The term "The Queen of England"

[DynamoKev]

In view of recent events this term has been appearing again.

My theory is that it originates from the USA - does anyone else agree or have a different view about where it started/is from?

royalcentral.co.uk/features/insight/queen-elizabeth-ii-is-not-the-queen-of-england-is-it-so-hard-to-get-it-right-138067/

@CheeseCakeSunflowers

She's Queen of 16 different countries so including them all would be a bit of a mouthful.

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica, Barbados, The Bahamas, Grenada, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Antigua and Barbuda, Belize and St Kitts and Nevis, Head of the Commonwealth, Supreme Governor of the Church of England, Duke of Normandy, Duke of Lancaster, Lord of Mann and Paramount Chief of Fiji.

Or Queen Elizabeth if you might pass out for lack of oxygen before you got to the end of that lot.

Plus, this is clearly TAAT.
No it isn't.

It wasn’t only Albert who was German. Victoria was half German, her mother was from the Saxe-Coberg province, as was Albert.

The mention of the German connection was brought up in response to the statement that our Queen comes from a line of Scottish Sovereigns, which isn’t true. Although if you go far enough back, you get to the Stuart line.

I find the history fascinating, which is why I got drawn into that side-track.

It's not a TAAT. Just because someone brings up the issue as an aside in another thread does not make it a TAAT. It comes up now and again in threads about the RF.

@Mittens030869

It wasn’t only Albert who was German. Victoria was half German, her mother was from the Saxe-Coberg province, as was Albert.

The mention of the German connection was brought up in response to the statement that our Queen comes from a line of Scottish Sovereigns, which isn’t true. Although if you go far enough back, you get to the Stuart line.

I find the history fascinating, which is why I got drawn into that side-track.

But still. You wouldn't refer to someone whose great great grandparents were from anywhere else in the world, who had lived in this country their entire life, and whose parents had lived in this country their entire lives as anything other than British.

The English can keep her.

I don't bloody want her.

But the German connection is through those Scottish sovereigns: a daughter of a Stuart princess who married the elector of Hanover.

Also don't forget the Danes. Lots of Danish princes and princesses married into the British RF. Including Prince Philip.

This is one time that I couldn't care less about England being used when someone actually means the UK/Britain etc.

The English can keep her. I don't have anything against her, specifically. Just against the whole idea that being born into one specific family somehow makes you more special than anyone else, and that us plebs should pay for their lavish lifestyle

Exactly

@Queenoftheashes

Let’s be real, the Queen is German. But she is the queen of Scotland so id say it’s fine to say that. Who else is the queen of Scotland?

The Queen is half Scottish. More Scottish than she is German.

@Somethingsnappy

Is that not her title though, like the prince of Wales, Duke of Edinburgh etc? I may very well be wrong about that though! But it was my assumption.

You are wrong

@Rukaya

So why just mention one as ifIt is somehow more important?

Because it is? She's English. She comes from a very long line of English Royals, she's born and lived English...do you think that being queen of The Bahamas is in anyway as important?

She comes from a long and very mixed lineage

Thick as mince as I said

Thick as mince as I said

I know the Queen was severely under-educated, but calling her thick as mince seems a little harsh. I hear she knows a lot about horses, as useful as that may be.

@Rukaya

Thick as mince as I said

I know the Queen was severely under-educated, but calling her thick as mince seems a little harsh. I hear she knows a lot about horses, as useful as that may be.

Well at least she owns her lack of knowledge

Pretty sure she knows her ancestry too. And where she lives

just get rid of the lot of them and then we won't have to worry about all this.

Gosh there is a lot of hate for the Royal Family on here. Such a shame as they attract so much tourism.
Who’d want to visit London if we had a president?

@Bloodypunkrockers, read the thread!!

Pretty sure she knows her ancestry too. And where she lives

As do the rest of us.

[quote Somethingsnappy]@Bloodypunkrockers, read the thread!! [/quote]
I've read it

What's your point?

Who’d want to visit London if we had a president?

God yeah. I mean, New York, not a single tourist, ever. Or Dublin. Or Rome. No monarchy and therefore no tourism.

@Rukaya

Pretty sure she knows her ancestry too. And where she lives

As do the rest of us.

. I expect you're right let The knowledge of history expressed on this thread is impressive.

@SenecaFallsRedux

But the German connection is through those Scottish sovereigns: a daughter of a Stuart princess who married the elector of Hanover.

Also don't forget the Danes. Lots of Danish princes and princesses married into the British RF. Including Prince Philip.

But. But.

The English their history

She's English. From a longline of English sovereigns.

And lives in England.

Don't go posting facts and sense

nice to live in a country where a symbol of inequality and hereditary privilege is apparently the main tourist draw

@Rukaya

Who’d want to visit London if we had a president?

God yeah. I mean, New York, not a single tourist, ever. Or Dublin. Or Rome. No monarchy and therefore no tourism.

Do you know how much revenue the royal family brings into the UK? The sovereign grant is a damned sight smaller than when they provide for the treasury. Britain will never be a republic thank god. And London is a shit hole

Americans call us all English. They like English tea and English towns and English countryside.
And playing with guns.

"Who’d want to visit London if we had a president?

God yeah. I mean, New York, not a single tourist, ever. Or Dublin. Or Rome. No monarchy and therefore no tourism."

France is the no.1 country in the world for tourism and is a Republic. The palaces would still be there without a royal family.