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To think that a Rape Crisis centre should not have a transwoman CEO?

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ArabellaScott · 03/05/2021 16:18

Mridhul Wadhwa has just been appointed CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis. The job was advertised as for women only. Mridhul is a transwoman (born male) without a Gender Recognition Certificate.

AIBU to think that women survivors of rape and sexual violence should be able to have a female only space?

theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2021/05/new-boss-for-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre/

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RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 03/05/2021 20:08

Fuck me leaf don’t encourage them 😳

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 03/05/2021 20:08

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Oh are you off somewhere Kate? Cant begin to answer those questions, and just sling some childish insults? Colour me flabbergasted.
They are off for a google
BetterKateThanNever · 03/05/2021 20:08

@ArabellaScott

Can you explain what a transwoman is, in your understanding, Kate?
A woman. Not that difficult hun xo
ArabellaScott · 03/05/2021 20:09

So, why the word 'transwoman', then?

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ArabellaScott · 03/05/2021 20:10

What do I have in common with a transwoman? I really am keen to hear your thinking.

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WhatWouldPhyllisCraneDo · 03/05/2021 20:11

The facts of life as I understand them are the ones I was taught in GCSE and then Alevel biology. Are you saying my teachers and text books got it wrong?

Do you think 12 year old me should have allowed a trans woman/man to examine and counsel me following the sexual abuse I suffered as a child? Despite the fact I was traumatised and scared of most men?
Actually don't answer that because I suspect you'll tell me that my feelings didn't matter and that I should "be kind". (Incidentally that's more or less what I was told. It was my fault and I couldn't report it as it would ruin my family)

PrelovedWithValue · 03/05/2021 20:11

Most rape crisis centres in Scotland (I can't comment about elsewhere, as I don't know) deal with victims of sexual assault and violence, regardless of gender. Most aren't women-only spaces.

Transgender women are more likely to suffer sexual violence than any other group that I'm aware of.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/05/2021 20:11

How so? Don't just spout crap slogans, no one is convinced. What is a woman? What is a person identifying as when they say they identify as a woman? Where did this mysterious woman concept spring from that some humans have?

lifeturnsonadime · 03/05/2021 20:11

So according to Kate there is no difference between women and transwomen at all. We are exactly the same in every way.

Also according to Kate, any man who identifies as a woman is one because all it takes to be a woman is to identify as one.

One wonders if Kate knows how children are made?

RedcurrantPuff · 03/05/2021 20:12

@BetterKateThanNever

Aw don't I feel special.

A woman is someone who identifies as a woman. A female is the same!

A trans woman is born a woman.

Those without penises can rape anyone- if you don't consent to sex before or during, then it is rape. A very plain concept that we surely can all understand.

What nonsense
HannaHat · 03/05/2021 20:12

How embarrassing for you BetterKateThanNever 😂

HannaHat · 03/05/2021 20:13

Transgender women are more likely to suffer sexual violence than any other group that I'm aware of.

What, more than, erm, women?!

BetterKateThanNever · 03/05/2021 20:13

@WhatWouldPhyllisCraneDo

The facts of life as I understand them are the ones I was taught in GCSE and then Alevel biology. Are you saying my teachers and text books got it wrong?

Do you think 12 year old me should have allowed a trans woman/man to examine and counsel me following the sexual abuse I suffered as a child? Despite the fact I was traumatised and scared of most men?
Actually don't answer that because I suspect you'll tell me that my feelings didn't matter and that I should "be kind". (Incidentally that's more or less what I was told. It was my fault and I couldn't report it as it would ruin my family)

I'm very sorry you experienced that. I'm sure if you felt uncomfortable speaking to or being examined by a counsellor you'd be offered another, or offered a chaperone. When I went through counselling after my abuse as a child, I asked for a different counsellor.
Definately · 03/05/2021 20:14

@BetterKateThanNever

How sad that you can't understand even the most basic facts of life. Ah well, best of luck to you all in your TERF adventures.
I mean if you're talking about the basic facts of life then women don't have penises but ok Hmm
PrelovedWithValue · 03/05/2021 20:14

@HannaHat

Transgender women are more likely to suffer sexual violence than any other group that I'm aware of.

What, more than, erm, women?!

Yes
FlattestWhite · 03/05/2021 20:14

Sorry, I think you seem to have misread the article. A woman has been appointed for the role of CEO. Hence why women and children are still safe in her presence.

But not necessarily comfortable, or able to receive the rape support that they desperately need.

Nor, in the future, able to have other single sex services available to them, because all of those have been expanded to include biological males.

Nor, able to trust in anyone at a time they are most vulnerable, because people can lie to get a job to work with them.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/05/2021 20:14

Transgender women are more likely to suffer sexual violence than any other group that I'm aware of.

Can you provide the citation where you got that from? Because I don't believe it to be the case.

BetterKateThanNever · 03/05/2021 20:15

What a funny thread. So many uninformed people spouting nonsense so proudly, like a toddler talking about dragons and mermaids, only less endearing.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/05/2021 20:15

GrinGrin projection, Kate.

lifeturnsonadime · 03/05/2021 20:16

@BetterKateThanNever

What a funny thread. So many uninformed people spouting nonsense so proudly, like a toddler talking about dragons and mermaids, only less endearing.
lol.
BetterKateThanNever · 03/05/2021 20:16

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RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 03/05/2021 20:16

@BetterKateThanNever

What a funny thread. So many uninformed people spouting nonsense so proudly, like a toddler talking about dragons and mermaids, only less endearing.
I know...its not endearing of you at all

Bandying insults about and exhibiting complete ignorance of rape laws

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/05/2021 20:17

Bluster about what nonsense we think, by all means. But you haven't provided anything to back up your own view, so I'll take it with a truckload of salt.

ApplyWithin · 03/05/2021 20:17

You can’t compare the teeny tiny subset of men that call themselves transwomen to an entire sex of humans: women.

The actual numbers are minuscule compared to the numbers of women assaulted by men every week.

BetterKateThanNever · 03/05/2021 20:17

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