Double barrelled names?

[CantFightTheBeat]

Am I the only one to hate them?

Amelia-Rose or Lily-Mae etc. They’re everywhere. Someone I know recently revealed the name of their daughter and she was called similar to Amelia-Rose Mya Charlotte Smith, why so many god damn names for one kid.

I’ve also recently discovered double barrelled boys name are a thing like Charlie-James. I think I hate these more.

Please vote away and let me know if I’m unhinged.

@TiredSloth

*Erm...it's pretty much an indicator to avoid at all costs and it has served me well throughout years of attending toddler groups and now the school playground smile Not the child's fault though.*

@TheGumption but what exactly do you mean by that? So you’re at a toddler group and there’s a mum there on her own who looks nervous but because her dd is called Ella-Grace you would avoid her at all costs? For what reason? I don’t understand. Is it because she might be working class?

I wouldn't approach someone anyway, I'm not generally the outgoing, friend making parent at groups (when they were open). I like to go there to play with my kids. So that hypothetical situation just hasn't occurred. Don't care if someone is working class or if they're the Queen. I'm just yet to meet a parent of a something-Mae that I have anything in common with and unfortunately in my area they tend to be the parents that bitch and scrap amongst themselves and I'm not interested. I prefer to be on the outside of that little "situation".

@TheGumption thank you for avoiding, prevents children like mine having to interact with ignorant, pretentious people. Having a hyphenated first name is clearly a good tool for weeding out those to avoid and those who look at the person instead of the name

@TheGumption I would be happy for you to avoid me at all costs. I am now very comfortably middle class, with a Oxford degree and a good income. I come from a working class background though, so best avoid me and my child...

I have never had a scrap or bitch . Mine are long out of the toddler stage though, thank god.

You are so welcome. You're the only one seemingly obsessed with your middle class identifiers. I'm sorry the chip on your shoulder hasn't been fixed by "a Oxford degree" 😬
(And this is why I would avoid you).

I just think it’s horrible to judge someone by their name. You wouldn’t need to avoid me, I’m quite shy and wouldn’t approach anyone anyway! I probably do have a bit of a chip of my shoulder, so I should avoid threads like this. It’s that feeling that you’re never quite good enough.

• Erm...it's pretty much an indicator to avoid at all costs and it has served me well throughout years of attending toddler groups and now the school playground smile Not the child's fault though.*

This is despicable. I feel so naive because I’m what would be considered upper middle class/white collar job etc and it would never occur to be dismiss people based solely on what they chose to name their child. If after conversation or observation I discovered we have profoundly different values I probably wouldn’t actively pursue a friendship, but avoid at all costs is bizarre and extreme.

@WhoisRebecca

I just think it’s horrible to judge someone by their name. You wouldn’t need to avoid me, I’m quite shy and wouldn’t approach anyone anyway! I probably do have a bit of a chip of my shoulder, so I should avoid threads like this. It’s that feeling that you’re never quite good enough.

And yet you try to use your "comfortable middle-class" status in an attempt to put yourself above others. But that's okay? It's very interesting to observe. I actually couldn't care less about a name but it's fascinating to see how irate it makes people if you have a different opinion. Then the thinly veiled insults come out. I didn't mention class. That's the crux of it. As long as you are perceived to be something that makes you feel safe and not, shock horror, lower class, you don't mind what anyone thinks. 🤷‍♀️

They are not to my personal taste but to actively avoid people because their children have hyphenated names is shocking, Katie Hopkins is that you!

Although I would say I’m quite impressed that you would be so open about your opinion and own it.

@TheGumption But instead of judging people on what names they give their children, couldn’t you judge them by how they treat others? The parents of Jane and Peter could be just as ‘bitchy’ as the parents of Ella-May and John-Joe? I don’t understand why people judge so much as if they are superior?

I guess that’s my own insecurities @TheGumption. You’re right, of course that doesn’t make me better than anyone else and I don’t think it does either. It’s just I’m aware that people make negative judgements based on stereotypes. I’m not irate, I’m checking the thread while I wait for DH to buy paint😊

People definitely do, it’s human nature really. Most people would think things but not say them out loud.

I think that we all judge, but it’s important to be aware of that and challenge it. It’s prejudice, ultimately.

I actually couldn't care less about a name but it's fascinating to see how irate it makes people if you have a different opinion. Then the thinly veiled insults come out. I didn't mention class. That's the crux of it.

Lol at coming into a thread that has devolved into denigrating certain names based on perceived class, openly state you avoid people with those names at all costs, then pretending that the class and judgment implications of your comment are all in other people’s heads it’s a pretty disingenuous way to engage. Not surprising, I suppose, given the original comment.

Erm...it's pretty much an indicator to avoid at all costs and it has served me well throughout years of attending toddler groups and now the school playground smile. Not the child's fault though.

I’d say the loss is most definitely not theirs.

@WhoisRebecca

I think that we all judge, but it’s important to be aware of that and challenge it. It’s prejudice, ultimately.

It is and getting to know kids with said names helps to break down these prejudices in my experience.

Hate's a bit strong for this -- and it's pretty well-known that MN doesn't like them so unreasonable to ask if you're the only one.

I don't really have much feeling towards double names other than . And yes, it's been a thing for boys for a while - it's part of why initial nicknames like AJ are common in some areas for guys. More guys have them in my family than women unless we go back a few generations - then you get a lot of Mary X, Martha X or X Pearl or X Lou (none of them hyphenated). My maternal grandmother and her mother both had double names, it's not really new.

One of my DDs has a name that could be considered a double, though I guess since it's more similar to Annabelle than Anna-belle, most of the negative judgements might not affect her.

@littlepattilou

This is a mean-spirited, spiteful, nasty thread. *@CantFightTheBeat* You should be ashamed of yourself for starting this These sort of threads always bring out the nasty judgemental, holier-than-thou individuals on mumsnet.

Hilarious how some people are calling people chavs and low-class for having 'certain types' of names, and yet some people on here are coming across as more low-class and way more 'common' than the people they are sneering at. I think a few people on this thread were raised in a barn!

I’m not quite sure you can see the hypocrisy in your post. I can. That’s what I call hilarious.

Also, FWIW, I personally haven’t said anything about judging the children, their parents, their class etc. I just don’t like the names. I am ultimately not responsible for what other MN’s post.

@BiBabbles - it’s well known to you and others maybe, not to me.

I just find that currently they’re everywhere, lots and lots of little Miah-Maes and I personally would just rather have a Miah Mae Smith. Some people wouldn’t agree, I absolutely get that. It’s down to personal preference. I shared my opinion and I’m not against anyone else sharing theirs on this subject, hence the thread. If you have a child with a hyphenated name and this thread offends you then my honest opinion is you’re being a bit sensitive about what a few internet strangers think but obviously I didn’t mean to cause anybody upset, so for that I apologise.

My DS has a double-barrelled surname, I imagine we would come firmly under the chav/unmarried and no other male relative to continue the surname which I like and love to use in remembrance of my GF category.

A sensible post and exactly why we are doing the same.

So a nice name doesn't die out.

Funny how people can get so bent out of shape over it 😂

I thought this post was about first names not surnames?

It is.

I don’t mind double barrelled last names, a few children we know have them.

I really don’t understand hyphenated middle names. For example Amelia Lily-Rose Smith, makes no sense to me.

It is @Fembot123

I think I confused situations by calling them double barrelled names when I meant hyphenated! I didn’t realise until someone corrected me that there was even a difference.

@Fembot123

I thought this post was about first names not surnames?

I think its just snobbery about any use of punctuation in a name now!