OP posts:
theDudesmummy · 18/05/2021 09:45

Paedophiles cannot change their sexual prefences, no more than the rest of us can. But there are interventions and treatments which can decrease the risk of them acting on it.

EvenRosesHaveThorns · 18/05/2021 09:48

You should probably contact the police and tell them it's commonly known locally... they can decide to relocate or what is necessary

AlternativePerspective · 18/05/2021 09:48

This kind of thing scares me. Some 'peadophiles' have just downloaded illegal content, sometimes without even meaning to through file sharing software. It is a real problem now as the internet is largely unregulated. no that is simply not true.

But for starters, there needs to be a distinction between under age girls and child abuse images.

Under age girls could potentially be downloaded from a dodgy porn site, and while those are no more acceptable there is a difference between those and images of child abuse of pre-pubescent children which really don’t appear in any kind of mainstream downloads. To access those kinds of images you have to go to the dark web, and nobody goes to the dark web without knowing what they’re looking for.

We also need to redefine the word paedophile, because these days everyone who has engaged with a girl under the age of 16 is termed a paedophile when, although having sex with an under 16 does make you a sex offender, a paedophile is someone who is attracted to prepubescent children.

Naunet · 18/05/2021 09:49

Its really naive and ignorant to shout it around for the world to hear because like others have said it is safer that the authorities know where they are and can watch

Ahh yes, the authorities. Those same authorities that turned a blind eye to Jimmy Saville, grooming gangs in Rotherham, etc. Those wonderful authorities? And you call other people naive....

RoseRedRoseBlue · 18/05/2021 09:51

@Iminaglasscaseofemotion please re-read my post and stop cherry picking the bits that suit your dubious argument. I said “inclination to change”. Would you rather that professionals encouraged sex offenders to stay as they are then?

RoseRedRoseBlue · 18/05/2021 09:53

@Naunet by and large the authorities are doing a very good job under extreme conditions and with very little public support, as posts like yours illustrate.

LolaSmiles · 18/05/2021 09:54

This kind of thing scares me. Some 'peadophiles' have just downloaded illegal content, sometimes without even meaning to through file sharing software.
Bless them. It must be so hard accidentally stumbling on images of child abuse. They always stumble on them accidentally, don't they.
It's amazing that the vast majority of adults manage to use the Internet for hours a day without seeing images of child abuse.
Hmm

OP Don't use information found out through work to stir the pot. Let the relevant people do their job and report any concerns you have through appropriate channels, if you have any in due course.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 18/05/2021 09:55

@AlternativePerspective

@ Iminaglasscaseofemotion why do you think? Come on it ain’t that hard. Or do you think that there is good violence and bad violence?

Do you think the paedo beater isn’t also.a thug out having a punch-up on a Saturday night or a wife beater as well?

The kind of person who will kick the shit out of another human being is a type. They’re a violent thug who is no better than the paedophile they’re assaulting.

Ok
Naunet · 18/05/2021 09:55

@Naunet by and large the authorities are doing a very good job under extreme conditions and with very little public support, as posts like yours illustrate

Ahh yes, turning a blind eye is doing a great job 🙄

theDudesmummy · 18/05/2021 09:55

Some are able to change their behaviours. Some are not. As for any dysfunctional/undesirable/damaging behaviour based on underlying mental issues.

00100001 · 18/05/2021 09:56

@ConfusedAdultFemale

I would. Folk round here don’t tolerate dirty little cunts that need castrated. Been two of them run out of town that I know of, community would have ripped them apart if the police hadn’t moved them on.
What about the paedophiles that live in your town that you DON'T know of? They're around you RIGHT NOW. In fact the vigilantism lets those un-convicted paedophiles go under the radar, because you're all sitting there like smug twats going "no paedos here...we run them out of town" ...all the while going "Oh yeah, that's Sam, they're great! they're always popping round to help me out with odd jobs, the kids love them!" or "my kid went for a sleepover at their best friends house the other day, they had wicked time, parents sent us loads of photos of them chilling in the pool, watching a film, having a popcorn fight #MakingMemories" or letting their kid go to the park to meet a friend without checking... or giving the 10yo a phone and allowing them to have Snapchat/IG/Whatsapp because that's how kids communicate these days.... and unsupervised access to the internet.... letting them on their tablets in their bedrooms...

The real risk of abuse comes from a family member...a close friend... someone in a position of trust and/or authority in that child's life. Often the person the parent trusts, loves willingly gives access to their child. The "padeo on the street corner" is a risk, yes. obviously, but not as much as a risk as your husband, your brother, your uncle...

It gives people a false sense of security by having the vigilantes decide they know best how to deal with these people - it's essentially NIMBYism... where do these paedophiles go? Does it make them see the error of their ways? No it just fucking makes them go underground and under the radar...

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 18/05/2021 09:57

I didn't say I would condone the other crimes they commit (if they do),just that I don't care if a paedophile gets their head kicked in 🤷‍♀️. I'm not going to do it myself, but I wouldn't be rushing to their aid if someone else did. I would very much turn a blind eye.

IloveJKRowling · 18/05/2021 09:57

@HepLaurenceLB

Yes I would want to know and yes I would tell. Pedophiles do not deserve anonymity.
This and if they're a convicted paedophile then there's usually a news article about conviction. There is no law against sharing a news article you've found online and find interesting.

And I would absolutely want to know. Knowledge is power.

This happened near us - a man convicted of raping a 6 year old girl came to live with his sister right next to the local primary (that my DD attended). A lovely local Mum made sure we all knew.

My DD was of the age I was beginning to let her go and play in the field a bit further away with her friends or occasionally walk up the road with her friend on her own. Knowing there was a convicted paedophile put a stop to that.

HE RAPED A 6 YEAR OLD. He has no right to anonymity.

In the news report it was mentioned that the 6year old and her family had to move away, so devastated and ruined were their lives. He got to move back into his family home (right next to a school) after 15 years as if nothing had happened. I doubt that family will forget about it in 15 years.

No vigilantes stormed his house, he didn't get beaten up, there were no problems - and if that had happened it would have been a crime and the police could deal with it.The RISK that a crime might happen to a man who rapes children is enough to stop a lot of people from protecting children against rape seemingly.

What about the risk to children of being raped by this man if people don't know? Apparently the risk to him of a beating is far, far more important than the risk to children of rape.

When are children going to be more important than predators? Never, I guess.

Incidentally this man had a twitter profile with his picture - completely unrepentant obviously. Handy though as I could show it to my DD and said 'if this man ever tries to talk to you, run away and scream'.

DenisetheMenace · 18/05/2021 09:58

No.
If you decide to do so anyway I hope you are 100 per cent. sure of your facts.

Alternatively, if you aren’t that you can live with an innocent/the wrong person being harmed or worse.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 18/05/2021 09:59

I will point out at no point have I said I would spread that info around. I have seen the damage it causes to family and neighbours. I just don't care if people were to find out.

RoseRedRoseBlue · 18/05/2021 10:00

@Naunet, again, some context please.

theDudesmummy · 18/05/2021 10:01

Most people who commit child sex offences do not get convicted of them. You need to look after your children and help them to look after themselves regardless of whether you happen to know a convicted child sex offender lives nearby. That is the most important thing.

And actually whether the offender lives nearby or not is far less relevent in the era of the internet. You need to protect your children from the actions of people in America, Russia, France, Thailand, absolutely anywhere. Encouraging vigilante action in your close physical environment will do nothing to do that.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 18/05/2021 10:01

@theDudesmummy

It has been my job for many years to care about the well-being of violent offenders including sex offenders. So some people do, yes. If no-one did we would have a very unpleasant and far more dangerous society.
Well its not my job, so I don't.
GrumpyHoonMain · 18/05/2021 10:02

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@GrumpyHoonMain wouldn’t that information have been better shared with the Police?[/quote]
they did share it with the police - it was very much he’s low risk don’t worry. But he had been jailed for snatching and violently raping a 10 year old & was searchint for properties near schools.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 18/05/2021 10:03

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@Iminaglasscaseofemotion please re-read my post and stop cherry picking the bits that suit your dubious argument. I said “inclination to change”. Would you rather that professionals encouraged sex offenders to stay as they are then?[/quote]
They can want to change all they like, they don't.

theDudesmummy · 18/05/2021 10:03

That is obvious. And fine. I am just saying that there have to be some people whose job it is.

theDudesmummy · 18/05/2021 10:03

That was to @imagine

theDudesmummy · 18/05/2021 10:04

@imagine, yes, actually, some do (chnage their behaviour).

RoseRedRoseBlue · 18/05/2021 10:04

@Iminaglasscaseofemotion you need to re-read some of the posts from people on here who work in this field. Some sex offenders re-offend. Some don’t.

Naunet · 18/05/2021 10:05

@Naunet, again, some context please

So you want us to ignore the many massive, massive failures the police have made over the years, and continue to make, that have resulted in many children being raped and abused, and just look at the good stories where the police did their job? Nope, I expect better. Thousands of children having their lives ruined because the police didn’t want to get involved, is not acceptable collateral damage to me, maybe it is to you? But then you seem to have far more empathy with the police and child abusers than you do for the actual victims.