To think that liking white (grape) wine isn't something should be so snobby about.

[Bellyundertit]

I am not a frequent drinker of wine. But I find that people tend to love red wine. But drinking white (grape) wine is looked down upon. I don't care about your wine taste. It doesn't bother me. If you drink wine ...it doesn't matter. It's just bloody wine.urghh

[quote Zhampagne]@LadyJaye Aldi sometimes has crémant d’Alsace Their crémant du Jura is excellent.[/quote]
Aldi and Lidl's wine list is FANTASTIC: bit hit and miss sometimes, but you can get some cracking stuff there, especially French and German wines. I currently have half a case of Picpoul from Lidl's in the back room and it is awesome.

I'll keep an eye out for the Cd'A, thank you for the tip!

Is the OP talking about Shloer? That's white grape stuff wine and I'm pretty snobby about that.

I’ve never encountered any snobbery associated with white wine. I’m not sure it actually exists.

@Pinkywoo

Indeed. I've skimmed the entire thread just to check whether anyone has asked if OP's friends have ever thrown their white (grape) wine at a wall?

Perhaps there was even a dead wasp?

OwlBeThere

"Who peels all the grapes to make white wine? What a fucking tedious job that must be."

I just hope that wasn't a serious question?

Dry white wine is heaven, love the stuff

LadyJaye

Yes, I have tried CdA and CdL, still prefer the CdB. I also like Cava, the Co-op does a nice bottle.
Twenty plus years of motoring holidays to France have had a positive effect on my DW and I

@Toilenstripes

Go to dinner with a wine snob and order the house white. 😆 Just to troll them.

Surely a good palatable house wine (of any colour) is the mark of a good restaurant?

@andyoldlabour

LadyJaye

Yes, I have tried CdA and CdL, still prefer the CdB. I also like Cava, the Co-op does a nice bottle.
Twenty plus years of motoring holidays to France have had a positive effect on my DW and I

Glorious!

Like you, I love cremant and haven't met a person to whom I've introduced it who hasn't liked it yet - even those who claim not to like sparkling wine, which generally turns out to mean they don't like cheap Champagne (which is a terrible thing and really does down the rep of other perfectly lovely and much more affordable fizz). Also a big Cava fan.

Recently tried a fantastic English sparkling wine, too, but it was hideously expensive.

English sparkling wine is definitely far superior to the cheaper mass produced champagnes, unfortunately it is twice the price.

Bride Valley, Nyetimber and Cornwall/Camel Valley are my favourites. Definitely worth a splurge if you haven’t tried them yet.

@Worldgonecrazy

English sparkling wine is definitely far superior to the cheaper mass produced champagnes, unfortunately it is twice the price.

Bride Valley, Nyetimber and Cornwall/Camel Valley are my favourites. Definitely worth a splurge if you haven’t tried them yet.

I think I tried a Nyetimber wine? It was fantastic, but definitely a special occasion fizz at that price point.

I see they're doing some amazing things in Cornwall.

No such snobbery about rose wine exists in France, in fact their rose wines are absolutely superb (Anjou region). Only in this country where what most people know about wine could be written on the back of a postage stamp is there such a snooty connotation! The same people who don't know the joys of a cold white port aperitif or that English sparking wine (we can't use the C word) is some of the best in the world! There have been many, many times when wine buffs have been caught out in blind tastings. Drink what you enjoy - Cheers!

@LadyJaye, look out for Polgoon as well if you like Cornish sparklers. The vineyard is not far from where my mum lives. Just outside Penzance

I love love love a red wine.

@Gwenhwyfar

"At one of our meetings someone said "I don't like Chardonnay but I love Chablis". I had to point out very tactfully, that Chablis is only made from the Chardonnay grape."

I didn't know that! (I paid 10€ for a small glass of Chablis in a cafe in Paris!).

How much was a glass of Chardonnay???

I currently have half a case of Picpoul from Lidl's

Excellent taste @LadyJaye ! About to go out for a few more bottles -lovely stuff! I've also got their Cremant de Loire but should maybe give it a taste if I have to stock up on that too....

Never heard of this in my life @Bellyundertit

@Ginmakesitallok

I'm just confused why you had to include (grape) in your post??

Maybe in case people were imagining some sort of Finnish blueberry wine or that really nice Korean stuff described as 'black raspberry wine'.

I'm not sure I can get worked up about other people's wine preferences. I might raise an eyebrow if someone wanted a flavours of WKD pairing to go with a meal. But it'd be them that'd have to drink it not me. 😂

Literally never encountered this, there are some stunning white wines around as there are red. I think it’s a bit of a sexist thing tbh, red wine is seen as more serious and ‘manly’ to drink amongst men and white is seen as a cheap, sweet drink for women only . Lies!

Surely a good palatable house wine (of any colour) is the mark of a good restaurant

Indeed. Especially as restaurants are wise to the oft recommended 'pick the second cheapest wine on the menu' 'tip' when people are afraid of looking cheap by ordering the house wine. The second cheapest is likely to be the most profitable, but the house wine, which would be seen as a recommendation by the owner, should be decent value/quality and well matched to the style of food on offer.

I don't know anything about wine and am not particularly fussy. But what I do is that even so called 'experts' are unable to reliably tell between cheap, medium and expensive wine, so to me that just says it's all subjective and the 'you get what you pay for' rule absolutely does not apply. Just drink what you like and if you get the odd dud, it's not the end of the world.

Some years ago, we stayed with friends who live in Spain. The bloke's parents had been there just before we got there and had left behind some wine that was quickly polished off. We all agreed that it was quite nice and we said we'd get some more when we were in the supermarket.

Friend said his DF was a bit of a wine snob, so warned it might be a bit expensive. So we goes along to supermarket to find that the 'quite nice wine bought by mates wine snob DF' cost all of FORTY NINE CENTS A BOTTLE. . We may have bought a few bottles more.

@pinkpapaya English sparkling is amazing !!! Did you know taittinger (sp?) is investing heavily into it so they can have a slice of the pie when it really takes off?

White wine is often served too cold in restaurants. It should be around 12 C not the 4 C of most fridges. Otherwise the flavour does not come through

@andyoldlabour

I used to run a wine club decades ago and we would theme every meeting, red, white, sparkling, rose, Bordeaux blends etc. I found that most guys preferred reds. It is just down to personal taste. I love Rhone Valley reds, but would have a nice Provence rose with a Summer BBQ.

I'm with you wrt to Rhone Valley reds, I bloody love Crozes Hermitage.

I have only recently discovered white Cotes du Rhone though (after 50 years of wine drinking - why did no-one tell me about it sooner?) and some of them are fab - really quite complex and dry but not sharp.

I love red wine, but it can give me a very bad head. I find I have to stop after the first bottle, or I get a full-blown migraine.

You saying white 'grape' wine is putting my teeth on edge for some reason! It's white wine, surely?

@greeneyedlulu

You saying white 'grape' wine is putting my teeth on edge for some reason! It's white wine, surely?

As I have stated previously, not all white wine is made with white grapes! It is presumably about the grape colour not the wine colour. Champagne is made with red grapes.