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AIBU in feeling harassed?

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KungFuPandaWorksOut20 · 17/04/2021 17:00

In the middle of March, RSPCA had knocked on our door. They had a complaint stating an animal was lay in the window not moving they presumed the animal was dead.

Understandably RSPCA came right around. The guy was very amused in finding not a dead dog on the windowsill, but our dog happily sun bathing. My dog gave a half hearted wag of the tail, looked at him and went straight back to sunbathing and watching the world go by.

RSPCA obviously said no more action needed. So imagine my surprise 6 days later when a female RSPCA worker showed up, her attitude was absolutely horrific.

The complaint this time was a lethargic dog on the windowsill with the suspicion of the dog being drugged, because of how unresponsive it was.

I told the Lady she could happily come in and have a look at our dog, just like her colleague had.

She refused and said she can see clearly from the window that the dog looks lethargic, not active and started asking what medication I give the dog that makes him so placid.

I told her he's on no medication, he's sat chilling at the window he's hardly gonna be active when he's lay down! She told me I need to hand over the dogs vet details, and she will discuss everything with my vet, and she can do monthly check ins with my vet making sure my dogs condition improves.


I told her he had no condition, she has no right to my dogs vet records and I will not be handing them over or giving consent. She told me that's suspicious and I would make it easier on myself by giving consent, if not she will get the police to return with her, so she can remove the dog!


I told her conversation was over with, I will happily deal with another colleague but not her, I also phoned RSPCA notifying them of this, and began the complaints procedure online in regards to her.


Thursday we went out for a walk with the dog, when returning home we had missed a calling card from the RSPCA. We called, and they said the inspector on the case will call back.

It was the first gentlemen from last time, he informed us the same complaint had been put in again but apparently the complainer had gone to the window to illicit a response from him and nothing.

They had placed 4 calls within the space of 2 days, and several photos of the dog asleep on the windowsill.

He sounded apologetic, but explained his hands are tied and he can't just close the case like the past 2 times, due to the amount of phone calls and photos sent across.

He claims RSPCA sent the photos over to an independent vet and the vet is showing concern over the "lethargic demeanor" he is displaying in the photos.


He has asked for us to book him into the vets ASAP and give him the report and then he can mark this down as malicious for a year.


I'm really horrified at the thought of someone coming into my garden taking photos through my living room window.


My issue isn't with the RSPCA they are just doing their job, it's whoever is doing this. He confirmed it was the same caller!


I honestly don't know why they are being malicious and acting like this. My anxiety has been sky high since finding out, is someone watching my house? How often are they coming into my garden taking photos? Do they get photos of Myself, two children and DN?

It's not like he barks, my Husband has worked from home since the start of the pandemic. So that is definitely ruled out.


My husband has suggested just stopping him from being on the front windowsill but in my opinion that doesn't solve the issue at all!


We are looking into getting cameras, but is that even legal someone taking photos through my window? Or am I being dramatic and someone is just trying to do a good deed.

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MrsBobDylan · 18/04/2021 08:43

The RSPCA are being utterly ridiculous. We have three pugs who sleep in the sun all day, then run about like made things on an hour long walk.

I have a very lethargic pug asleep in bed next to me as I type this!

Sparkletastic · 18/04/2021 08:53

Certainly sounds like a neighbour has got it in for you. Why wouldn't they have a chat with you rather than contacting RSPCA immediately?

chaosrabbitland · 18/04/2021 08:57

what is nuts to me is the rspca officer saying he cant define it as malicious , of course he bloody well can !! he did the first visit ,saw the dog was fine ,one presumes this fruit loop who made the complaint was also told the dog is fine ,nothing to worry about and yet they are making it sound like they are helpless children who cant tell this nutter look , we have visited and investigated , please do not keep phoning us as you are now wasting our time and we arent going to be visiting the property any further , its just so fucking simple !! or is that me being too simplistic as usual , rolls eyes

Noshowlomo · 18/04/2021 09:15

Let us know how you get on OP. Dying to know who the person is... what a tool.
I donate to RSPCA monthly, but considering changing it. I reported a dog wailing in the heat last year, ALL DAY. Was told it could be because he was just missing his owner who was probably at work or something. I think it was the hottest day of the year and he was left outside all day.

KungFuPandaWorksOut20 · 18/04/2021 09:19

@chaosrabbitland

what is nuts to me is the rspca officer saying he cant define it as malicious , of course he bloody well can !! he did the first visit ,saw the dog was fine ,one presumes this fruit loop who made the complaint was also told the dog is fine ,nothing to worry about and yet they are making it sound like they are helpless children who cant tell this nutter look , we have visited and investigated , please do not keep phoning us as you are now wasting our time and we arent going to be visiting the property any further , its just so fucking simple !! or is that me being too simplistic as usual , rolls eyes

This was my point, but because their has been 4 calls in 2 days and photos sent it is classed as urgent. He's claiming all 4 calls were made of different numbers, but he can't tell me whether it was the same person who placed all 4 calls off different numbers. He said it could very well be they have had their family/friends call.

This to me indicates its malicious but genuinely have no idea why its being done.
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PasstheBucket89 · 18/04/2021 09:26

so sorry you are going through this, get a ring door bell!! they notify and record all activity at the door.

PinkSnowAndStars · 18/04/2021 09:30

How bizarre! Have you upset a neighbour?

FOJN · 18/04/2021 09:30

He's claiming all 4 calls were made of different numbers, but he can't tell me whether it was the same person who placed all 4 calls off different numbers. He said it could very well be they have had their family/friends call.

That sounds quite sinister. I would be bothered about people coming into my garden and taking photos too. Have you checked the legal position of photographing inside someone's home, sounds like an invasion of privacy to me but I don't know much about the law in this area.

KungFuPandaWorksOut20 · 18/04/2021 09:33

@FOJN

He's claiming all 4 calls were made of different numbers, but he can't tell me whether it was the same person who placed all 4 calls off different numbers. He said it could very well be they have had their family/friends call.

That sounds quite sinister. I would be bothered about people coming into my garden and taking photos too. Have you checked the legal position of photographing inside someone's home, sounds like an invasion of privacy to me but I don't know much about the law in this area.

I have tried researching this, but I can't really make head nor tail of it.

Some places are saying its allowed, some are saying its frowned upon and then a few sources are saying because the photos are being taken with the intent of causing distress and alarm its a no no.
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KungFuPandaWorksOut20 · 18/04/2021 09:41

@PinkSnowAndStars

How bizarre! Have you upset a neighbour?

Not that I am aware of 🤔 it's just frustrating that I have no clue who it is, because maybe I would be able to explain Chopsy isn't drugged or dead, he's just bloody lazy! Understandably the RSPCA won't reveal who the complainant is.

It's like I said he can't be annoying people by barking as my husband WFH and I was furloughed for a few months.

Can't be a parking dispute, we all have drives. No visitors/guests or parties obviously. I'm actually stumped what the grievance is.
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FakeColinCaterpillar · 18/04/2021 09:50

I’ve skimmed the thread. What are the rules about someone coming onto your property and taking photographs through your window. I assume they aren’t doing it from the road if they are trying to rouse the dog.

FOJN · 18/04/2021 09:55

Can you take your own photos and maybe some video footage of your dog when he's doing things other than sunbathing and send that to the RSPCA? Perhaps when he's eating or when you're out for a walk?

It's a bit worrying that a vet has decided your dog is exhibiting a lethargic demeanor from some photographs or perhaps they're a particularly talented vet, could you get their details so I can register my dog with them, he hates the vet so one who could make a diagnosis from a photo of him sleeping would be great.

GreyHare · 18/04/2021 09:57

If you need legal advice Trevor Cooper specialises in the law. surrounding dogs so maybe able to advise you if it escalates any further. doglaw.co.uk/

GarlicMonkey · 18/04/2021 09:59

Who pays for this unnecessary vet report that they're demanding? It's £30 just to walk through the door at my vet, then tests, reports, treatment on top.

Also, surely they need to have a threshold that is proven to be met before the police can assist with removal? Dogs are classed as 'livestock' which makes them your property. No one can just take your 'property' without good reason & the onus of proof is on them.

Calmyertits · 18/04/2021 10:02

100% call 101 and report harassment. Its using professional bodies to cause harassment/alarm or distress. Also is this your front room window or rear? Can you close the curtains/blinds or stop him getting up there until whoever it is gets bored or Police put a stop to it. If you report Harassment, Police should be able to get from the RSPCA whose making the reports.

CaesarsDream · 18/04/2021 10:03

I would put a camera up to catch who's been maliciously reporting you, then call your local police and log it as a stalking and harassment incident. Stalking and harassment is illegal!

I don't blame you for feeling so anxious over this. I hope the knobhead reporting you at the very least gets a warning from the police.

PinkFlamingoo · 18/04/2021 10:09

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read!!
I really hope you catch whoever it is that doesn't have much else better to do than report you!
My dog and cats love sunbathing!!
Such a silly thing to complain about!!

Osirus · 18/04/2021 10:10

I had first hand experience of dealing with the RSPCA last year when the animals were seized in quite distressing circumstances (not my animals).

I would do as they say. Ask them to pay for the report, but I would do as they say. They will take your animal if they are concerned and you are not co-operating. This is what happened last year with the situation mentioned above.

Royalbloo · 18/04/2021 10:10

I'd either put up that smudgy bathroom glass covering or I'd sit outside my front door on a chair and front it out - knobs

WhoWants2Know · 18/04/2021 10:13

Maybe add one of these with your camera.

AIBU in feeling harassed?
RonSwansonsChair · 18/04/2021 10:13

This sounds very distressing OP, it's great that you've ordered the security camera.

Allwokedup · 18/04/2021 10:19

This is so bizarre! Must be so stressful for you. It would creep me out someone watching my house.

KungFuPandaWorksOut20 · 18/04/2021 10:23

Picked the camera up now! I'm really hesitant to ring the police incase they think I'm trying to bypass the RSPCA if that makes sense. They might just hear RSPCA and not take me seriously about feeling harassed and spied on.

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chaosrabbitland · 18/04/2021 10:23

even though the rspca are saying they have had the phone calls from differernt numbers the fact is the complaints are all about the same dog at the same property so its obvious theres a link , its just plain commonsense that the dog has been visited , its fine , anymore complaints regardless of how many photos of a sleeping dog are sent in and phonecalls from differernt nos are made ,should be treated the same way the rspca , its pretty obvious its malicious and in no way urgent . it beggars belief that they seem to be taking the easier option of harrassing you rather than tell this sad loser to politely fuck off and stop wasting their time .

KungFuPandaWorksOut20 · 18/04/2021 10:29

@chaosrabbitland

even though the rspca are saying they have had the phone calls from differernt numbers the fact is the complaints are all about the same dog at the same property so its obvious theres a link , its just plain commonsense that the dog has been visited , its fine , anymore complaints regardless of how many photos of a sleeping dog are sent in and phonecalls from differernt nos are made ,should be treated the same way the rspca , its pretty obvious its malicious and in no way urgent . it beggars belief that they seem to be taking the easier option of harrassing you rather than tell this sad loser to politely fuck off and stop wasting their time .

This is my train of thought. You can clearly see this is malicious but apparently once they get 1 complaint they must investigate. But because I've had 4 in the space of 2 days with photos it's classed as an emergency a quick view of the dog will not suffice and especially because the vet agrees the dog look lethargic HmmConfused
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