Identifying a pedophile to his neighbours

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If you found out, through work, that a pedophile was going to live on a certain street near you.
Would you anonymously let the neighbourhood know?

Would you want to know?

This could not be traced back to one individual.

@Iminaglasscaseofemotion as I said to someone else upthread, show me a post where I have displayed sympathy towards a paedophile. You won’t find one.

It is illegal in all states of Austrailia too

[quote theDudesmummy]@MissScotland101 as I have already said, some paedophiles can be enabled to change their behaviours, whatever you may have read (read where?).[/quote]
Over the years I’ve read this many times, can’t remember my sources but I’m also sure that Emma Kenney, the psychologist that’s on many crime shows, says so too.

I just don’t believe your attraction can ever be changed, I am attracted to men and this won’t change so I see it the same for paedophiles.

No I wouldn’t
Even someone convicted of that crime has a right to live and right of privacy
Shit like you’re proposing doesn’t help anyone and just stirs up fear and stupidity

To the person up the thread then the program I watched was about virtuous paedophiles, those are the ones that watch child abuse and they were the ones that had self control.

There was a man in the program who was saying he wanted help for watching the images but there was no such help, or not enough, this was in Australia and his face was blurred out.

But OP has clearly said this is CONVICTED paedophile - so IMO she absolutely has a responsibility to the children in her community to share the public domain info, which will be there.

Everyone should have a responsibility for child safeguarding. Parents have a legal duty towards their children.

I am totally shocked how many people think making a rapists life easier is more important than child safeguarding.

As I said, in my case the child rapist had a twitter account with a picture (matching his mug shot from when he went down) which was handy and he clearly didn't feel the need to hide.

I personally believe that for this child rapist, being able to show my child his face and say never, ever engage with this person is better than any amount of other safety training. One less paedophile to worry about is a win, I'd say. Saying 'oh there are loads of them so you might as well not bother' isn't really a great argument.

Plus every other parent at that school now knows what he looks like so can ask him why he's hanging around the playground knowing that he is NOT the parent / grandparent of any child there.

Otherwise we'd probably all assume that he was related to a child or something.

I cannot believe someone has just put a paedophile, and someone wanting to beat a paedophile in the same bracket. What the fuck is wrong with people. Paedophiles deserve to be tortured and strung up with barbed wire! They should lose every right of anonymity too! so you think the vigilante is what? A fine upstanding citizen? Does beating up a paedophile mean that when he beats up his wife and kids or the bloke in the pub down the road should be excused because he “showed that paedo”?

What if he kills the paedophile, does that make him a hero rather than a murderer?

Violence is violence. It isn’t the case that some violence is ok because of who it was perpetrated against. If you viciously assault someone then you viciously assault someone, regardless of who they are.

The majority of paedophiles who are beaten up in prison are beaten up by prisoners serving sentences for violent crime. Rape, murder etc.

People are so blinded by the term “paedophile” that they fail to see that it’s still wrong to beat one up, regardless of what he’s done.

@MissScotland101 I don't mean to be rude but I think I can state that I have probably more actual expertise and experience than Emma Kenney in this field. Having said that, you be able to change what/who someone is sexually attracted to (cf "gay therapy" etc), but some people can be helped to change their behaviour and so decrease their risk of reoffending. This is objective fact.

Well, also to add that some therapies do involve removing any sexual attarction or feelings at all, so I suppose you could call that changing the sexual attraction.

How can you be sure? What about that poor doctor who was targeted because she was a pediatrician and someone had just got mixed up?

There was no graffiti, no-one abused this man, there were no beatings. Everyone just avoided him and educated their kids about him

Was avoiding him mean?.

Or should we have been inviting him to our kids parties?

WTAF on this thread.

In New York, you can look up all registered sex offenders in your neighbourhood. It's terrifying. There were like 10 on my block. I don't know why this isn't public information here? Figured it would be.

Damn typing too fast. Should have said You WON'T be able to change...

I think actually having the information about him made any violence less likely - also less likely he'd have an opportunity to reoffend.

If he'd raped another child, and then the local Dads found out - and found out they hadn't been informed he was living there when previously convicted - well then you might have a problem.

Surely preventing him reoffending reduces the risk of any kind of crime / violence?

I cannot see how having this information is bad.

The vast, VAST majority of children are sexually abused by people in their own house, not a stranger or the creepy guy down the street. And if that creepy guy down the street IS a convicted pedo it will almost certainly have been his own children, stepchildren, or other people in his close family circle who he offended against. So take all this time and energy to keep an eye on the men you know- the real risk to your children- instead of being distracted.

Well there is a problem here.

Centre the male paedophile and keep him safe and risk the safety of any children a round him. Someone upthread said the worst case scenario is someone gets falsely accused or even killed. I've thought of another very bad scenario, more children are violated and harmed causing life long trauma.

So basically, Parents need to keep an eye on their kids at all times because there are paedophiles amongst us.

And I don't trust the authorities do to the right thing. Systems fail.

@kittycat863

In New York, you can look up all registered sex offenders in your neighbourhood. It's terrifying. There were like 10 on my block. I don't know why this isn't public information here? Figured it would be.

It should be, absolutely and I think if it was info available to all parents the risk of vigilante action would be less.

The fact parents find it difficult in this country to get this information and safeguard their children makes people angry, which can lead to violence and relying on hearsay (which is when innocent people are incorrectly targeted).

Having good quality access to information on convicted offenders would be far better.

“Emma Kenny says....” 😂😂😂

It’s a tricky one - I feel if someone has served their time, reflected and has their self ‘in check’ be that through some form of support, I would not want to know.

I obviously find paedophilia completely abhorrent as a Mother/woman and have recently discovered my neighbour (65 yr old working man, pleasant, long term partner, many friends) was convicted back in 2003 for inappropriate sexual behaviour with several girls aged 11-13 and served an 18 month sentence - the crimes were committed in the 1980s - the newspaper article says he was remorseful but swore the girls to secrecy at the time and it only came to light years later because the girls had become women and were damaged.

You google his name and all the details are there - as a neighbourhood we are all shocked but continue normal niceties with him - his partner is a lovely woman but I have lived next to him for 8 years with DD14 and DD19 and my other neighbour has 3 young girls - he has not at any time been inappropriate.

Of course I will now have quite a different opinion of him and his wife - but I do not live in fear that he will do anything - it’s taught me that you think you know people but you bloody don’t!

@KingdomScrolls

I know where thousands of sex offenders are due to my job, no I don't tell anyone. There is one policing agency in this country and vigilante behaviour isn't helpful to anyone.

Agree, but it is still depressing that you know that there are literally thousands of people who put their own needs for sexual gratification and power over the welfare and protection of children and have to be a part of a society where this is common place.

It must be hard to trust anyone when you are privy to this information. We brought up are children to be aware but not paranoid and to be absolutely sure that they could tell us anything about anyone, family, authority, friends, etc who made them uncomfortable.
And crucial for daughters in particular, always, always trust your instincts with men. If it doesn't feel right don't let anyone tell you otherwise. As a parent if it doesn't feel right then trust your feelings.

It always eventually comes out that your instincts are correct.

But nobody can use information not in the public domain to out any offender. It is something we have to put up with to manage these situations. We have to let the proper agencies deal with this.

@AlternativePerspective 😳
Why the fuck would you assume those who'd hit a paedophile would automatically hit their wives?
My DP is a kind, wonderful man who treats me and everyone else with such respect, couldn't be further from a thug, would help anyone who asked for it.... except a paedophile. He'd give them a good hiding instead. You are massively weird linking those things together.

The only thing I don't particularly agree with are the actual vigilante teams who record everything and set people up for social media, the only reason being it could affect an ongoing case and offer the pedos some immunity in court etc.

@RoseRedRoseBlue

“Emma Kenny says....” 😂😂😂

Why is that funny?! She knows more than you about such things

There’s an awful lot of re-writing going on on this thread.

Somehow people who are not in favour of mob violence against paedophiles are paedophile sympathisers. [hmm[

Thing is we live in the real world. In an ideal world certain criminals would never again be released into society, but fact is, they are. And another fact is that condoning mob justice is the slippery slope to a lawless society.

Where does it end? A mob go round and beat up the local paedo and receive a hero’s welcome for doing so. So next time they go out and beat up the local wife beater and maybe they receive the same.

But the time after that they hear that their mate’s 15 year old son is being a bit too friendly to his daughter, so given it’s their place to take the law into their own hands they pop round and beat the shit out of him as well.

Are they still heroes?

It’s entirely possible to acknowledge that paedophiles need to be managed and that there need to be different Punishments/ways to supervise them but at the same time to acknowledge that mob violence isn’t the way to do it, because to the types who go out and beat up the paedophile it’s just another ruck on a Saturday night. They’re not picky about who ends up at the end of their violence, but by occasionally beating up the local paedo means that people are more likely to turn a blind eye when they’re beating up people in the pub on a Saturday night, or going to the local football match for a punch-up. After all, they saw that paedo off so they’re alright really aren’t they?

@IloveJKRowling of course there is a chance that neighbours knowing about a child sex offender's conviction will have a positive effect on risk, in that they will be careful about who he is able to have access to etc, sure.

But this is only one part of the risk management equation. It may be counterbalanced by negative effects which increase risk, including vigilante and other behaviours causing the offender to be less easy to monitor and less likely to stay in one place or access support/treatment. It is a complex risk assesment exercise, which, despite terrible failures of "authorities" in the past, is on balance better left to professionals rather than the inhabitants of the neighbourhood.

This combined with the risks of everyone focusing on a single potential offender while possibly downplaying/ignoring the risks that may be posed by others who are not "on the radar", is enough for me to say that my assessment of risks will in almost every such case come down on the side of less public interest in the offender.

[quote theDudesmummy]@MissScotland101 I don't mean to be rude but I think I can state that I have probably more actual expertise and experience than Emma Kenney in this field. Having said that, you be able to change what/who someone is sexually attracted to (cf "gay therapy" etc), but some people can be helped to change their behaviour and so decrease their risk of reoffending. This is objective fact.

Well, also to add that some therapies do involve removing any sexual attarction or feelings at all, so I suppose you could call that changing the sexual attraction.[/quote]
It just doesn’t make sense to me that someone could change what they were into.

These paedophiles should just off themselves imo.

I take my hat off to the folks like yourself that do work with these sick bastards, someone has to but I can’t imagine what that does to your mind.

The OP didn't mention mob violence - there is absolutely no evidence that if she provided public info about this convicted child sex offender to parents anyone would be violent.

I can't believe it.

You're all willing to make children less safe against a known risk (CONVICTED) because of a 'maybe'.

In my direct experience of this no violence or 'mob' happened. But we all made our children safer.

As I said before I think mob violence is LESS likely if people are informed and feel they can take steps to make their children safer.

When people get angry and violent is when they've been deceived and children get hurt.