to think peoples attitudes are just going to contribute to more lockdowns?

[firthy85]

ok. i have always been an advocate to get back our freedom but sensibly. went out yesterday to a local pub for a couple of hours and couldn't believe it. its a great pub lovely atmosphere and staff and has always been a child/dog friendly pub. no social distancing at all, at one point i was squished on a bench between about 5 people. kids running in and out of the pub messing about etc. i totally get that yesterday was a novelty to many people after being locked down since the beginning of november but i feel this total lack of self control is going to end badly for everyone. did you risk going out at all yesterday? aibu?

I didn't do anything much yesterday, knew it would be like this.

I want to get back to pubs and shops but I didn't want to be in that initial crazy rush. In a few weeks/ months when people have got it out of their system I will go for a drink.

You didn't have to join them or forget social distancing.
It's difficult to complain when you were involved too.
I was enviously looking at the celebrations.

A fair degree of non-compliance is accounted for in most social models, so I imagine the lockdown exit map is no different. That's to say the timescales and limitations are adjusted to allow for the fact that people won't follow "the rules" with 100% compliance. Whilst I might be concerned if they were having a massive indoor party, I think you will give yourself a hernia if you're going to get worked up about outdoor socialising at this point.

I see what you are saying firthy and I agree with you. However nice it is to enjoy a move towards something more normal, we can still be concerned that so many are acting as if we are back where we were in February 2020.
My worrying sight was out local bakers shop - a tiny place - with a queue outside that wasn't distanced or masked. One shopper inside as per instructions, but neither he or any of the staff were wearing masks. We're not at that stage yet and surely you had to be hiding under a rock not to realise that?

Hopefully as it was outside the risk is minimal.

I went to the pub beer garden yesterday and it was thoroughly enjoyable! Yes it was pretty full, but DH and I had our own table, the sun was shining and it felt good to be out.

This reminds me of that woman on the news, she was on the beach and complained it was busy and everyone was out during Covid, whilst she herself did the same thing. 😂

Op if you were concerned you’d not have been first in the queue, I mean what were you, there an hour after they opened? Crammed on a bench? Right next to strangers, which no face mask?

i wasn't moaning as such just taking the longer term view that if we carry on the same path as yesterday the normality we are all craving will be lost

Sounds like moaning to me.

Suck it up sister - or don't go to the pub.

@SpnBaby1967

Let me get this straight.

You went to the pub, on the FIRST day they reopened and are now moaning that other people also decided to go to the pub.

If you were squished on a bench and felt it was unsafe why didnt you leave/get up before you were "squished" ?

Anyone would have been able to predict yesterday would be busy!

This.

My mum yesterday was complaining about all the people in B&Q "why are they all here?!" Etc. I reminded her that she was one of those people...

I think that we cannot know about new variants and how they will impact, so we can only deal with the situation as it is now, and covid now is very low.

To me, it seems is really important to act as normally as possible while we have the opportunity. It will not be the "fault" of people if new variants emerge and spread. Sometimes I think people forget why we have endured all of this.

@MissingMyOldLife

I love all these double standards. There were a couple of elderly women out shopping yesterday on the TV. They were less than 1m apart and moaning about there being too many people out.

I saw them I think and thought why didn't they just go home when they saw how busy it was instead of carry on shopping.

@ilovesooty

the greater population - sorry.

I didn't want to to go to a pub and risk this kind of lack of distancing yesterday. No one I know did either.

I may do so when things settle down a bit. If the OP felt the atmosphere was unsafe he should have challenged it or left

Yes exactly my point- no one is forcing anyone out, but stop forcing everyone to stay in! I don’t care if you don’t want to go to the pub, I care that I want to go swimming with my children (for example).

@stablefeet

I see what you are saying firthy and I agree with you. However nice it is to enjoy a move towards something more normal, we can still be concerned that so many are acting as if we are back where we were in February 2020. My worrying sight was out local bakers shop - a tiny place - with a queue outside that wasn't distanced or masked. One shopper inside as per instructions, but neither he or any of the staff were wearing masks. We're not at that stage yet and surely you had to be hiding under a rock not to realise that?

Pls enlighten me as to what stage we will be back to normal? We lowered the R rate, we flattened the curve, we saved the nhs- what do you want??? Covid isn’t going anywhere, a certain number of people will die a year from it, like so many illnesses.

That's up to you then. You've felt like it was a bit crowded but you didn't want to waste your £6 taxi fare so for you personally the risk of catching covid from an overcrowded situation is worth less than £6.

There are plenty of pubs only taking bookings for tables and no walk in. Just book one of those next time.

So what if the numbers go up ? As long as this isn't mirrored by ITU admissions and deaths it's not an issue - which is what the vaccine is meant the prevent. The vulnerable have been vaccinated.
At some point normal life has to begin again otherwise the government might as well just issue us all with a bullet and we can put an end to the misery. If it doesn't get better now it never will so at some point we will have to admit defeat and get on with it.

DH and I went for a walk yesterday afternoon. On the way back we passed our local, but it was full, so we carried on walking. We have both been vaccinated, but will wait until the novelty wears off before going.

First day back though , it was like the queuing outside Manchester arndale centre and police had to come to get them to distance .
People are thick but why in gods name would you go on the first day to complain about the people? .
If what you are saying is true then they are breaking the rules but that doesn’t mean all pubs are like that . It actually annoys me that people blame pubs for spreading, the majority are working really hard to follow the rules . Of course there are one or 2 not following the rules properly but maybe it should be pointed out to them or if it’s as bad as you say leave and report them .
We all want to go out safely but I don’t condone rule breaking . I feel like people like you op have gone out yesterday just to complain.

i am sure some people don't read a thread in its entirety. i admitted that the thread its self sounded like i felt personally agrieved at what was happening around me and maybe i should have lenghthened the thread more to put my personal view forwards but i did state on many replies later that i enjoyed it, that whole being out and was lovely to catch up with faces i hadn't seen much of since november but. i am fully aware i have maybe contributed somewhat. i was thinking of the broader outlook on the whole what may end up happening if we totally lose our inhibitions now we can meet friends in social settings. maybe nothing, maybe we will be totally free in june, no sd, and i for one will be having one hell of a party. but it does make you wonder. that's all i meant by the thread

Too funny! People outraged that others are doing exactly what they themselves are doing 😁😁. Do you not see how ridiculous you are?

Went out for lunch with family and drinks with friends early evening both outdoors both distanced table service. If I’d felt at risk vote would have votedwith feet and left!

I think YABU to be honest. At the last count isn’t it approx 30 million people have been vaccinated? That’s the last time I looked a couple of weeks ago so it’s going to be more now. Most people I know age 30 plus have now been vaccinated. Half the population at least. It’s done now. The majority of those people squished up are going to be vaccinated or have herd immunity because everyone else is vaccinated.

We’re done.

Life can now resume.

You were contributing to it?

No you didn’t op your thread title was peoples attitudes will contribute to further lockdowns not I went out yesterday and had a lovely time . You know exactly what you are doing . you are the people so if you think that then don’t contribute.