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To wish people would stop quoting a long post and typing This.

300 replies

CateTown · 05/04/2021 17:05

It's doing my head - and my scrolling finger - in.

OP posts:
SeasonFinale · 06/04/2021 00:30

at either = are other (DYAC)

EskSmith · 06/04/2021 01:15

@PolarnOPirate

I see your point but it’s also infuriating when someone on page 10 says ‘what *@username* said’ ...... I’m not going to search 10 pages of usernames to see what they agree with.
This ;)
EskSmith · 06/04/2021 01:18

@JesusInTheCabbageVan

The first person who writes a really, REALLY long, detailed, thoughtful response to the OP is going to break the thread. Grin

Am I going to try to be that person? Well...

It's an interesting point, OP, and I think several people have advanced some valid arguments both for and against the practice. I won't reiterate them here.

To properly address the issue, we first need to examine the etymology of the word 'this'. Wikipedia tells us that the word originates "[f]rom Middle English this, from Old English þis (neuter demonstrative), from North Sea Germanic base þa- "that", from Proto-Germanic þat, from Proto-Indo-European tód, extended form of demonstrative base to-; + North Sea Germanic definitive suffix -s, from Proto-Indo-European *só (“this, that”)."

So there's that.

Next, let's explore the origins and purpose of the website 'MumsNet'. Again, Wikipedia is our friend here.

Mumsnet was created by Justine Roberts who came up with the idea of a website to help parents pool information and advice following a disastrous first family holiday with her one-year-old twins. Once back in the UK, Roberts persuaded friends Carrie Longton and Steven Cassidy to help her build the site that is now regarded as one of the most influential women's sites in the UK.

In November 2009, the Prime Minister Gordon Brown, opposition leader David Cameron and many leading ministers took part in live webchats with Mumsnet users.

Mumsnet's 10th birthday party was hosted by Google UK at their London headquarters in March 2010. Guests included Ed Miliband and Steve Hilton, and both the then Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, and his wife Sarah Brown gave speeches. Gordon Brown referred to Mumsnet as one of the great British institutions. In May 2011 Roberts founded Gransnet, a sister site to Mumsnet for the over-50s.

Roberts, CEO, was named in the Media Guardian's 2010 power 100. In February 2013 Roberts and co-founder, Carrie Longton, were assessed as the 7th most powerful women in the United Kingdom by Woman's Hour on BBC Radio 4. Roberts was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) in the 2017 New Year Honours for services to the economy.

In 2018 Mumsnet had 1.3 billion page views from 119 million unique users, and revenue of £8.6 million.

In April 2020, Mumsnet announced a premium option.

Also of interest is the 'favourite biscuits' section:

David Cameron Oatcakes (Harrods brand)
Gordon Brown Did not answer (Easter Biscuit)
Nick Clegg Rich tea and Hob Nobs (greedy)
Ed Miliband Jaffa Cakes
Boris Johnson Chocolate Digestive (prick)
Nicola Sturgeon Tunnock's Caramel wafer
Nigel Farage Did not answer (prick)
Jeremy Corbyn Shortbread
John McDonnell Broken rich tea biscuits from his Mum's counter in BHS
Anna Soubry Ginger Nuts

But I think, ultimately, we need to consider the Talk Guidelines, which state:

No personal attacks
No posts that break the law, including hate speech of any kind
No trolling, misleading or deliberately inflammatory behaviour
No trollhunting
No spamming

Now, I think the practice you describe could not reasonably be described as a personal attack, hate speech, trolling or trollhunting.

'Spamming' is an interesting one. It is defined as 'sending the same message indiscriminately to (a large number of internet users)'. I think the key word here is 'indiscriminately'. If one were to quote a particular post, followed by the word 'This' on a large number of threads across MumsNet, then that would certainly be in breach of the Guidelines. However, I do not believe that quoting the same post on a single thread constitutes spamming, as the post would remain relevant and repeating it is not, therefore, indiscriminate.

But.... does the aforementioned practice (i.e. quoting a pp and then typing 'This') constitute deliberately inflammatory behaviour? Well, not ordinarily. However, IF someone were to start a thread professing their intense dislike of the aforementioned practice, and a number of posters chose to display the very same behaviour on the thread in question (perhaps by quoting a lengthy and detailed response in exactly the manner the OP finds most objectionable) then I think an argument could be made that the aforementioned practice does, in fact, breach the Talk Guidelines.

I do hope this helps.

And also this Grin
Kwackerly · 06/04/2021 04:12

I want a nodding sagely button. This.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 06/04/2021 04:19

Yup it'd fucking infuriating. I think sometimes people see the MN buzz phrases and just want to have a go themselves.
Add to the list
"chalk it up to experience"
"Get tour ducks in a row"

There ate more but my mind has drawn a blank, probably because it's 4.20am.

Kintsuji · 06/04/2021 05:02

@OlympicProcrastinator

Oh no. People not using MN as other posters want them to is a big problem this week.

This

So This Grin
ThornAmongstRoses · 06/04/2021 08:49

I wish that you could quote part of a post instead of an entire one. They may have written 15 paragraphs, but you are just trying to respond to one of them.

Rather than use the option to quote a whole message, I just bold the specific piece of the post that I want to respond to.
I.e I copy the section (from the posters message) and then paste it (into the comments and then put an asterisk the start and at the end.

eatsleepread · 06/04/2021 08:52

I totally agree with you, OP. There is no need to copy and paste the whole bloody post!

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2021 08:54

I will go out on a limb here. I have been on MN a reasonably long time (I can't say exactly how long because a klaxon goes off and a poster is funny about it) but I have NEVER seen anyone post 'Get your ducks in a row'. It could be because I have the Relationships topic hidden? Is that where all the ducks are neatly lined up? Grin

SummerHouse · 06/04/2021 09:11

Sparkling there are millions of ducks in a row - as many, if not more than left bastards (LTBs) in relationships. It's something I would have never said but as you read it for the 1297th time it just morphs into your language...

shouldistop · 06/04/2021 09:12

Oh no. People not using MN as other posters want them to is a big problem this week.

Also this Grin

Atalantea · 06/04/2021 09:12

@CateTown

It's doing my head - and my scrolling finger - in.
well the problem is, sometimes that post has everything you want to say, how else do you suggest they do it?
SummerHouse · 06/04/2021 09:12

🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆

EarringsandLipstick · 06/04/2021 09:12

@SummerHouse

Sparkling there are millions of ducks in a row - as many, if not more than left bastards (LTBs) in relationships. It's something I would have never said but as you read it for the 1297th time it just morphs into your language...
Brilliant 😂

Agree absolutely!

SummerHouse · 06/04/2021 09:51

.

SummerHouse · 06/04/2021 09:52

Sorry for the dot. That's much worse that "thising" something. Blush

LeonardLikesThisPost · 06/04/2021 12:30

I mean, this thread is a bloated mess cos of all the Mike Gigglers quoting things and posting "this", (or "not this", ho ho) which has made the OP's case for her 😁

You haven't made any points or "added to the discussion" or done anything a like button wouldn't have done. Not that I want a like button. It's just weird that the same people who think "this" is a valuable contribution are so vehemently opposed to a like 🤷

Fembot123 · 06/04/2021 12:36

@LeonardLikesThisPost

I mean, this thread is a bloated mess cos of all the Mike Gigglers quoting things and posting "this", (or "not this", ho ho) which has made the OP's case for her 😁

You haven't made any points or "added to the discussion" or done anything a like button wouldn't have done. Not that I want a like button. It's just weird that the same people who think "this" is a valuable contribution are so vehemently opposed to a like 🤷

You’re just sore because..not this.
19thNamechange · 06/04/2021 12:43

@Lessthanaballpark

Also, when someone quotes my post and "thisses" me, it just makes me feel so warm and fuzzy inside, like finally someone gets me!
This.
Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2021 13:16

What’s a Mike Giggler? Confused

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 06/04/2021 13:19

@Sparklingbrook

What’s a Mike Giggler? Confused
Brother to Mic Drop, perhaps?
Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2021 13:20

Actually don’t worry I Googled. Still Confused TBF.

Sparklingbrook · 06/04/2021 13:21

@LeonardLikesThisPost

I mean, this thread is a bloated mess cos of all the Mike Gigglers quoting things and posting "this", (or "not this", ho ho) which has made the OP's case for her 😁

You haven't made any points or "added to the discussion" or done anything a like button wouldn't have done. Not that I want a like button. It's just weird that the same people who think "this" is a valuable contribution are so vehemently opposed to a like 🤷

They were being ironic. 😂
KoalaOok · 06/04/2021 13:27

@SummerHouse

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KoalaOok · 06/04/2021 13:29

@JesusInTheCabbageVan

The first person who writes a really, REALLY long, detailed, thoughtful response to the OP is going to break the thread. Grin

Am I going to try to be that person? Well...

It's an interesting point, OP, and I think several people have advanced some valid arguments both for and against the practice. I won't reiterate them here.

To properly address the issue, we first need to examine the etymology of the word 'this'. Wikipedia tells us that the word originates "[f]rom Middle English this, from Old English þis (neuter demonstrative), from North Sea Germanic base þa- "that", from Proto-Germanic þat, from Proto-Indo-European tód, extended form of demonstrative base to-; + North Sea Germanic definitive suffix -s, from Proto-Indo-European *só (“this, that”)."

So there's that.

Next, let's explore the origins and purpose of the website 'MumsNet'. Again, Wikipedia is our friend here.

Mumsnet was created by Justine Roberts who came up with the idea of a website to help parents pool information and advice following a disastrous first family holiday with her one-year-old twins. Once back in the UK, Roberts persuaded friends Carrie Longton and Steven Cassidy to help her build the site that is now regarded as one of the most influential women's sites in the UK.

In November 2009, the Prime Minister Gordon Brown, opposition leader David Cameron and many leading ministers took part in live webchats with Mumsnet users.

Mumsnet's 10th birthday party was hosted by Google UK at their London headquarters in March 2010. Guests included Ed Miliband and Steve Hilton, and both the then Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, and his wife Sarah Brown gave speeches. Gordon Brown referred to Mumsnet as one of the great British institutions. In May 2011 Roberts founded Gransnet, a sister site to Mumsnet for the over-50s.

Roberts, CEO, was named in the Media Guardian's 2010 power 100. In February 2013 Roberts and co-founder, Carrie Longton, were assessed as the 7th most powerful women in the United Kingdom by Woman's Hour on BBC Radio 4. Roberts was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) in the 2017 New Year Honours for services to the economy.

In 2018 Mumsnet had 1.3 billion page views from 119 million unique users, and revenue of £8.6 million.

In April 2020, Mumsnet announced a premium option.

Also of interest is the 'favourite biscuits' section:

David Cameron Oatcakes (Harrods brand)
Gordon Brown Did not answer (Easter Biscuit)
Nick Clegg Rich tea and Hob Nobs (greedy)
Ed Miliband Jaffa Cakes
Boris Johnson Chocolate Digestive (prick)
Nicola Sturgeon Tunnock's Caramel wafer
Nigel Farage Did not answer (prick)
Jeremy Corbyn Shortbread
John McDonnell Broken rich tea biscuits from his Mum's counter in BHS
Anna Soubry Ginger Nuts

But I think, ultimately, we need to consider the Talk Guidelines, which state:

No personal attacks
No posts that break the law, including hate speech of any kind
No trolling, misleading or deliberately inflammatory behaviour
No trollhunting
No spamming

Now, I think the practice you describe could not reasonably be described as a personal attack, hate speech, trolling or trollhunting.

'Spamming' is an interesting one. It is defined as 'sending the same message indiscriminately to (a large number of internet users)'. I think the key word here is 'indiscriminately'. If one were to quote a particular post, followed by the word 'This' on a large number of threads across MumsNet, then that would certainly be in breach of the Guidelines. However, I do not believe that quoting the same post on a single thread constitutes spamming, as the post would remain relevant and repeating it is not, therefore, indiscriminate.

But.... does the aforementioned practice (i.e. quoting a pp and then typing 'This') constitute deliberately inflammatory behaviour? Well, not ordinarily. However, IF someone were to start a thread professing their intense dislike of the aforementioned practice, and a number of posters chose to display the very same behaviour on the thread in question (perhaps by quoting a lengthy and detailed response in exactly the manner the OP finds most objectionable) then I think an argument could be made that the aforementioned practice does, in fact, breach the Talk Guidelines.

I do hope this helps.

This
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