To feel extremely depressed about how Brexit is limiting the lives we once knew.

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Presumably now, if you want to go shopping in Paris on the Eurostar, you will have to declare, queue and pay customs on any clothes / goods over a given amount at the border. How crap and inconvenient is that?

Same with any holiday purchases from anywhere in the EU? Not worth it.

Also if you order anything online that happens to come from the EU and costs over over £135, you get hit with massive customs charges of about 40%. Companies like Etsy etc are taking a massive hit as a result.

How is this “taking back control?” Its so depressing and backward. The only reason nobody is kicking off about this yet is because nobody could go anywhere anyway. People don’t realise the freedoms they had and that are now gone. What a shit and insular place to live this will be.

And I don’t wait to hear any predictable ‘vaccine nationalism’ waffle either (because that has nothing whatsoever to do with what I’m asking in this instance and we could have done exactly the same within the EU anyway).

@coogee There are significant differences between the UK and the Swiss home rental markets, though, which your comment doesn't cover?

Never mind the daffodils, who is going to work in the food processing factories, (currently Covid hotspots as no distancing), who is going to deal with crops such as potatoes, asparagus, etc? Pleased that the brexiteers are wealthy enough to pay for the increased food prices, but what about the rest of us?

I don’t know the Swiss manage provision for social housing or the elderly, or how they’re going to manage the current generation when they get old. It can be less simple to compare different systems than some like to pretend. I do know that of the few EU countries with lower house ownership than ours, Germany and Austria have rent controls and very strong rental laws, which the UK refuses to put into place. Our housing stock is in a dreadful state. The Netherlands has a very strong social housing sector. These are the things that matter to people - living costs over lifespan compared to income over the same, which for most of us means job wages - I.e. how hard it is to build lives here. It doesn’t matter how many of the well off try to tell us that it shouldn’t! Housing is a major factor in disaffection with the U.K in everyone I’ve ever spoken to.

think you've misunderstood what economics is.What makes the farmer a profit, and "basic economics" are not the same thing

I think you have. They are part of the same thing. Your bizarre notion that the way things work is to raise wages...what planet do you live on? Not this one, clearly.

Still no suggestions as to how Brexit will benefit anyone

The plan is to boost UK manufacturing:

30 March 2021 -
JCB has secured a £65 million order for 2,100 machines – the biggest order from a UK customer in the British manufacturer’s 75-year history.

www.mtdmfg.com/news/jcb-wins-record-65-million-order-for-2100-machines/

10 March 2021 -
More than 2000 jobs will be created at a new Teesside wind turbine blade manufacturing plant...

Officials say it will create 750 direct jobs and a further 1500 supply chain posts, adding Teesside beat off competition from a French site to house the plant.

The announcement – hailed by Prime Minister Boris Johnson as a key facet in driving the UK’s “green industrial revolution” – comes just days after Teesside was named the largest UK freeport in Chancellor Rishi Sunak’s Budget.

netimesmagazine.co.uk/news/more-than-2000-jobs-to-be-created-in-new-ge-renewables-energy-teesside-wind-turbine-blade-plant/

Why could they not have invested in wind turbines when we were in the EU? What was stopping us?

GE Renewable Energy is a division of General Electric headquartered in Paris, France.

Op, are you the same person who was moaning about buying a glass vase from Italy (or something) and having to pay customs charges? You sound an awful lot like her.

The plan is to boost UK manufacturing

That's not going to come close to offsetting all the jobs and industry lost. Estimated half a million jobs lost due Brexit already
smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/

Yes but what does that have to do with Brexit?

[quote Rukaya]The plan is to boost UK manufacturing

That's not going to come close to offsetting all the jobs and industry lost. Estimated half a million jobs lost due Brexit already
smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/[/quote]
Is this robust?

1. Barring other obvious explanations businesses that were doing okay but experienced a significant slowdown after the Brexit vote are deemed to have been impacted by Brexit.

How do they separate out Covid impact?

You go to Antwerp to buy diamonds, not Amsterdam. Just an FYI

How do they separate out Covid impact?

If you'd looked that was counting only up to end Jan 2020. There was no Covid impact.
The methodology is also right there.

Leading global economists agree that the UK will be ok, as at least we now have a bit more certainty, and are likely to be able to support and grow our GDP over the short to medium term, although likely not be in as strong a position as if we'd stayed a member of the EU.
To quote 'Britain has punched itself in the fsce'

@Rukaya

How do they separate out Covid impact?

If you'd looked that was counting only up to end Jan 2020. There was no Covid impact.
The methodology is also right there.

End Jan 2020

Impact from Covid has been from March 2019?

Oh wrong year how long has this pandemic been going on for?

I jest

So it’s a year old?

Impact from Covid has been from March 2019?

Covid didn't exist in March 19, wtf are you talking about?

@MarshaBradyo Covid shutdown of UK began March 2020. I know it all seems a bit of a very long blur.

@Rukaya

Impact from Covid has been from March 2019?

Covid didn't exist in March 19, wtf are you talking about?

Lol I know

Feels like an age

But really this report is very old if it’s over a year ago

The Teesworks development is a now a free port or "free zone" - presumably why GE Renewable Energy chose the UK site instead of the French site mentioned in the article. EU rules only allow a limited type of free port.

So there will be many more job losses due to Brexit since, but seperating them out from covid job losses will be very difficult. Good news for Boris, a handy scapegoat for him. But we know they are happening, all the same.

That is an economic bomb waiting to hit this country, as generations age and can no longer afford to pay rent on non-existent pensions. On the bright side few will be able to deny we’re in a two-tier society then, although many of the richest will lie through their teeth trying regardless.

I agree with you but how does Brexit help the position of those wishing to get on the housing ladder?

Rubbish. It's always been obvious that there would be an adjustment period of 3-5 years while Britain finds a new way forward, but people were willing to take the hit for a different future.

I assume you never did Law? The first thing a lecturer taught us on a Law course is words like 'obvious' and 'clearly' served to make his profession rich because of the time and money people expended going to court over them.

Can't say I've ever noticed a huge difference between travelling within Europe or travelling beyond. And as it's only once a year it's hardly life shattering.
Far bigger issues at play than this one.

It's quite common to buy pieces on holiday such as jewellery eg diamonds in Amsterdam

Brexit it having a huge impact on everyday life for the majority of people.