To be irritated by people wanting a foreign holiday this summer?

[Irishterrier]

I know some people have family abroad and that is different.

However I know several people who either have second homes abroad or just fancy some sun, and I feel annoyed by them agitating about wanting to go abroad this summer.

AIBU to think they're being selfish?

I want a holiday as much as anyone but my eyes roll so far back when I read posters claiming they're "desperate" for one.

I don't think travel sounds particularly pleasurable this year what with restrictions, limits, potential last-minute quarantine changes etc etc. I don't go on holiday to juggle all those risks, I go on holiday to have a nice, relaxing time! I'm perfectly capable of waiting until that's possible again.

that's the effect of lockdown and not taking enough holidays 😂

How are they selfish? Please elaborate.

And it's up to you whether you're irritated or not, but I'd suggest that it's a waste of your energy and you'd be better focusing on something else.

So..

Any of you with your rolling eyes going to admit to Eat Out To Help Out, mixing in family groups at Christmas, or bending other rules to suit your needs?

@Hairbrush123

To all of those saying “next year will be better”. It certainly won’t in terms of vaccination roll out. Continental Europe will have vaccinated 75% of their populations by the end of July. The US has done a very good job already. It’s the rest of the world that will be affected.

The pandemic can’t end until the whole world has reached herd immunity and with this vaccine nationalism and countries rejecting the idea of waiving the vaccine patents to not allow poorer countries to copy their vaccines to establish faster rollouts. This will continue until 2024. Unless you want to spend all your time in the UK until then - life will not be better for the vast majority of the world by next year.

The reason the U.K. & other countries are not keen on the idea of releasing the patents is because it risks LESS vaccine being made and it being made safely & correctly. The raw ingredients could be wasted if any Tom dick & Harry can make it.

It's far better to have it made with some control over the raw ingredients, process and to distribute it to the countries in need.

We could end up with raw ingredients spread around the world and nowhere with correct balance to get it made.

Safer and faster

But I've booked a pretty rubbish UK self catering holiday because there was not much left

For heaven’s sake
Well done you. Top marks, gold star for martyrdom.
Remember all the news footage from the packed uk beaches last summer? Did that create an enormous increase in cases? No.
Are people really going to keep waiting for the end of something that is here to stay before they venture out of the uk? Really?

@AvonCallingBarksdale

But I've booked a pretty rubbish UK self catering holiday because there was not much left

For heaven’s sake
Well done you. Top marks, gold star for martyrdom.
Remember all the news footage from the packed uk beaches last summer? Did that create an enormous increase in cases? No.
Are people really going to keep waiting for the end of something that is here to stay before they venture out of the uk? Really?

Yep!

There's a thread in active right now from a poster whose AirB&B host trying to squeeze more money out of her for the holiday (and it was already about £750 for 4 nights) and when she didn't pay up, the host cancelled and has the thing listed on other sites for about £200/night - to stay in a safari tent.

That's what UK hols are like just now.

FUCK that. Can get to Turkey and stay in great accommodation and enjoy better food I don't have to cook for that.

Remember all the news footage from the packed uk beaches last summer? Did that create an enormous increase in cases? No.

Oh I remember the footage, and posters already bellowing "how selfish to go to the beach when you can lock yourself up in your garden and be miserable there". I am South East, chose quiet beaches and took my kids there on most hot days. It was lovely.

Listening to the gloom addicts really is terrible for your mental health.

But I've booked a pretty rubbish UK self catering holiday because there was not much left

Why not just stay at home and donate the money to Covax? The ultimate in martyrdom . Think how many people you could call out as selfish if you did that.

Having said that, rubbish UK self-catering holidays are pretty grim. The only advantage over staying at home is that you're happy to get home.

My stepdad works in travel and has been massively affected financially so I very much hope people do go on foreign holidays.
That aside, thinking people are selfish for wanting to go on holiday and enjoy themselves is ridiculous.

I'm intrigued about people that put themselves in a different category "for some of us we do need a foreign holiday every and its something we work hard for and treat ourselves etc etc"
A friend of mine normally has a foreign holiday about 5 or 6 times a year. I dont know if their need is any greater than mine (we have a 1 week -often uk- holiday per year) or just their holiday budget!

The second homes comment is especially weird. It’s been 2 years this month since we were able to check on ours and yes, we are pretty anxious to check it over, see what repairs are needed. It’s a struggle to get all the paperwork and banking done associated with it from the U.K. and the bank are now insisting I turn up in person with my Passport and seem to fail to understand we can’t leave the U.K. These are all things it takes a day to do in person.

I appreciate it’s very much a first world problem but I don’t think it’s selfish to want to keep your affairs in order. As it happens we are still trying to postpone going there until 2022 but it is a huge worry. Especially given the tropical weather and potential storm damage and 2 or 3 years of neglect.

I also don’t think it’s selfish of people to want a holiday abroad. Many of these places are built around tourism and livelihoods have been totally decimated by the pandemic. They need people back and quick.

And to reiterate, we have no plans to go abroad this year. I just think it’s downright weird to judge people who do.

I don't think people are being selfish.
If countries are worried about risk they can close their borders.
There are plenty of measures in place to keep the virus in chk on return.
Enjoy your British holiday. Let others enjoy their holidays wherever they are going.

Anonmousse

it's priority (and obviously a bit budget but you can find really good deals - in normal times).
But with an equivalent budget, some people spend more on a car, more on their house/garden, save more in general, spend more on clothes and "treats", pay a fortune to see live matches, concerts...

MY priority is holidays, I am not working full time and see nothing from it.

I don't like the concept of staycation, they are nowhere near a real holiday for me. It doesn't mean people aren't allowed to have other preferences (unlike some posters on here, I don't get irritated by people's choices)

I don't like the concept of staycation, they are nowhere near a real holiday for me. It doesn't mean people aren't allowed to have other preferences (unlike some posters on here, I don't get irritated by people's choices)

And it's not a staycation if you're not staying at your house every night. I agree, though. We're off soon, not soon enough!

Just be honest and say "I've thought it all through and decided that the risk of variants emerging that the current vaccines can't protect against here and the lives of those in foreign countries are less important to me than my holiday". Living your own life isn't your own problem when you consider actions have consequences. Just a thought for a few people to mull over.

I can totally understand people wanting a holiday abroad. I’d bloody love one too.

What pisses me off is people bleating on about ‘needing’ a holiday abroad. And I just know that I’ll have to listen to the same people whinging about the uncertainty, the covid tests and the quarantine which they will be choosing to put themselves through by booking.

Don't think people are selfish but I'm not one of those people who feel the need for a foreign holiday every year. However that's largely due to the luxury of living somewhere ppl pay to visit, and having a relaxed lifestyle, with a mix of it not being my priority.
The ones who really wind me up are the 'eco warriors' who spend a fortune on eco products to save the planet but can't give up their fancy massive polluting car and exotic holidays.... But that rant is for another day!

What pisses me off is people bleating on about ‘needing’ a holiday abroad.

do you get pissed off about people "needing" weekends off too?

@TechnoDino

I can totally understand people wanting a holiday abroad. I’d bloody love one too.

What pisses me off is people bleating on about ‘needing’ a holiday abroad. And I just know that I’ll have to listen to the same people whinging about the uncertainty, the covid tests and the quarantine which they will be choosing to put themselves through by booking.

People can define their needs however they like.

Motherloaded no, of course not, everbody needs downtime. But foreign holidays were not on Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs last time I looked. They’re a luxury, not a requirement (and that’s coming from me, who loves a luxurious, adventurous, exotic holiday at least once a year in normal times)

100% not at all selfish. Very odd stance to take feeling that people are selfish in wanting to have a holiday after the last year??

You're entitled to feel how you want, but not selfish at all.

@TechnoDino

Motherloaded no, of course not, everbody needs downtime. But foreign holidays were not on Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs last time I looked. They’re a luxury, not a requirement (and that’s coming from me, who loves a luxurious, adventurous, exotic holiday at least once a year in normal times)

I can't say I care about one model, some people need to go away for proper downtime.

@RuggerHug

Just be honest and say "I've thought it all through and decided that the risk of variants emerging that the current vaccines can't protect against here and the lives of those in foreign countries are less important to me than my holiday". Living your own life isn't your own problem when you consider actions have consequences. Just a thought for a few people to mull over.

That's not "just a thought". It's a bit of passive aggressive guilt tripping.

Perhaps you'll feel like answering the question I posed?

@TechnoDino

Motherloaded no, of course not, everbody needs downtime. But foreign holidays were not on Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs last time I looked. They’re a luxury, not a requirement (and that’s coming from me, who loves a luxurious, adventurous, exotic holiday at least once a year in normal times)

And?

As another poster said:

People can define their needs however they like

You don’t get to decide for others what their needs are, or to dismiss their needs if you don’t agree with them. Who appointed you as the “needs” enforcer?