To think it’s about time all women were Ms or Mrs following this plane error

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www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/09/tui-plane-serious-incident-every-miss-on-board-child-weight-birmingham-majorca

The confusion caused here could have had dire consequences.

Isn’t it about time we dropped the title ‘Miss’ to differentiate between adult women and girls?

bluebluezoo yes, I agree with everything you're posting here.

It infuriates me how many women seem prefect happy to have their availability or otherwise for me announced in their name.

I very much wish we would update and move to a system of one title for female children and another for adult human females 😉

YANBU time to remove Miss as an option!

I am a Miss. I love being a Miss. It's my title, and no one has any right to take that away from me.

Young me was happy with Miss I thought Ms was for middle aged woman and would have been mortified to be called it. Now I'm old I say I'm a Ms 😆

Yabu no female should be defined by marital status. Scrap the lot.

It infuriates me how many women seem prefect happy to have their availability or otherwise for me announced in their name.

Why? I am a Miss and happy to be so. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you get to dictate how I choose to name myself.

I've decided my title is lady from now on.
Just to be awkward.

I think you should be able to call yourself whatever title you want before your name - I favour ‘supreme being’ - but can’t understand why titles are needed at all. Surely sex and date of birth give the answers needed for flights.

Surely there needs to be a box for child weight/ adult weight for the system? To rely solely on a title isn't helpful!

its not rocket science (ha ha) for every adult seat booked there should be an adult allowance of fuel added. This has nothing to do with titles and everything to do with cutting safety margins

@TestingTestingWonTooFree

I don’t think that’s a good reason. Presumably they can manage when Mister and Master are both shortened to Mr. I do think it would be good if women actively made choices about their name/title, particularly on marriage.

DSs title was shortened to Mstr when we booked plane tickets to the US several years ago.

@MimiPigeon

YABU. Women should be able to call themselves anything they want. They don’t distinguish between men in any way - they’re all Mr.

No, the male equivalent to miss is master.

Haha Mstr for the little ones. Always makes me laugh when DS gets the Master letter from the bank.

@RevolutionRadio

I'd have thought they'd have based it on date of birth if they just use a weight for adults and children. They'll have that for all passengers.

Very true! I’m even seeing the average adult weight of 69kgs and thinking really!!

I don’t actually care. I’m married now so Mrs, was Miss when single. I prefer first name to be honest, everything else sounds to formal.

It's always annoyed me that women are labelled according to their marital status but men are not. It's probably a relic of the bad old days when married women were regarded as their husbands' property, and unmarried women were "old maids". I've often thought there should be an alternative form of Mr to distinguish the bachelors from the husbands.

Voted wrong. Yabu actually. It's nothing to do with what you call yourself and everything to do with their stupid system.

@Lazierdays

I wish we could just have one title for women and one for men. I hate how women are always defined in relation to their Dad (Miss Smith) their husband (Mrs Brown) or their divorce (Ms Brown or Ms Smith). Seems archaic when the men are just Mr Jones their whole life.

You seem to be wrongly assuming that "Ms" means divorced.

I kept my married name after my divorce as my kids were still at school and I didn't want to have a different surname from them, especially as they were domiciled with me.

True, my older DD is now married and has changed her name but my younger DD hasn't and my DS never will. Moreover, I have spent more than ten years as a divorcee with this surname and just can't be bothered with the hassle and cost of changing everything this far down the line.
I retained Mrs as, though I am no longer, in the eyes of the law, my exH's wife, neither am I, nor have I ever been, my exH's daughter!

If Ms were spoken as, "Mistress" in the same way as, "Mister" is used for the written Mr, then I'd quite happily become a Ms, but I refuse to use a title which, when articulated, sounds unlike any other word in the English language but rather more like a bee with a speech impediment!

I don’t particularly want to be referred to as Ms thank you, I’m a Miss and I’m happy to stay that way. The article says it was a system error. Fix the error and job done.

When you fly to Spain you have to enter all your details which include date of birth of all passengers. What more do they need

I like being a Miss. I'm married and still use Miss as my preferred title.

What is a 'child's weight' anyway? A 2yo has their own seat and could be maybe 2 stone, a 15yo lad could be 11 stone.

What is a 'child's weight' anyway? A 2yo has their own seat and could be maybe 2 stone, a 15yo lad could be 11 stone

For airline purposes a child is 0-12. If you’ve ever flown you pay adult prices for 12 and over.

39kg is an average “childs weight”. So if you took 1000 0-12 year olds, and averaged their weight, that’s what it would be.

I didn't realise 12+ was an adult for airlines. I thought 2+ was the same as adult prices. I'm sure that's what I paid for ds1 once he hit 2 but I didn't pay that much attention to the individual prices I suppose

I thought Ms, was a woman who was divorced and Mrs is married. So I am Happy being a miss, I aren't married.
But to pile on the confusion. The doctors refer to my son as Mr, they have since the age of 5 or so, it caused problems as his dad is Mr Farrey, on my sons prescription he is Mr Farrey too. So when I asked for Morgan Farrey prescription, his dad had one in, I got asked which Mr Farrey. To which I replied Morgan isn't a Mr he is Master, as he is only a child, I didn't pick my partners up, as he has to pay and I didn't have the cash.