I want neighbours like the people that surrounded that van in Glasgow

[flashbac]

These people are legends. This was the tonic I needed:

twitter.com/ClareHymer/status/1392884673634836486?s=19

This is not about promoting lawlessness. Dawn raids are barbaric and it was EID.

Where did the word weegies come from? I've never heard it outside mn. Mind you, theres loads ive never heard outside mn.

Weegies - short for Glaswegians

I know. But ive never heard a glaswegian saying it.

You'll hear Edinbuggers saying it 😂

The men may have failed asylum / immigration claims (note - not criminal) but they can only be placed under immigration detention if there is a realistic prospect of removal, taking place in a reasonable time frame. Which seems unlikely due to the covid19 situation (generally and in India). Unfortunately in the long run they may not be able to stay.

I do feel its a deliberate show of power on the part of the home office that it's the day the Scottish parliament is being sworn in, in nicolas constituency, on Eid (even though these men are not Muslim, think about the message the home office is trying to send).

The controversy is in the role police Scotland took in enforcing (asylum and immigration a reserved power, policing devolved)

Whilst it may not keep them in scotland long term, I believe the locals acted brilliantly in standing up against a practice (raids) they feel is unjust, which sets up immigrants and asylum seekers as if criminals

I do feel its a deliberate show of power on the part of the home office that it's the day the Scottish parliament is being sworn in, in nicolas constituency, on Eid (even though these men are not Muslim, think about the message the home office is trying to send)

Exactly

Mind you, theres loads ive never heard outside mn

They need to install penguin bollards against the immigration vans next time.

Thank you lovely Glaswegians

Sorry absolutely right to round up lawless illegal immigrants to be deported. Wokery of the highest order those stopping the officers doing their jobs. At last the immigration service need to enforce border controls. And at least they know where they are and will be back.

Sorry absolutely right to round up lawless illegal immigrants to be deported.

Sorry, did you not see they've been there for 10 years? They are members of the community and are going through their legal right of appeal.

Besides, 'round up'. Humans you're talking about, not a herd of cattle.

Sorry absolutely right to round up lawless illegal immigrants to be deported
The protest was against the UK border force tactics. It isn't how Glaswegians want illegal immigrants dealt with. This is a matter that didn't require the drama, if someone who has been living here over ten years has the right or wrong bit of paper there are other ways to deal with it.

@Whoarethewho

Except they are not lawless illegal immigrants. They are asylum seekers who have gone through the correct legal processes and been thwarted by the “hostile environment” of the Home Office under Priti Patel.

They are an asset to Scotland and their local community who want them to stay.

But Priti says no, for political reasons, not because there is any fair reason why they cannot stay.

@ssd

Glasgow is like that *@flashbac* You have so many decent people here who will stand up for others. And dont look down on others or patronize each other. Scotland is a very socialist country. We rejected brexit by a big majority. And we'll never have a tory right wing government. We do need a decent opposition right enough, and i say that as a yes voter. A lot of us would like independence as we see the westminster Johnson Government as totally alien to everything we believe in. Of course like everywhere else we have poverty and a real desperate under class. Theres always been less jobs up here than anywhere ive lived in England. And housing is desperate in some areas as people bought council houses to line their pockets and now young people and families cant get decent housing. And of course we have the blight of sectarianism. This weekend will see gatherings of football fans with little police resistance, if its anything like last time. But on the whole, its a decent place to live.

Totally agree! I'm from the east of Scotland not Glasgow but we all seem to have a different outlook on these things to the south of the border , not sure why really, but I'm glad we do

@winched - well said 👏👏👏👏

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Girls_(activists)

Link above might be of interest to some of you, I found out about this whilst down a Google hole about immigration.

Whoarethewho they are asylum seekers working through the process, not illegal immigrants.
You're a nasty piece aren't you.

Well done Glasgow folk! Very proud.

@nickymanchester

The point is just that the timing was particularly insensitive (at best; quite possibly it was deliberate).

As I understand it, the men detained were not even muslim so why should the fact that it coincided with eid be of any relevance?

Saw a good explanation on Twitter earlier when somebody asked the same thing - can't remember exact words but basically said it's like something like that happening on Christmas Day to your neighbours. Even if you're not that religion yourself, you all go out there and help taking away time with your families

Jings ! I didn't realise my son and his girlfriend were disenfranchised ,(PP). Thought they had a nice wee life cos they were there and it's their area. It's actually quite a mixed area and has a great sense of community . There's so many different languages and nationalities there and it has been like this for about 100 odd years since the Irish and Jews came . People get on with each other and live side by side . The nastiest neighbours I ever was in a private let in a "posh estate". I am so homesick right now . Been away for three years cos of jobs but I want ta come hame !😢❤️

Thanks, ArnoldJudasRimmer, will do . He's good wee guy and said it was some atmosphere . No violence whatsoever . Just a sense of helping our "ain"(own)

They are an asset to Scotland and their local community who want them to stay. Ah, they’re nice. Well in that case, let’s open our borders to the world with the caveat that if they do a bit of volunteering and manage to keep their heads down for a decade or so, then they can stay.

I do feel its a deliberate show of power on the part of the home office that it's the day the Scottish parliament is being sworn in, in nicolas constituency, on Eid (even though these men are not Muslim, think about the message the home office is trying to send). Seriously? You think Priti got one of her minions to ring the local immigration office and instruct them to get out and cause the maximum amount of upset possible? Or do you think the tax payer should have been paying immigration to sit on their bums all day so that it didn’t clash with any prior political engagements? And does anyone seriously think that the government are going to pay immigration officers to stay in their offices twiddling their thumbs on religious holidays in case they interrupt anyone’s plans for the period? Or that they have the time to sit down and say ‘we can’t detain person A on Wednesday because it’s a day of significance for their faith, but we can detain person B because their celebrations have just finished?

Every country in the world has an immigration policy. You might not like it or agree with it, but it’s done on what immigration laws have been broken and whether a person has any legal basis of stay. Not whether they’re a generally decent person.

Except they are not lawless illegal immigrants. They are asylum seekers who have gone through the correct legal processes and been thwarted by the “hostile environment” of the Home Office under Priti Patel. I know nothing about these two men but if they claim asylum then there are only two outcomes. They either get refugee status or they don’t. So if they haven’t been granted refugee status and they’ve been through the appeals process, then they have to go back to their home country. It’s how it works. It’s how it has always worked. They haven’t been thwarted by anyone or anything and it’s nothing to do with any ‘hostile environment’.

@Sn0tnose

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THE APPEALS PROCESS! They are currently going through it!

They are an asset to Scotland and their local community who want them to stay.Ah, they’re nice. Well in that case, let’s open our borders to the world with the caveat that if they do a bit of volunteering and manage to keep their heads down for a decade or so, then they can stay.

Serious question, why not?

Statement from the Glasgow No Evictions Network who seemed to organise much of the numbers of protestors.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THE APPEALS PROCESS! They are currently going through it! How do you know? The Home Office never comments on individual cases. Every report I’ve seen says they were detained on suspicion of suspected immigration offences. One of the men was interviewed by the BBC and said he was glad to be free and his lawyer said she hadn’t had time to read through all his paperwork yet. There’s nothing to say they’ve even claimed asylum or applied for any other type of leave. So what have you seen that makes you think that immigration have swept in and tried to detain them halfway through an ongoing appeal?

They are an asset to Scotland and their local community who want them to stay.Ah, they’re nice. Well in that case, let’s open our borders to the world with the caveat that if they do a bit of volunteering and manage to keep their heads down for a decade or so, then they can stay.

Serious question, why not? The first reasons to spring to mind are it being much easier for criminals involved in people trafficking, large numbers of unskilled workers costing the economy more than they’re paying in taxes, highly skilled workers leaving etc.

@winched, your post... spot on. Greetin at the goodness of people; weeping at the inhumanity.