Vaccine experiences please!

[Helptonight]

I've had my text, sitting on the fence and need some real experiences. I am early 40's, no health conditions. Not anti vax at all just struggling to decide whether or not to have it. Friends/relatives I have spoken to have experienced side effects (tiredness, fuzzy brain, no energy) since having it even a month or more down the line with 2nd dose being worse (AZ) Some report no reactions at all! I feel like if I am not sure then I shouldn't go ahead? I feel like I want to wait until further down the line before going ahead, is this silly?

Good to see Mumsnet admin are removing total fantasist nonsense like Sushirolls post.

@Schrutesbeets if you have covid, you only have antibodies for 3-6 months, and it's not yet known if you can still transmit it in this time.

[quote Helptonight]@tootiredtospeak this is me! I think I will have it as it seems that the concensus is that the alternative is far more dangerous but feel very anxious about it[/quote]
You’ve answered your own question right here. There’s a vaccine for a reason OP and that reason is that feeling shitty for a couple of days really isn’t as bad as the alternative. I get that you’re young and your risk factors of fatal COVID is low right now but that’s not always going to be the case and you will be vulnerable at some point in you life - COVID will still be here when that happens. If you choose not to have the vaccine (yes, it is a choice) you really must be sure that you can accept restrictions in your life for an indefinite period of time too. Rightly or wrongly restrictions will be placed on unvaccinated people for things like travelling abroad. If enough people decide to not take the vaccine, it may well be the case that the general population will have to live jumping between restrictions for god knows how long as people die unnecessarily . Morally I couldn’t be a part of that.

There really is a much bigger here than a couple of days with at most can be described as a nasty cold and there really is no difference between deliberating this vaccine or another of the already well established ones on the vaccine programme.

Everyone is different... you might be fine, you might be injected with aliens- joking- just have the jab.

@MatildaTheCat

Look at it this way, if you are scared of the vaccine making you feel unwell you should be REALLY a scared of catching the virus. Even if it doesn’t hospitalise you it can make you feel utterly shit and also the approximately one in ten risk of long Covid. Or you could be asymptomatic. The people you may infect may be very seriously ill or asymptomatic.

I was absolutely fine with both vaccines.

Where is the evidence that 10% of people suffer with long covid?! Considering 99.7% of people are fine and up to 30% of people are asymptomatic. It's also been stated numerous times throughout that asymptomatic people are highly unlikely to be contagious. Predictions state AZ only reduces transmission by 30% at the lower end of the estimations. And its forecast that the 3rd wave deaths are going to be dominated by 50-80year old who have had both doses of the vaccine.

[quote Helptonight]@Sushirolls thank you for your alternative perspective, my good friend is a breast cancer surviver and told me she refuses to have it. I wish I could be so clear on how I decide whether it was either way![/quote]
You're welcome. Though my post has been deleted for some reason, as nothing I said was untrue. You can look at their Pfizer & AZ, & government websites to clarify.

I guess not everyone likes the truth 🤷🏼‍♀️ or a different opinion that doesn't follow the narrative.

I am also a cancer survivor and have underlying health issues, I also had Covid last year. Still a firm no from me, for this "vaccine".

There are also some groups on Facebook where those who have had reactions, can post.

Are people having the 2nd AZ jab earlier than the 11-12 gap?

I am in heart failure and I had Pfizer. 1st dose had a very sore arm but my INR was too high at that point so understandable.

2nd dose had no side effects at all. Not even a sore arm.

And ignore the poster who says the vaccine is still in trial she is talking bollocks. Every treatment which is licenced is considered to be in phase4 trial for a period after licensing because it’s the only way to be able to know the impact on a mass population.

As for side effects, go and look at the side effects leaflet on a paracetamol packet, or a bottle of cough mixture. They include such things as breathing difficulties, loss of consciousness, to name but two. And those side effects are extremely rare but are noted there because someone has suffered them.

I take a drug which amongst other things:
carries the risk of liver damage
Carries the risk of lung damage
Carries the risk of thyroid damage
Makes the skin over sensitive to the sun (I have to wear factor50 sunscreen even when the sun is only mild, and have regular blood tests to check for the rest.)

One of my other drugs carries the risk of stroke/hemhorage
Another one carries the risk of kidney damage..

[quote therearenogoodusernamesleft]@Schrutesbeets if you have covid, you only have antibodies for 3-6 months, and it's not yet known if you can still transmit it in this time. [/quote]
Can you link a source to antibodies only being present for 3-6 months? And does this include t-cell presence?

I hit post too soon:

I have a device in my heart called a mitraclip which was only licenced 6 months before I had it fitted, so long-term side effects are as yet unknown.

The long term side effect of not having it though is that I would be dead.

It’s a case of risk vs benefit.

every medication or procedure carries risk. Without exception. But those risks are offset by the benefits they give.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph and the wee Donkey

@WiddlinDiddlin

Good to see Mumsnet admin are removing total fantasist nonsense like Sushirolls post.

🤦🏼‍♀️ feel free to research for yourself.

I said nothing that was untrue.

Had mild covid in November

Vaccination (AZ) worse than covid. Arm pain within minutes (DH had nothing). Couldn't hold a bag within 10 minutes. Temp of 39.8, sickness, dizziness (all common side effects)

But I also had a severe skin reaction (which I had had to a lesser extent with covid). You may have seen the woman in the press- mine isn't as bad as that but is similar but more localised. Mine is like a mixture of the 2 reactions below

Sorry its the DM
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9422323/Mothers-arm-erupts-agonising-red-rash-getting-AstraZenecas-Covid-vaccine.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9496075/Mothers-legs-erupt-horrifying-rash-blisters-getting-AstraZenecas-Covid-vaccine.html

6 weeks on and getting nowhere with getting rid of it. Nightmare

I had my first two weeks ago and am gladly going to have my second.
With infection rates and deaths low I get why people may be uncertain,but I think if we were to get another wave then people will be very grateful they have had a jab.

@AlternativePerspective

I am in heart failure and I had Pfizer. 1st dose had a very sore arm but my INR was too high at that point so understandable.

2nd dose had no side effects at all. Not even a sore arm.

And ignore the poster who says the vaccine is still in trial she is talking bollocks. Every treatment which is licenced is considered to be in phase4 trial for a period after licensing because it’s the only way to be able to know the impact on a mass population.

As for side effects, go and look at the side effects leaflet on a paracetamol packet, or a bottle of cough mixture. They include such things as breathing difficulties, loss of consciousness, to name but two. And those side effects are extremely rare but are noted there because someone has suffered them.

I take a drug which amongst other things:
carries the risk of liver damage
Carries the risk of lung damage
Carries the risk of thyroid damage
Makes the skin over sensitive to the sun (I have to wear factor50 sunscreen even when the sun is only mild, and have regular blood tests to check for the rest.)

One of my other drugs carries the risk of stroke/hemhorage
Another one carries the risk of kidney damage..

I am not talking bollocks, go to the Pfizer website... It states it is still in trial until 2023. The truth is there if you look!

The OP has asked for an informed advice and opinions, but apparently that's only if you say for them the get the vaccine 🤔

@AlternativePerspective

I hit post too soon:

I have a device in my heart called a mitraclip which was only licenced 6 months before I had it fitted, so long-term side effects are as yet unknown.

The long term side effect of not having it though is that I would be dead.

It’s a case of risk vs benefit.

every medication or procedure carries risk. Without exception. But those risks are offset by the benefits they give.

Do you not understand then, that as the alternative to you not having your device is certain death... Whereas the alternative to a healthy young person not having the vaccine is that they MIGHT get covid, and if they do they've a 99.7% chance of survival?! Do you really not see the difference?

Moderna. Arm was really sore for a few days but otherwise fine.

Parents both had Pfizer. Dad felt a bit groggy for the afternoon but otherwise fine.

Most of friends I know with AZ has either no reaction or felt a bit rough for a few days.

I’ve heard of more people who have had Covid suffering for months and months after than anyone with serious side effects of the jab.

Can you link a source to antibodies only being present for 3-6 months? And does this include t-cell presence?

Of course she can’t, because there isn’t one. In fact evidence has emerged this week that transmission is cut significantly even after the 1st dose and given the vaccine has only been licenced for 4 months now it is impossible to make statements that “antibodies are only present for 6 months.” Added to which, some vaccines just are annual. Such as the flu vaccine.

But it seems the world is full of scaremongering thicko’s.

And ignore the poster who says the vaccine is still in trial she is talking bollocks

I hope MN remove your comment for spreading misinformation. The vaccines ARE being trialled until 2023. This is not a secret.

You're welcome. Though my post has been deleted for some reason, as nothing I said was untrue.

Your characterisation of the vaccine as something other than a vaccine (which I shan’t repeat), was misinformation, used by individuals with an anti vax agenda, which I suspect you know.

@AlternativePerspective

Can you link a source to antibodies only being present for 3-6 months? And does this include t-cell presence?

Of course she can’t, because there isn’t one. In fact evidence has emerged this week that transmission is cut significantly even after the 1st dose and given the vaccine has only been licenced for 4 months now it is impossible to make statements that “antibodies are only present for 6 months.” Added to which, some vaccines just are annual. Such as the flu vaccine.

But it seems the world is full of scaremongering thicko’s.

Lol you clearly haven't read the post. She stated antibodies are only present for 6 months following having covid, not the vaccine.

But I’ve seen your antivaxx bullshit on other threads and there really is no reasoning with some people. @ Schrutesbeets so, older people should get the vaccine then? It’s ok to sacrifice those in the name of your imaginary side effects? Just so long as the young people don’t have to have it eh? What about young people with underlying health conditions? Are you happy to sacrifice those as wel in the name of the vaccine?

Let’s look at it this way. Either the vaccine is safe for everyone so there’s no reason why everyone shouldn’t have it, or it isn’t safe for anyone in which case no-one should have it.

I've had first AZ, had no side effects. Parents had Pfizer/AZ neither had any side effects. Hubby had AZ first dose and felt rough for half a day.

@Schrutesbeets

And ignore the poster who says the vaccine is still in trial she is talking bollocks

I hope MN remove your comment for spreading misinformation. The vaccines ARE being trialled until 2023. This is not a secret.

There are certainly mixed vaccine trials- we were approached a couple of weeks ago - they wanted people who had already had their 1st jab

I had side effects, fatigue, headache. Went after 24 hours. My colleague had covid and now has an enlarged heart and partial hearing and sight loss. I'd rather be unwell for 24 hours.