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To think Charlotte Crosby is completely right here

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Fedup1223 · 24/04/2021 11:20

She posted the below statement in response to channel 5 tv show made called “Celebrities what happened to your face”.

To think Charlotte Crosby is completely right here
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Lifeaintalwaysempty · 24/04/2021 13:34

Absolutely agree it’s a horrible premise for a show. However we also need to acknowledge that celebrities like Charlotte, who are normalising and promoting distorted, impossible, potentially dangerous beauty standards, are also have their own detrimental effect on the mental health of young people in particular.

CovoidOfAllHumanity · 24/04/2021 13:38

They do but as another poster said they are basically pawns in a game. They are victims of this toxic culture too. Although they might think they are getting something out of it at the time they will be chewed up and spat out if their face no longer fits or they step out of line.

It's like MLM sellers. They think they are winning but they are being used by the people making the real money eg TV companies, aesthetics companies etc

19thNamechange · 24/04/2021 13:43

I agree with every word she's written. It sounds like a disgusting programme. I hope she is able to stay strong and confident in herself.

Lifeaintalwaysempty · 24/04/2021 13:44

Very true. But in the meantime they are actively contributing to a very damaging culture that is damaging young people who are influenced by them, and/or aspire to be more like them. And making a lot of money in the process.

Susie477 · 24/04/2021 13:48

I didn’t watch this show, so I can’t comment directly on it, but I do know who Charlotte is and I did watch some of the early series of Geordie Shore.

Charlotte has chosen to pursue a career as a professional reality TV celebrity. She has chosen to monetise her personal life, her relationships and her appearance, and has done so very successfully as she acknowledges.

By doing this, she must accept that along with the fans from whom she makes money, some people will inevitably dislike and criticise her behaviour, personality and appearance. That’s the deal which these people have chosen to sign up for, and if they don’t like it, they are working in the wrong industry.

Aloethere · 24/04/2021 13:53

@Susie477

I didn’t watch this show, so I can’t comment directly on it, but I do know who Charlotte is and I did watch some of the early series of Geordie Shore.

Charlotte has chosen to pursue a career as a professional reality TV celebrity. She has chosen to monetise her personal life, her relationships and her appearance, and has done so very successfully as she acknowledges.

By doing this, she must accept that along with the fans from whom she makes money, some people will inevitably dislike and criticise her behaviour, personality and appearance. That’s the deal which these people have chosen to sign up for, and if they don’t like it, they are working in the wrong industry.

I don't think it is the deal though really. We are talking about an hour long show dedicated to dissecting her appearance. I don't think I have ever heard of anything like this before? Sure you might expect comments on social media, in papers etc but an hour long prime time tv show on a national tv station made solely to pull apart how you look? That is a step too far and I can't see why anybody would excuse that.
SofiaMichelle · 24/04/2021 14:03

@Poptart4

But it's ok to pick apart the Kardashians??

Don't get me wrong I despise everything the Kardashians stand for but these type of shows are made about them and other celebs all the time and no bats an eye. But because you like Charlotte Crosby suddenly it's not ok?

I personally cant stand all these z list celebs being handed millions for pissing the bed and having sex on TV. Also all the plastic surgery they have putting pressure on young girls to look a certain way.

Charlotte has no talent whatsoever but has made an extremely good living from fame. Unfortunately this is the bad side of that. We all have to take the good with the bad.

I agree with all of this.

Anything/anyone encouraging young girls to make themselves look fucking ridiculous and indeed permanently physically damage themselves, is fair game for anyone to challenge.

Fedup1223 · 24/04/2021 14:04

By doing this, she must accept that along with the fans from whom she makes money, some people will inevitably dislike and criticise her behaviour, personality and appearance. That’s the deal which these people have chosen to sign up for, and if they don’t like it, they are working in the wrong industry.

I think her statement addresses this. She says you can ignore and block - but a production company choosing to make a one hour tv show dedicated to slagging off how you look it another matter altogether.

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Fedup1223 · 24/04/2021 14:07

Anything/anyone encouraging young girls to make themselves look fucking ridiculous and indeed permanently physically damage themselves, is fair game for anyone to challenge.

You go get that these reality stars are the ones being offered free Botox, fillers etc. So the people you should be challenging are those who provide it.

Same with eating disorders. You don’t blame the star who gets the disorder - you blame the sided industry that decided that thin was the only acceptable thing.

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 24/04/2021 14:07

YANBU. Are the producers of these programmers so perfect

TheQueef · 24/04/2021 14:08

Agree with Aloe Who is entertained by a prime time, national channel airing an hour of relishing in someone's mistakes? Gleefully encouraging viewers to mock someone isn't entertainment.

AngeloMysterioso · 24/04/2021 14:10

I think the premise of the show is awful, I haven’t watched it and I don’t intend to.

But at the same time, I think it should be acknowledged that this amount of surgery is not healthy. I mean really, is this the kind of transformation that we want young women to think is necessary in order to be attractive, happy or successful?

To think Charlotte Crosby is completely right here
To think Charlotte Crosby is completely right here
lavenderlou · 24/04/2021 14:14

I think the premise of the show is awful, I haven’t watched it and I don’t intend to.

But at the same time, I think it should be acknowledged that this amount of surgery is not healthy. I mean really, is this the kind of transformation that we want young women to think is necessary in order to be attractive, happy or successful?

Agree. Sounds like an awful concept for a show to pick on one person and pull apart their looks. A much more interesting show would have been one that focused on why some women (in particular) in the public eye feel the need to have such work done and the effects on their mental health and that of their followers who aspire to look like them.

CovoidOfAllHumanity · 24/04/2021 14:19

Agreed

I think it's possible to agree that both things are contemptible

The fact that an attractive young woman mutilates herself in this bizarre way to conform to an ideal of beauty is disgusting but we have to look beyond her to the industry that is pushing this stuff.

I would watch a programme about the harms of cosmetic surgery, the industry behind it and the ways people are manipulated but I will not watch a freak show programme about one woman's mistakes which is just looking to take them down for the sake of viewing figures.
That is condoning bullying

SpilltheTea · 24/04/2021 14:23

It's her choice what she does with her face, she doesn't have any responsibility to young girls to present herself in a certain way. Why shit on people who get these procedures and not on the people who provide them. It's all very sad.

LakieLady · 24/04/2021 14:30

@Poptart4

But it's ok to pick apart the Kardashians??

Don't get me wrong I despise everything the Kardashians stand for but these type of shows are made about them and other celebs all the time and no bats an eye. But because you like Charlotte Crosby suddenly it's not ok?

I personally cant stand all these z list celebs being handed millions for pissing the bed and having sex on TV. Also all the plastic surgery they have putting pressure on young girls to look a certain way.

Charlotte has no talent whatsoever but has made an extremely good living from fame. Unfortunately this is the bad side of that. We all have to take the good with the bad.

I agree with a fair bit of this.

Why anyone goes to extremes with plastic surgery and face-altering "beauty" treatments beats me. We've seen enough stars and "celebs" ruin their faces to know what the risks are, so people who end up looking like they've got Bell's Palsy and been punched in the gob have only themselves to blame.

A lot of these people actively court publicity and appear to love all the media coverage, right up to the point where it starts to be less than flattering. And it inevitably does, which is a risk they must have realised existed, unless they're just too vapid and/or full of themselves to think it won't happen to them.

I sometimes think no-one should be allowed on reality shows until they have had a full psych evaluation to ensure that they're resilient enough to cope with the bad mouthing, the bitchiness, the ridicule etc which will inevitably come their way when they stop being this week's hot new thing. And while we're at it, maybe that should be compulsory before people get their faces injected with chemicals, too.

It's high time there was tighter regulation of long-lasting or permanent treatments. Perhaps we should go back to the days when only plastic surgeons fucked about with all this stuff, perhaps that would stop so many people looking like a plastic doll that's been left too close to the fire.

jelly79 · 24/04/2021 14:31

@Poptart4 what do you despise about the kardashians specifically??

withpeaceandlove · 24/04/2021 14:37

I think all the people saying that she's encouraging young girls to feel insecure and seek surgery and ignoring the fact that she was a young girl when she started Georgie shore and her appearance was ripped to shreds, she was then offered free surgery to "fix" that. It's a vicious cycle, she was young, insecure and impressionable and it should be the companies that cashed in on that and the tabloids and trolls that picked apart her appearance that face the bulk of the backlash.

Blursula · 24/04/2021 14:38

You can complain to Ofcom here. Broadcasters need to stop pretending they care about mental health and start practicing what they preach.

www.ofcom.org.uk/complaints/complain-about-tv-radio-a-website

HumunaHey · 24/04/2021 14:40

Live by the gun, die by the gun.

She can not criticise the very thing she courted to propel her into fame and riches. It's not as if she had a talent that brings fame. She went on a trashy reality TV show and did things after to remain in the spotlight. The show that recently aired was very immoral but when will these young people learn that they're dancing with the devil when it comes to craving fame and fortune by any means?

Mrsmadevans · 24/04/2021 14:43

I am shocked at what the plastic surgeons have done to her tbh , they have ruined her beautiful face. That poor girl . I couldn't believe a young woman as beautiful as she was, would disfigure herself so badly , why on earth did she do it.
The ppl who made the programme are despicable . They must have made her despair.

Billythecandlestickmaker · 24/04/2021 14:45

Trashy programme yes, but quick Google... and what has happened to her face? Why all the work? She was beautiful and normal looking before.
I've not watched the programme so not idea how "brutal" they were, but telling people that certain celebrities have had surgery, and showing what they have had, I cant see too much problem.

More damaging is the girls and women who think this plastic surgery look is achievable and this is the best way to appear "attractive"

Ponoka7 · 24/04/2021 14:50

"But in the meantime they are actively contributing to a very damaging culture that is damaging young people who are influenced by them, and/or aspire to be more like them"

Then make shows about that and 'them'. Not an attack on one person. The fact that it was commissioned one month after Caroline's suicide is disgraceful. The male members of reality TV shows behave in ways which ok women being disposable and easy replaceable, DV, emotional abuse (an emotionally abusive relationship was allowed to continue on camera on GS), rape culture, revenge porn etc, but it's only the women's appearance which is examined.

CovoidOfAllHumanity · 24/04/2021 14:52

I hope some enterprising TV company offers her a show off the back of this to talk about her experiences in a serious way.

She was very young and impressionable when she started. There are loads of young women like her. I hope the BBC or someone offer her a documentary series looking at the beauty and cosmetics industry, 'influencers', reality TV and the like from a critical standpoint. We need someone relatable to be able to put the message out that you do not need to conform to patriarchal Western beauty standards to be beautiful.

Nothing wrong with make up or fashion as creative expression of you like that but a whole lot wrong with straight jacketing everyone into compliance with these ideals.

dayswithaY · 24/04/2021 14:52

I did watch the programme. It also discussed the facial surgery of Sylvester Stallone but I don't hear anyone defending his choices.

They had qualified plastic surgeons looking at before and after pics of Charlotte and speculating on what work she had had done. The comment they all made was that she had gone way too far, the doctors who did her work should have advised her against it and that she had had a great number of procedures for someone so young. They also commented that her face was lovely before, and now she looks quite unnatural.

Yes, it was critical and possibly unkind to make such a programme. But if my daughter wanted her face to look like that, I would be concerned. One look at Instagram tells you this is now the desired look, that is very troubling.

The also showed all the procedures that they think Madonna has had. But because she is older than Charlotte and is presumably having them for anti ageing reasons people make jokes about her "pillow face" and that's not okay either.

I don't think it's wrong that people discuss Charlotte's troubling amount of plastic surgery.

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