To think 'celebrating your curves' is becoming a worrying trend?

[Freesunglasses]

So many of my overweight 'friends' on facebook are joining in the whole "I'm embracing my curves and loving this body, every inch"
The thing is they are Obese, not use a little overyweight but really fat. The more people see and read things like this the more it will become normalised.

Worrying times ahead I think. We're going to be a very fat country in the not too distant future.
I know it's hard to lose weight. I know lockdown has made lots put weight, I'm a little overweight myself but I will never say I'm happy with it because I'm not! I like being thin, I want to be thin.

For the love of God stop normalising and celebrating obesity.

Because we see it all the time. On mn 'I went to the drs with my bad back/bad knees/breathlessness and the cf said I needed to lose weight how very dare he it's discrimination! ' or, on sm 'size 20 but 100% gawjus'.

I have literally never seen anyone say anything like this. In real life or on MN 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

I try to be neutral about my body. I'm overweight, always have been.
I don't like having a fat belly.

I do like that my body grew and fed two children. I do like that I walk or cycle around 12km most days.

I don't enjoy the presumption from strangers(medical professionals included) that I'm lazy, thick and greedy.

You know all these happy non-skinny folk are probably waaaay better company than all you judgey McSkinny butts right 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Haven't read the full thread but here's my thoughts:

I dont think theres anything wrong with people being body confident whatever their size, but I do think it's ludicrous the amount of TV ads and z list celeb accounts on SM where there's all these women in their underwear jiggling their bits around and saying how fabulous they feel. I think Boots or Dove did a few ads like that. What's the need for it? Nobody's saying you don't or can't feel fabulous. And why have I never seen an ad with men doing the same? If you feel confident being overweight then great but in the nicest way... nobody cares.

The people I do have issues with are the ones who shout discrimination or fat phobia when a health professional tells them they are overweight/obese as a fact and that they are risking many other diseases. I saw one on here the other day on the Pregnancy thread where the OP was fuming and offended that notes from her scan had said something about not being able to see something well due to high BMI. How can that be offensive when it's simply fact? Was the sonographer supposed to lie instead and say that they'd seen everything on the scan?

Bottom line is yeah be happy with your curves if you want but a) nobody cares and b) be aware of health issues that come with being overweight.

I've yet to see a 'I'm celebrating my curves' post by a man.

I think that's to a large extent because people are less likely to criticize and reject men for their appearance, than women. Or at least less likely to obsess about it.

Men are more likely to be criticized for not being 'tough' or sporty enough; but not so often just for being overweight.

Therefore they are less likely to feel the need to 'celebrate' their curves as a reaction. But there are other things that men do: e.g. the bodybuilder obsessions, sometimes involving dangerous anabolic steroids.

In any case, 'celebrating one's curves' seems to be very much a minority activity even among women.

@SmiledWithTheRisingSun

Because we see it all the time. On mn 'I went to the drs with my bad back/bad knees/breathlessness and the cf said I needed to lose weight how very dare he it's discrimination! ' or, on sm 'size 20 but 100% gawjus'.

I have literally never seen anyone say anything like this. In real life or on MN 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Me neither. Nor have I come across anyone who wasn’t skinny to the point of being ill or emaciated before actually wanting to put on weight.

I don't understand why you care OP. You will not get fat by catching it off other fat people existing.

Other people have explained it better than me. I refuse to apologise for the fact that I am obese and I am comfortable in the body I am in. I'm not celebrating it or 'promoting it', I am just existing and refusing to apologise to society for existing. I am taking steps to be healthier, but it doesn't happen overnight and I'm not bloody hating myself for the next God knows how long.

There is a poor woman posting on here earlier that she won't even apply for a job because she doesn't believe she is worthy of a job because of her weight. If someone said that because of their race , gender or sexuality then I think people would see it very differently.

There goes my weight gain story and why I “celebrate my curves”.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4236310-Weight-gain-positivity?msgid=107067291#107067291

@JaniieJones

'And why the fuck do you all care so much?'

Because we see it all the time. On mn 'I went to the drs with my bad back/bad knees/breathlessness and the cf said I needed to lose weight how very dare he it's discrimination! ' or, on sm 'size 20 but 100% gawjus'.

No one needs to become a hermit with poor self esteem but there is so much enabling and delusion going on.

I was told to lose weight by a GP when I had a BMI of 21 and was a high performance athlete. What's your point exactly?

There is no problem being confident and beautiful at every size. The issue is the "Health at every size" movement. They absolutely insist that one can be healthy regardless of size or weight. This is extremely dangerous. They oppose weight loss and judge those who do this. We don't promote other dangerous lifestyles, why should we glamourise morbid obesity? Obesity is never healthy

@Luckyelephant1

Haven't read the full thread but here's my thoughts:

I dont think theres anything wrong with people being body confident whatever their size, but I do think it's ludicrous the amount of TV ads and z list celeb accounts on SM where there's all these women in their underwear jiggling their bits around and saying how fabulous they feel. I think Boots or Dove did a few ads like that. What's the need for it? Nobody's saying you don't or can't feel fabulous. And why have I never seen an ad with men doing the same? If you feel confident being overweight then great but in the nicest way... nobody cares.

The people I do have issues with are the ones who shout discrimination or fat phobia when a health professional tells them they are overweight/obese as a fact and that they are risking many other diseases. I saw one on here the other day on the Pregnancy thread where the OP was fuming and offended that notes from her scan had said something about not being able to see something well due to high BMI. How can that be offensive when it's simply fact? Was the sonographer supposed to lie instead and say that they'd seen everything on the scan?

Bottom line is yeah be happy with your curves if you want but a) nobody cares and b) be aware of health issues that come with being overweight.

You don't see them because you (shockingly) don't get targeted ads for men...

hornet.com/stories/surge-underwear/
metro.co.uk/2015/10/17/new-underwear-ad-wants-to-welcome-men-into-the-body-positive-movement-5445567/
www.prweek.com/article/1585110/campaign-calls-diverse-representation-mens-bodies-advertising

PS. You don't get to the decide what everyone else on the planet cares about.

I was told to lose weight by a GP when I had a BMI of 21 and was a high performance athlete.

That must be pretty unusual. What was their reasoning?

'I was told to lose weight by a GP when I had a BMI of 21 and was a high performance athlete. What's your point exactly?'

A bmi of 21 and a high performance athlete?!! Why tf would she have allegedly said that.

@PurpleDaisies @JaniieJones
I had a lot of unusual symptoms, one of which was a lump/swelling of my abdomen. She told me it was just fat: lose weight and it would go away. It was actually bowel cancer.
Also, Janiie, using incorrect spellings/grammar when you do impressions of fat people is why this body positivity movement exists. Thin people going around creating incredibly offensive and incorrect stereotypes about overweight people. Being obese doesn't mean you're stupid or lazy. Obese people can still speak English properly.

'I had a lot of unusual symptoms, one of which was a lump/swelling of my abdomen. She told me it was just fat: lose weight and it would go away. It was actually bowel cancer.'

Fascinating. A gp would usually order tests not tell someone with a bmi of 21 to lose wait. I do hope you complained.

My 'gawjus' incorrect spelling was pertaining to the trend to spell it like that on sm generally not just by fat people.

@SonnyWinds but it's not just targeted ads, I specifically mentioned TV ads. Never seen men in their underwear bouncing around grabbing their bellies but plenty of ads with women doing it, like I said I am pretty sure Boots or Superdrug etc have done it a few times.

And hey if you enjoy watching people flaunt their bodies in your face then carry on! I just think a lot of people are far too narcissistic these days and presume people give two hoots about how they feel in their own body so they feel the need to jump around in their underwear letting everything hang out.

@JaniieJones

'I had a lot of unusual symptoms, one of which was a lump/swelling of my abdomen. She told me it was just fat: lose weight and it would go away. It was actually bowel cancer.'

Fascinating. A gp would usually order tests not tell someone with a bmi of 21 to lose wait. I do hope you complained.

My 'gawjus' incorrect spelling was pertaining to the trend to spell it like that on sm generally not just by fat people.

Actually, a GP wouldn't normally order tests. It's a big campaign at the moment from Bowel Cancer UK because young people are dying from bowel cancer because GPs tell them to fuck off repeatedly instead of ordering any tests. On average, a woman who sees her GP with rectal bleeding, abdominal pain, unexplained weight loss and a change in their bowel habits has to see their GP five times in order to get a test.

If it doesn't affect you directly then mind your own beeswax. Lower the judgy pants and live and let live.

And while you're at it stop blaspheming. If you wouldn't use similar expressions about other religions then don't use them about Christianity.

A gp would usually order tests not tell someone with a bmi of 21 to lose wait. I do hope you complained.
I hope you complained not only to the surgery but the medical board too.

On average, a woman who sees her GP with rectal bleeding, abdominal pain, unexplained weight loss and a change in their bowel habits has to see their GP five times in order to get a test.

Can't believe this. Do you have any articles? Unexplained weight loss would be enough I would think. Rectal bleeding also.

'Can't believe this. Do you have any articles? Unexplained weight loss would be enough I would think. Rectal bleeding also.'

Yes it seems unbelievable doesn't it. Especially as the pp was allegedly told to lose weight with a bmi of 21. If anyone presented with rectal bleeding plus abdo pain they would surely have routine bloods plus stool specs sent off as a matter of course, after that referral to gastroenterology if unresolved. But yes Sonny please give us more info this is very concerning if true.

@Quincie

On average, a woman who sees her GP with rectal bleeding, abdominal pain, unexplained weight loss and a change in their bowel habits has to see their GP five times in order to get a test.

Can't believe this. Do you have any articles? Unexplained weight loss would be enough I would think. Rectal bleeding also.

This is happening to a colleague of mine right now. I have urged her to change Dr.

I do think some doctors - particularly GPs are very quick to look at a person’s weight and make a link to a health issue without proper investigation.

I’ve noticed it a lot with my various foster children. I have to fight really hard for GPs to look at other possible causes. Especially if they’re girls.

Fortunately, I’m not easily sent away

I do think some doctors - particularly GPs are very quick to look at a person’s weight and make a link to a health issue without proper investigation.
This is very true and can result in a misdiagnosis. At the same time many health problems are caused by being overweight many prescriptions are issued to control these illnesses.
After my Dsis lost 5 stone she didn't need 50% of the medication keeping her going.
My colleague is 28 stone she takes a full handful of tablets on every break.
Similar to a drug addict or alcoholic every health problem is assumed to be the fault of the addiction.