Identifying a pedophile to his neighbours

[Bipitybopityboop]

If you found out, through work, that a pedophile was going to live on a certain street near you.
Would you anonymously let the neighbourhood know?

Would you want to know?

This could not be traced back to one individual.

I would be interested to know what the people attacking me and @RoseRedRoseBlue on here would see as a solution for the fact that some human beings are dangerous to others in various ways? A reasoned argument on approaches different to and superior to what we already do would be welcome. Our system is unbelievably flawed, and a proper debate on what to do to improve it is always a good thing.

@theDudesmummy

Oh vigilante-type actions relaly do occur. maybe not always a baying mob. But, as has been mentioned upthread, things like graffiti, threats open and veiled, shunning, isolating, jeering, low level assaults, higher level assaults, etc etc. None of which helps to decrease reoffending risk and may increase it.

I don’t understand how all this makes a paedophile reoffend? I have heard this information elsewhere but it makes no sense to me at all, they reoffend because they are attracted to kids and blaming others on their reoffending just shows that they aren’t willing to accept that they are the issue, not the locals who find out and rightly so, want to cause them issues.

@Naunet, blaming me or labelling me part of the problem is way, way off track. You have no idea how I work, do my job or manage people

I have zero interest in how you do your job, my comments are based on your posts.

I’m really not able to listen to yet another person act like the people who have actually been through this aren’t worth listening to, so I’ll leave this thread now.

@GrumpyHoonMain show me a post where I have minimised anything. You won’t find one.

[quote Pinchoftums]@AnyFucker would you say nothing of they lived next door to your friends kids or your nieces or nephews. I honestly don't think I could.[/quote]
Exactly.

Once again, child sex offending and paedophilia are NOT the same thing. Some paedophiles offend, some (probably the vast majority, but how can we know?) don't. Some child sex offenders are paedophiles, some aren't.

@HepLaurenceLB

Yes I would want to know and yes I would tell. Pedophiles do not deserve anonymity.

Right, and what if they abused another kid in the area because someone didn’t know, I would feel incredibly guilty that I had known and said nothing.

Paedophiles don’t deserve a nice quiet life ever.

[quote theDudesmummy]@imagine, yes, actually, some do (chnage their behaviour).[/quote]
Their behaviour, maybe. Their thoughts, never. That's enough for me.

Yes. Without a question

@theDudesmummy this post is a prime example of the difficulties caused by a lack of reasonable public conversation and a populist Government. Any attempt to present a different view labels you some some sort of apologist or sympathiser. You are told you have no empathy, you are told you have no compassion. It’s doesn’t occur to anyone that you too might have personal experiences of abuse or similar.

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]**@theDudesmummy* whatever you say, Iminaglasscase* is going to attack you. It doesn’t matter if you talk of experience, facts or evidence.[/quote]
Yeah, I'm attacking 🙄

Isn't viewing child abuse images/videos offending and actively engaging in the abuse of children tho? Personally, it wouldn't be of much comfort to me that someone was a mere voyeur of child sexual abuse but did not carry out the act. But I think it's great that some people are willing to try and understand these people so the likelihood of them reoffending or causing harm is reduced. I would feel better if they disappeared off the face of the earth altogether but not at the hands of vigilante justice.

@YukoandHiro

This is a red herring. Given the upsetting extent of child sex abuse in this country there's someone on almost every street...

No I wouldn't say anything. Concentrate your efforts on making all children and young people in your life are able to advocate for themselves, have adults they can trust to talk to and use the proper terms to describe their bodies (eg vulva, anus, penis).

I agree with @YukoandHiro

It is tempting I agree (as an CSA survivor myself) to expose a danger.
BUT it is everywhere so that is like putting your finger in a dam in terms of effectiveness. That's the really frightening reality.
(my personal experience is that 'the authorities' are pretty flawed too)

ALL any of us can do is work with young people in our lives to make sure they have the words and opportunities to tell if they are affected.

@lulupooh

Isn't viewing child abuse images/videos offending and actively engaging in the abuse of children tho? Personally, it wouldn't be of much comfort to me that someone was a mere voyeur of child sexual abuse but did not carry out the act. But I think it's great that some people are willing to try and understand these people so the likelihood of them reoffending or causing harm is reduced. I would feel better if they disappeared off the face of the earth altogether but not at the hands of vigilante justice.

The paedos that watch it yet never do anything to harm kids are called non-offending paedos or they were on a documentary about it that I watched on YT a few years ago.

@Iminaglasscaseofemotion I thought you were leaving?

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@theDudesmummy this post is a prime example of the difficulties caused by a lack of reasonable public conversation and a populist Government. Any attempt to present a different view labels you some some sort of apologist or sympathiser. You are told you have no empathy, you are told you have no compassion. It’s doesn’t occur to anyone that you too might have personal experiences of abuse or similar.[/quote]
You can have as much sympathy for paedophiles as you like, I'm not sure why it bothers you so much that I don't have an ounce of sympathy or compassion for them.

Also, probably the vast majority of people who commit child sex offences actually get convicted and so become officially "child sex offenders". The point is that you have no idea who in your vicinity (or on your child's instagram) has either paedophilia or has committed child sex offences, and could never know, even if they published a list every day of all known offenders.

So, you need to assume "they" are there whether you know it or not. Look after your children carefully when they are small, as they get older listen to them and teach them to be aware and speak up. That is what to do, not try to take justice into your own hands when you don't have the tools to do it effectively.

I don’t understand how all this makes a paedophile reoffend? I have heard this information elsewhere but it makes no sense to me at all, they reoffend because they are attracted to kids and blaming others on their reoffending just shows that they aren’t willing to accept that they are the issue, not the locals who find out and rightly so, want to cause them issues. it drives them underground which means they are less detectable, and as such if they reoffend they are less likely to be picked up before it’s too late.

@AlternativePerspective

I don’t understand how all this makes a paedophile reoffend? I have heard this information elsewhere but it makes no sense to me at all, they reoffend because they are attracted to kids and blaming others on their reoffending just shows that they aren’t willing to accept that they are the issue, not the locals who find out and rightly so, want to cause them issues. it drives them underground which means they are less detectable, and as such if they reoffend they are less likely to be picked up before it’s too late.

Mmm isn’t that just an excuse though? I don’t work with these types of people or anythjng like that but from what I’ve read, then paedophiles that harm kids never rehabilitate.

@MissScotland101 viewing child abuse imagry IS an offence (both in Scotland, and England and Wales), they are not called "non-offending paedos".

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@Iminaglasscaseofemotion I thought you were leaving?[/quote]
Well I keep getting notifications so as rage inducing as I find this thread, I am intrigued to read the opinions of people that sympathise with child abusers (your words)

@LolaSmiles

IloveJKRowling There's a huge difference between sharing information you have found out at work, and sharing a news article with information in the public domain. If the OP doesn't understand the difference then I'd question whether she should be doing a job that gives her access to sensitive information.

My point is she may have found out about it at work, but if there's a news article in the public domain, she can obviously share that.

No-one needs to know how she happened upon that news article.

[quote theDudesmummy]@MissScotland101 viewing child abuse imagry IS an offence (both in Scotland, and England and Wales), they are not called "non-offending paedos".[/quote]
Yes I know but there is such a thing, it was an Australian documentary and non offending (meaning they don’t harm kids directly) paedophiles was what the program was calling them.

I totally agree though that viewing these images is horrendous.

@MissScotland101 as I have already said, some paedophiles can be enabled to change their behaviours, whatever you may have read (read where?).

And if convicted, there will be something in the public domain she can share.

Obviously if not convicted, she shouldn't share the information.