To be irritated by people wanting a foreign holiday this summer?

[Irishterrier]

I know some people have family abroad and that is different.

However I know several people who either have second homes abroad or just fancy some sun, and I feel annoyed by them agitating about wanting to go abroad this summer.

AIBU to think they're being selfish?

Because foreign travel is worth £91 billion to this country and employs 2.4 million people.

With the best will in the world, a family of four’s week in a caravan in Cornwall isn’t going to bring in this much to the economy and the government know this. It didn’t last year and it won’t this.

We have a second home abroad. Sadly not in a sunny place but on the Atlantic coast of Ireland. We haven't been there in 18 months and I'm desperate to get there just to maintain it.18 months unattended on a rain lashed cliff won't have done it any good at all (although a neighbour has been checking on it and assures us it hasn't blown away). I also want to see our local friends and family and support local businesses that have had a tough time. Sun and sand holidays can wait another year or two.

Our mortgage depends on this industry, so I have a different perspective.

If it can be done safely, please God let's do it. So many jobs are hanging in the balance.

I really hope we don’t open our country to tourists again too soon. There will be plenty of people from here holidaying in the Uk to keep it going.

We've cancelled our holiday to Greece again this year because there are too many hoops to jump through and I wouldn't be able to relax for a minute. I don't feel virtuous. I'm gutted. I may not be a keyworker but I too have worked right through with only a week's leave (spent at home in the pissing rain) in the last year. I bloody deserved that holiday.

Would you normally go abroad OP?

The problem is that Covid isn’t going away is it? We are going to have to learn to live with it to a certain degree regardless of vaccinations and boosters.

@Plumedenom

The trouble is it's not nuanced. Frankly in a week I will have actually had and survived covìd, I'll have antibodies and for at least six months when I'm freed I'll be no risk to anyone! And yet still I will need a negative test to board a plane. The fact I have a certificate to say I had it last week and I'm recovered means nothing unless I test negative two days before the flight! That's not nuanced!

My point was that the OP's opening post allows no light and shade. Not your point at all.

@pinkscrunchy I don't begrudge people visiting their family. I begrudge people swanning off on holiday during a pandemic when people such as myself are forgoing visiting family so we don't potentially pass on covid to someone's granny and they die.

Yes, it was my choice to live abroad. I made the choice in a modern age where not many things stop me flying back a couple times a year. I'm afraid I didn't look into my crystal ball when making my choice to live abroad and see that there was a global pandemic coming in 2020!
What a bizarre and insensitive thing to say. It's a good thing bitchy comments online make me laugh instead of put me down!

Thanks @Mrsdarwin 😊

@Pastanred

Because honestly the uk may be fine with toddlers and young kids but for families with teens it’s shit

It’s wet

It’s boring! I’d rather not go away than holiday in the UK

honestly? It's not fine either

It's probably even worst!

I don't care what other people prefer, it's a free country, but I can't stand the bloody "staycation" nonsense.

maybe consider how you could help the UK economy by holidaying at home instead.

Guess you've not read any of the threads with people struggling to find UK accommodation for the school holidays?

I begrudge people swanning off on holiday during a pandemic when people such as myself are forgoing visiting family so we don't potentially pass on covid to someone's granny and they die.

but you could be making the same choice if your granny was in this country. It doesn't stop you from going on an actual holiday, and it doesn't help to be jealous or resentful of people who do.

Great thread OP 🤣
Were off ASAP when it’s allowed we have a place abroad and family there, be great to get to see them and get some hot sun.
Currently 4 degrees wet & windy here.

Yeah you are, get a life. Life has to go on

It’s incredibly selfish because the virus is still very much out there and movement between countries is only going to spread it!!

maybe consider how you could help the UK economy by holidaying at home instead

I help the UK economy enough with tax and spendings during the rest of the year! Most of my clients are overseas, so I am taxed on income earned with foreign funds. 0 guilt for wanting to spend my money abroad. (even if my clients were uk based I wouldn't have any guilt either!)

Other countries need a boost too anyway.

Movement of the virus across countries won’t be an issue if people are vaccinated tho! It’ll become an ‘everyday virus’ I imagine now

EU are catching up

@Chamonixshoopshoop

i’m in the same boat as you 😢

YANBU. If I take a holiday this year I'm sticking to the UK. While I understand the wish to go away, as I love travelling, most countries aren't doing so well with vaccines etc so I do think it's misguided to open up and go off to mix in foreign countries so early.

YABU, why shouldn't people go abroad once the restrictions are lifted.

I agree Op! These are the same people who were shouting at other people for mixing households and or not taking the vaccine ! The risk is that they will holiday in a country which hasn't reached their vaccinated targets , potentially catch the virus and most probably bring it back over here .

The vaccine does not provide 100% protection nor does it fully stop transmission! I love holidays and I'm yearning for one but I actually think this year is too soon .

‘Where is the resilience? It is only rain!’

You’re on the wind up now.

I don’t want to be ‘resilient’ on holiday. I want to relax in guaranteed sunshine eating outside with chilled wine.

We do U.K. long weekends but our long holidays are abroad. ‘Resilience’ and ‘rain’ don’t sound very holiday like to me.

I don’t think its selfish for people to want a holiday, going abroad has only been the norm for the last 40 or so years, but that does show the age demographic of people on this thread that they think anything pre about’75 is ancient history

[quote Goblin74]@pinkscrunchy I don't begrudge people visiting their family. I begrudge people swanning off on holiday during a pandemic when people such as myself are forgoing visiting family so we don't potentially pass on covid to someone's granny and they die.

Yes, it was my choice to live abroad. I made the choice in a modern age where not many things stop me flying back a couple times a year. I'm afraid I didn't look into my crystal ball when making my choice to live abroad and see that there was a global pandemic coming in 2020!
What a bizarre and insensitive thing to say. It's a good thing bitchy comments online make me laugh instead of put me down!

Thanks @Mrsdarwin 😊[/quote]
There seems to be the attitude on MN that people who want to travel to see family (that they chose to move away from) are more hard done by than people who want to travel for pleasure. We all have made choices in this modern world and one is to have moved miles and miles away from our families. I agree this would have been with the expectation that we will always have the right to jump on a plane and see them for whatever reason.

We, and I say WE because I have moved, have made a choice. Your post come across as incredibly smug and you absolutely are begrudging holidays.

I worry that we’ll end up of a repeat of last year and cases will rise and then we’ll be in lockdown again. Especially if foreign travel means that other strains get passed around more. I don’t think foreign holidays are worth the risk personally.

Oh i would LOVE an abroad holiday so much. I've worked all year in really short staffed circumstances, often without the correct ppe, I'm a single parent and my kids have attended school all year, they've been so resilient adjusting to all the changes.

Unfortunately it's probably not going to happen as I can't afford school holiday prices plus pay for tests etc. on my NHS wage. I also can't really take time off to isolate without causing problems for my team.
Those who can afford it, hopefully will help keep the tourism industry going for those of us who wish to travel at an affordable price in the future.