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To be irritated by people wanting a foreign holiday this summer?

615 replies

Irishterrier · 06/05/2021 18:18

I know some people have family abroad and that is different.

However I know several people who either have second homes abroad or just fancy some sun, and I feel annoyed by them agitating about wanting to go abroad this summer.

AIBU to think they're being selfish?

OP posts:
ilovesooty · 07/05/2021 14:15

@motherloaded

What pisses me off is people bleating on about ‘needing’ a holiday abroad.

do you get pissed off about people "needing" weekends off too?

Yes, I could have got pissed off with people who "needed" to mix in unvaccinated family groups at Christmas too.
RuggerHug · 07/05/2021 14:19

Just scrolled and saw your question. Not in UK so eat out to help out wasn't a thing but I can honestly say hand on heart I didn't 'bend' anything to suit myself or take the piss. Could have a few times but it would have posed a risk to other people so didn't. Didn't require much thinking.

SmokedDuck · 07/05/2021 14:23

No one has a "need" to leave the country just to take a break.

I think that's the annoying part.

There are people who think it isn't a holiday if you stay in the same country, they figure that counts as a "staycation". The entitlement is kind of staggering, many people struggle to afford a holiday in another part of their own country.

I think there is plenty of good reason to say that on balance, international travel might not be a great choice this summer. Having a holiday in country should be perfectly enjoyable and it would also help support local operators ho are suffering themselves.

Brainwave89 · 07/05/2021 14:28

If it is safe to go I will be going. I do not see this as selfish in any way. My family will benefit and our destination is desperate to see tourists again. By the time we go all adults will have been vaccinated. I welcome a return to normality.

Vivi0 · 07/05/2021 14:30

Having a holiday in country should be perfectly enjoyable and it would also help support local operators ho are suffering themselves

Who are you to decide for others what they should find as “perfectly enjoyable”?

HairyFloppins · 07/05/2021 14:35

I am going if we can.

I didn't go last year for the good of people and all that crap.

It's not selfish to want to go on holiday FFS.

Just because you can't afford it or like sitting in the rain in a crappy dull seaside resort go ahead.

I go abroad to get away from British people not to be surrounded by them.

People have truly lost their minds.

motherloaded · 07/05/2021 14:50

Yes, I could have got pissed off with people who "needed" to mix in unvaccinated family groups at Christmas too.

that's completely different, they broke the rules and were well aware that a lockdown would follow.

The only surprise after Christmas was the reopening of the schools for 1 day, I don't know anyone who didn't think they would just close (and so would everything else).

No one is talking about sneaking out of the country illegally.

ilovesooty · 07/05/2021 15:04

@RuggerHug

Just scrolled and saw your question. Not in UK so eat out to help out wasn't a thing but I can honestly say hand on heart I didn't 'bend' anything to suit myself or take the piss. Could have a few times but it would have posed a risk to other people so didn't. Didn't require much thinking.
Thank you. If you're not in the UK perhaps the mixing households at Christmas question doesn't apply to you either then.
RuggerHug · 07/05/2021 15:06

Oh it did apply. We've had tougher restrictions here and the vaccine roll out is slow (but picking up now). I suppose that's part of seeing what people say here and thinking how bonkers it is.

ilovesooty · 07/05/2021 15:07

@motherloaded

Yes, I could have got pissed off with people who "needed" to mix in unvaccinated family groups at Christmas too.

that's completely different, they broke the rules and were well aware that a lockdown would follow.

The only surprise after Christmas was the reopening of the schools for 1 day, I don't know anyone who didn't think they would just close (and so would everything else).

No one is talking about sneaking out of the country illegally.

I'm talking about people who mixed on Christmas day, because they were told that they could. For instance I would have been allowed to, as Johnson had told people outside Tier 4 that it was allowed.
osbertthesyrianhamster · 07/05/2021 15:09

@RuggerHug

Just be honest and say "I've thought it all through and decided that the risk of variants emerging that the current vaccines can't protect against here and the lives of those in foreign countries are less important to me than my holiday". Living your own life isn't your own problem when you consider actions have consequences. Just a thought for a few people to mull over.
Not going to mull over someone's stupid attempt to shame others. Nice try, though. 😂😂😂
RuggerHug · 07/05/2021 15:30

Thinking can be tough for some people.Wink

osbertthesyrianhamster · 07/05/2021 15:33

@RuggerHug

Thinking can be tough for some people.Wink
And some make it even more so for themselves and try to bring others down with them. Guilt tripping doesn't work on me, though, I was brought up Catholic. Sounds like it doesn't work for more and more these days, good on them. They can do them, and I'll do me.
Jellybabiesforbreakfast · 07/05/2021 15:37

Having a holiday in country should be perfectly enjoyable

So should going for a walk. Why open up any other leisure activity ever again? We can all just continue to go for a walk like we've been doing for the past year.

RiojaRose · 07/05/2021 15:45

@RuggerHug

Thinking can be tough for some people.Wink
This.
Vivana · 07/05/2021 15:50

I have had both jabs now and have worked through all the lockdowns working in adult social care and I really need a holiday abroad. Hardly selfish is it.

Iamtooknackeredtorun · 07/05/2021 15:55

Just out of interest it's selfish to go abroad even after restrictions have lifted? Is that what you're saying?

Why are holidays any different from following any other government advice on lockdown easing?

motherloaded · 07/05/2021 16:11

@RuggerHug

Thinking can be tough for some people.Wink
clearly, if you are so obsessed with covid but completely oblivious to anything else...
osbertthesyrianhamster · 07/05/2021 16:15

Having a holiday in country should be perfectly enjoyable

Maybe to you . . .

osbertthesyrianhamster · 07/05/2021 16:16

clearly, if you are so obsessed with covid but completely oblivious to anything else...

Since the Covid obsessed can no longer accuse others of killing grannies they have to come up with new spin, now people who travel are killing others abroad! They should be ashamed. Yeah, right.

Got my pink Birkenstocks today to wear on the beach in July. Abroad. Can't wait!

SmokedDuck · 07/05/2021 16:33

@Vivi0

Having a holiday in country should be perfectly enjoyable and it would also help support local operators ho are suffering themselves

Who are you to decide for others what they should find as “perfectly enjoyable”?

If someone can't find a nice holiday anywhere in the UK, they aren't going to find one anywhere. Because they are miserable shits and they will take that with them.
MotherOfGodWeeFella · 07/05/2021 16:36

The weather is unreliable in this country - if someone chooses to holiday abroad, what does it matter to anyone else?

SmokedDuck · 07/05/2021 16:41

@Jellybabiesforbreakfast

Having a holiday in country should be perfectly enjoyable

So should going for a walk. Why open up any other leisure activity ever again? We can all just continue to go for a walk like we've been doing for the past year.

I think there is a different level of entitlement between say, feeling hemmed in with only being allowed to go for walks (which are nice, as far as it goes but a bit lonely) and not being content with any sort of vacation unless it's outside the UK.

It's a bit like saying being pissed because you can't eat at a five star French restaurant whenever you want is the same as being bored with having to eat French fries every night

People come from all across the world to visit the UK, and as recently as 30 years ago people traveled internationally quite rarely. There are lots of nice places to visit for people with different interests, and I am skeptical anyone has been to all of them.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 07/05/2021 16:42

If someone can't find a nice holiday anywhere in the UK, they aren't going to find one anywhere. Because they are miserable shits and they will take that with them.

😂😂😂. Again, a thread in active just now featuring a person whose holiday in the UK was cancelled after the owner tried to gouge more money out of her. It's now £1000 for 4 nights in a glamping tent, no food included. For £1500 in 2019 we got all 4 of us to Cyprus for 10 days, all inclusive. The weather was beautiful, the food was great. Compared to a bell tent in possible freezing cold and sharing a toilet, no contest! It was the opposite of miserable. Can't wait to go back, although hopefully to Turkey.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 07/05/2021 16:43

People come from all across the world to visit the UK,

Those pesky blighters, travelling abroad. They need to stay at home! Grin