They are keeping Andrew out the way, arent they?

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On the bbc news, 3 out 4 of the queen's children wished to say something in tribute to their father...

Andrew is obviously been kept on the back burner. They must know there's only so much the less fawning of us can take.

Did you see Andrew on the news? He's usually a pompous arse, but he was thanking the media so much!!! He's trying to get back in their good books!

@CallmeHendricks

Slightly off-topic, but I think that Sophie Wessex is one of the Royal Family's biggest assets, along with Anne.

Didn't she get in trouble for accepting cash to introduce clients to royalty?! Regardless, she headed a PR company so knows EXACTLY what to do to come across as one of the 'good'uns'.

Didn't she get in trouble for accepting cash to introduce clients to royalty?!

That was Fergie. Sophie’s business partner also suggested in the Fake Sheik tapes that if people paid enough Edward could be brought with Sophie, but Sophie herself didn’t. She did say that businesses often hired her company because of who she was, which was enough for the Queen to say enough (and imo is exactly why the Queen and Charles were never going to agree to the half-in-half-out plan for Harry and Meghan - they know it doesn’t work).

Sophie’s big fuck up, other than getting caught by the NOTW, was that she talked politics, she absolutely slated Tony Blair and the Labour parties policies at the time. She also talked about the royal family, including the comments about the Charles and Camilla situation.

[quote forfucksakenett]@Alsohuman do the British media doorstep the RF? I'm not sure they do tbh. Certainly I've never seen it apart from with Diana and with Kate Middleton before she married William.

I'd be very surprised if they decided to start after the death of PP.

Clearly they had the okay to ask the questions [/quote]
Of course they do! Remember how they hounded Diana? And William and Harry? All those pictures of tumbling out of nightclubs? And they certainly did on Sunday. The intrusive bastards even eavesdropped on a conversation Sophie had with someone else and reported that. They didn’t need permission. Christmas at Sandringham is a set piece and they’re expected to turn up.

@LDom you produce that definition and prove @Roussette point.

@Alsohuman as I said in my post Diana was the exception. And Kate to an extent. Taking pap pictures isn't the same as doorstepping.

@forfucksakenett, so you think the press were invited by the Palace press office to go along to the church on Sunday morning to speak to members of the royal family as they left?

@Alsohuman I think the press were hanging around as they do and an arrangement was made that Andrew would speak.

It doesn't have to be days in advance to be considered arranged.

@CallmeHendricks

Slightly off-topic, but I think that Sophie Wessex is one of the Royal Family's biggest assets, along with Anne.

I think its lovely how close Sophie is with the Queen and Prince Philip. Thought she has acted with such dignity and class in the past few days.

[quote forfucksakenett]@Alsohuman I think the press were hanging around as they do and an arrangement was made that Andrew would speak.

It doesn't have to be days in advance to be considered arranged.

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So they were doorstepped - that’s what the press hanging around speculatively is called. Who was the arrangement made with? Did someone whip their phone out and ask the press office who should speak to them? It’s nonsense. A reporter spoke to him and he answered. Simple as that.

@Alsohuman

No doorstepped is far more intrusive than hanging around speculatively. If you want to see examples then have a look at Jeremy Corbyn's treatment or more recently Nicola Sturgeon as she tried to go to work one morning.

If you think they chose a few days after PP's death to start haranguing senior male members of the Royal Family without some sort of consent then you are absolutely deluded.

Of course it will have been agreed that certain members of the press could be there to ask a couple of sensitive questions. This is the first showing of the RF after the death of a major member of it, the press aren't going to push it.

This is not doorstepping which would be a pack of journos pushing mics and cameras in someone's face.

I’m afraid it’s not me who’s deluded. And you don’t understand what doorstepping is either, it’s not necessarily aggressive.

Here’s the dictionary definition Doorstepping, or door-stepping, is an attempt to obtain an interview, or piece to camera, from a contributor without prior arrangement or agreement, typically by confronting them in a public space, such as outside their home, workplace, or courthouse

Did they harangue anyone?

As we thought...

metro.co.uk/2021/04/12/prince-andrew-hopes-prince-philips-funeral-will-be-comeback-14398999/

Prince Andrew is ‘increasingly confident’ he will be able to return to some royal duties and ‘save his reputation’, reports claim. The disgraced Duke of York hopes the public will soften their stance towards him as he consoles the Queen following the death of Prince Philip, sources close to him have said.

The source added: ‘He hopes the public, if he’s supporting his mother in this difficult time, might give him the benefit of the doubt. He hopes there is a way back.’ Prince Andrew’s allies hope Brits will sympathise as they see him grieve at the Duke of Edinburgh’s televised funeral on Saturday.

@Roussette

As we thought...

metro.co.uk/2021/04/12/prince-andrew-hopes-prince-philips-funeral-will-be-comeback-14398999/

Prince Andrew is ‘increasingly confident’ he will be able to return to some royal duties and ‘save his reputation’, reports claim. The disgraced Duke of York hopes the public will soften their stance towards him as he consoles the Queen following the death of Prince Philip, sources close to him have said.

The source added: ‘He hopes the public, if he’s supporting his mother in this difficult time, might give him the benefit of the doubt. He hopes there is a way back.’ Prince Andrew’s allies hope Brits will sympathise as they see him grieve at the Duke of Edinburgh’s televised funeral on Saturday.

Ultimately though it doesn't matter what he wants, the Palace will make any decision and I can't see them being overly keen to be honest given the reputational damage its already caused .

@Alsohuman I don't mean to be rude but your definition proves my point and not yours. Yes I would say an attempt to gain something without consent or prior arrangement is aggressive as is the idea of confronting someone publicly in a private space.

That was a clearly arranged interview. It may only have been arranged in the minutes preceding but it was arranged nonetheless.

I'll say it again. Do you really think that the press would suddenly only a few days after Philip's death decide to start approaching senior male members of the Royal family unannounced despite them never having really done it before?

He was on the BBC two days ago being interviewed about his dad. It blows your theory out of the water!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2021/apr/11/andrew-and-edward-remember-father-prince-philip-video?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

[quote forfucksakenett]@Alsohuman I don't mean to be rude but your definition proves my point and not yours. Yes I would say an attempt to gain something without consent or prior arrangement is aggressive as is the idea of confronting someone publicly in a private space.

That was a clearly arranged interview. It may only have been arranged in the minutes preceding but it was arranged nonetheless.

I'll say it again. Do you really think that the press would suddenly only a few days after Philip's death decide to start approaching senior male members of the Royal family unannounced despite them never having really done it before? [/quote]
I don’t wish to be rude either but your reading and comprehension skills are sadly lacking if you think the dictionary definition proves your point!

Perhaps you could provide some evidence that it was “clearly arranged” because to me it was clearly informal and spontaneous, the press are chancers and they chanced.

Do you really think that the press would suddenly only a few days after Philip's death decide to start approaching senior male members of the Royal family unannounced despite them never having really done it before?

Of course I do. Why do you think they hate the press so much? They have form for it.

Was it you @alsohuman who said they worked in PR? ( Some one did on a thread about Andrew)
It’s not working by the way, whoever it was .
Again you are attempting to distract from the real issue by implying that Andrew was ‘ doorstepped’ by a band of journalists who forced him to speak.
Utterly ludicrous.
Andrew spoke ( whether sanctioned by palace or not ) because he knew that no one would question him about Epstein at such a time . Simple as that . He / they hoped if he could pile up a few appearances like that the public will forget . No. The public seems very clear and fixed in their opinion of Andrew, thank god.

I don’t look at the daily mail but I imagine their readership is middle aged/ elderly and not likely to have broad ranging world view, shall we say . EXACTLY the cohort who are likely to be royalists . If they are against him , he’s finished .

The press are chancers but not generally where the RF is concerned. If you're not willing to consider how they have previously behaved and use that as some kind of evidence then I'm not sure that you are willing to look at the bigger picture and this conversation is therefore pointless.

Same goes with the definition of doorstepping. That interview outside the church was clearly not doorstepping but again you're not willing to engage with the actual examples of what doorstepping is, and what the definition that you provided suggests it is.

For some people these idiots can do no wrong. It's sad but it explains why our country is the way it is tbh.

Ultimately though it doesn't matter what he wants, the Palace will make any decision and I can't see them being overly keen to be honest given the reputational damage its already caused

Yes. And any further damage the Maxwell trial might do - too much risk.

@forfucksakenett, my issue here is the complete over reaction to a man being asked for a comment by the press after his father’s death.

Like you, I’m disgusted by his lack of cooperation with the Epstein investigation, his apparent complete lack of any contrition or concern for the victims and his arrogance. We couldn’t agree more.

Whatever that rag, The Mail, says I sincerely hope he has to lie low for the rest of his life but I really can’t get upset about him making a few banal comments about his dad dying. He didn’t even manage that very well.

I’ve just read the comments in the Metro link.
100% extremely negative about Andrew, many mentioning FBI.

What he has done is reinvigorate the anger re the FBI interview and draw attention to himself and his relationship with Epstein and Maxwell.
All at the time of his father’s death.
A nod at journalists from afar would have been enough. No one forced him to speak @alsohuman. You are really stretching credulity in your posts.