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to think peoples attitudes are just going to contribute to more lockdowns?

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firthy85 · 13/04/2021 05:33

ok. i have always been an advocate to get back our freedom but sensibly. went out yesterday to a local pub for a couple of hours and couldn't believe it. its a great pub lovely atmosphere and staff and has always been a child/dog friendly pub. no social distancing at all, at one point i was squished on a bench between about 5 people. kids running in and out of the pub messing about etc. i totally get that yesterday was a novelty to many people after being locked down since the beginning of november but i feel this total lack of self control is going to end badly for everyone. did you risk going out at all yesterday? aibu?

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firthy85 · 13/04/2021 09:35

sheesh. ok stop being selective readers and read my other replies about where i stated that personally for me i enjoyed it. i simply stated what was happening around me and wondering about what impact it could all have in the end. not my personal feelings.on the whole i enjoy this board and threads but sometimes it comes across like people are half reading someone's thread and then flaming the op totally ignoring any further replies they may have made

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LolaSmiles · 13/04/2021 09:35

So Op, you went out the first day of lockdown release, you enjoyed your day, but now you're worried that other people who might be having too much fun, will force us into another lockdown, got it!!
That's how it comes across.
If a pub isn't operating in a way that is appropriate for a risk assessment then as a customer we have a choice to stay or leave. I'd have no issues politely declining a table I'd booked if it was clear they were crowding as many people close together as possible. If I chose to stay then moaning that other people were there would be silly

thebillyotea · 13/04/2021 09:37

The local papers and social media put a lot of photos of Primark. People did queue. Social distancing was very well respected, the shop was very quiet inside at all time. I nearly wished I had gone myself, it looked so well organised.

Aldi on the other hand.. was the usual free for all, but we need food.

Ohnomoreno · 13/04/2021 09:38

I dont think lockdown was the right policy, as I think the alternative would have been absolutely dire but also self policing. So no, I don't agree with you, as I see no damn point in staying alive just to be hectored to stand/sit/queue in the right place for the rest of my life. My children's lives will be blighted by the debt for decades. And I'm supposed to think young people are selfish.

Walkaround · 13/04/2021 09:39

Well, if they’re surge testing for the South African covid variant in Lambeth and Wandsworth and the Astra Zeneca vaccine is thought to provide only around 10% protection against that strain, I hope people from Wandsworth and Lambeth weren’t partying as hard as everyone else yesterday.

AlternativePerspective · 13/04/2021 09:42

People are making the mistake of celebrating and going a little wild because it's finally over. It's not, not by a long shot. The worst may well be still to come. the sheer glee with which some are almost willing things to get worse and worse is pretty tiresome.

First it was “there will be more waves. Then it was the vaccination won’t work/they’ll never be able to create a vaccination, look at HIV by way of an example. Hmm And now that there is a vaccine and it’s working people are saying “well, there will be variants you know, and the vaccines won’t be able to fight those. And the worst is yet to come.

It must be exhausting to live like that.

And you know what? Maybe it will, maybe it won’t. Maybe there will be other pandemics, maybe there won’t. Maybe you’ll go out tomorrow and be hit by a truck, maybe you won’t.

I know only too well about long-term effects of an illness. Flu 4.5 years ago and now I’m in heart failure, heading towards the transplant list (although I am very fortunate to be well enough not to be there at the moment,) bu life goes on.

We’ve always had illnesses where people have had long-term effects. Polio, smallpox, TB, rubella. All of which have either been eradicated (smallpox) or considerably lessened because of vaccinations.

COVID is one in many illnesses which has the potential to cause serious illness and death. The reason why we are so on top of it is because it’s new, and every symptom, every treatment, every after effect is a new discovery.

But it won’t always be like that. COVID will be replaced by something else one day. Not necessarily something which has the same impact, but there will be new discoveries, new victims, new symptoms, and new treatments. It’s a fact of life.

We need to be careful, and I agree that swarming to the pub isn’t the way to do it, hence why I didn’t go there yesterday and am not planning to any time soon.

But if you don’t want things to increase again, then don’t complain about being one of the people packed into a pub. You didn’t have to stay.

Ohnomoreno · 13/04/2021 09:43

@Isaidnope I have three children. Without the two households rule, they would continue to be unable to see their grandparents. Surely that is unreasonable. People breaking the rules will break them anyway, why penalise families who want to see another family after nearly a year.

Rosehip10 · 13/04/2021 09:46

Oh joy, the daily mail readers and their descriptions of "covidiots" are back.

Moomin12345 · 13/04/2021 09:48

Ah, the hypocrisy.

VapeVamp12 · 13/04/2021 09:52

I thought pubs HAD to take table bookings and you have to remain seated unless using the toilet indoors - and you then have to wear a mask?

I didn't go to our local yesterday but when I drove past it was very socially distanced (they have a big front garden) and everyone was sitting down, mainly in couples.

Sounds like the pub you went to isn't able to comply with current COVID guidelines, and probably shouldn't open until the next lot of restrictions are lifted.

lynsey91 · 13/04/2021 09:54

Some people are just morons. Me and DH are staying in an hotel at the moment as we have to sort out my parents' house.

We got in the lift yesterday (the normal tiny hotel lift) and a girl of about 25 got in with us. As she got in she took her mask off!

DH asked her to step out and get the other lift and she asked why. I said that we are not allowed in lifts together and she looked puzzled. Where has she been for the last year?

VegCheeseandCrackers · 13/04/2021 10:01

Being from NI and not being able to go out to non essential shops, hairdressers or bars or restaurants I am just reading this thread with jealousy lol

TeddingtonTrashbag · 13/04/2021 10:02

the sheer glee with which some are almost willing things to get worse and worse is pretty tiresome.
Well said

LongHotSummerJustPassedMeBy · 13/04/2021 10:02

@firthy85

sheesh. ok stop being selective readers and read my other replies about where i stated that personally for me i enjoyed it. i simply stated what was happening around me and wondering about what impact it could all have in the end. not my personal feelings.on the whole i enjoy this board and threads but sometimes it comes across like people are half reading someone's thread and then flaming the op totally ignoring any further replies they may have made

Ok, but sitting in the middle of a crowded area and wondering about where it will all end seems like unnecessary risk at the moment. People are still catching the virus and dying.

TeddingtonTrashbag · 13/04/2021 10:03

DH asked her to step out and get the other lift
Did he mean to be so rude?
What a charmer (not)
LTB

MiddleParking · 13/04/2021 10:07

Asking someone to get out a lift Shock

bishbashbosh99 · 13/04/2021 10:10

Ffs! I had a lovely day at the pub yesterday, if I felt too close to someone then I moved, because you know, I'm an adult and responsible! Get a grip, you should stay in if you can't manage yourself and freak out enough to post about it

Confusedandshaken · 13/04/2021 10:11

I've just arranged to meet friends later at a local pub. If I get there and there is no social distancing I will go home. No one can force me to sit squished on a bench with other people.

firthy85 · 13/04/2021 10:21

the pub in question is just a drinkers pub. they try to observe the rule of 6 when they see it but because they are in and out all the time they can't exactly police it easily. you can book a table if you want but you don't have to. when it reopened after lockdown 1 they were letting a limit of 50 people only which was manageable because as a rule it never gets that busy except on weekends. they did put an age limit on people coming in on weekends due to some problems they were having with the under 25's mainly breaking social distancing messing about and causing trouble. so on the whole i think the pub its self is fine and they are trying. its that everyone and yes including myself totally lost any inhibitions because we were all just glad to be out so after i got home i just found myself reflecting on where we could be in the next few months if these paterns increase. i know its kinda weird wording on my original op but that's what i meant

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firthy85 · 13/04/2021 10:27

and obviously i am not going to play musical chairs every 5 minutes just because someone i don't know comes a bit too close nobody would. so i don't have the answer genuinely

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ilovesooty · 13/04/2021 10:31

@TeddingtonTrashbag

DH asked her to step out and get the other lift Did he mean to be so rude? What a charmer (not) LTB
Perfectly reasonable request.
ilovesooty · 13/04/2021 10:32

@MiddleParking

Asking someone to get out a lift Shock
Why not?

The lift at my office building has a one in one out policy.

Sirzy · 13/04/2021 10:38

Why not pick to go to places that are actually enforcing the rules then? If somewhere is letting tables mix like that they are part of the issue and you can take your business elsewhere

lynsey91 · 13/04/2021 10:46

@MiddleParking

Asking someone to get out a lift Shock
You are not allowed in a lift with others. Do you not know that? There are signs outside and inside the lift.
lynsey91 · 13/04/2021 10:48

@TeddingtonTrashbag

DH asked her to step out and get the other lift Did he mean to be so rude? What a charmer (not) LTB
He asked her politely. What was he meant to say?

Not only are you not allowed to get into a lift with others, she made it worse by taking her mask off as she entered the lift.

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