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‘D’H has announced that Covid doesn’t exist.

423 replies

OutOfLine · 27/03/2021 11:05

Name changed for this.

One year since lockdown 1 began and DH has announced that Covid does not exist.

The illness is ‘no different to flu’, he is not having the vaccine because ‘he doesn’t need to’ and if he falls ill with any symptoms listed as Covid he will not be taking a test and will phone in sick with backache or some such nonsense.

AIBU to think WTF?
Apparently he has thought this all along and decided to let us know as he is sick of ‘having his freedom taken away from him’.

What started as a chat about weekly testing ended up with this.

I don’t know what to do with this information. All year (pre. weekly testing /vaccine rollout) he’s just gone along with it all.

So, along with AIBU to think he has lost his mind, WWYD or say in this situation?

OP posts:
ddl1 · 27/03/2021 16:30

"I’m starting to think he’s actually an idiot.
(He is highly qualified academically)"

He's not Piers Corbyn., is he?!

FlyingBurrito · 27/03/2021 16:40

@Zig27

He is entitled to have his own view. Why are you trying to control his mind?
For me it wouldn't be about having a different opinion it would be that the opinion is so stupid I'd lose respect for the person

I don't think anyone is saying he can't have an opinion but all opinions aren't of equal validity imo

Zig27 · 27/03/2021 16:57

@FlyingBurrito The OP should just tell him not to put her and the family's risk at health. He might not want to wear a mask in a shop but he should to protect his family.

PuzzledObserver · 27/03/2021 17:02

Or the vaxxed could die from a cytokine storm due to ADE

Given how many people have now been vaccinated, if this were going to happen we would be seeing it by now.

Nanny0gg · 27/03/2021 17:05

@WilsonMilson

I’d say he’s entitled to his own opinion. I think he’s wrong to say there is no virus, but if that’s what he thinks, then there’s probably no arguing with him. Just let him be.
Flat earthers have their own opinion too. I don't think they're entitled to believe and spread nonsense
YukoandHiro · 27/03/2021 17:08

Do you have children? If so, insist he trebles the payout on his life insurance (which will treble the monthly premium) or gets the vaccine when offered. Bet he'll get it. Then his own (idiotic) views are less problematic on a practical level.
What you do about being married to someone with such anti-scientific views is your decision. I couldn't live with it - esp as it might be the thin end of the wedge

Nanny0gg · 27/03/2021 17:11

@KFB1978

Good for him. Whether he's right or not. He has is own opinion and choice and you lot are bloody scary. As said he's probably far better educated than most of you on this thread. I love the fact you dismiss any view other than expressed by the mainstream media even though they are proven liars. It's his choice leave him alone. Just cos you want some holiday that you won't be allowed to go on anyway.
OFGS

Do you not think there's a tiny chance that some of us have looked at the science from scientists rather than just read the Daily Mail?

Rubyupbeat · 27/03/2021 17:14

Hmmm...Tell that to my friend who just came off a ventilator 2 weeks ago, after 3 months and now not able to walk or eat.
Another friend whose husband and mother died from it.
Or even me and my husband who were so ill with it at the beginning of the year and still suffering long covid symptoms.
I've had my 1st jab, 2 months ago and no symptoms.

KFB1978 · 27/03/2021 17:15

Do you honestly believe that if the "virus" was half as dangerous as it meant to be that we 1) would be arguing about it 2) would have to have the death stats/NHS problems be inflated and 3) would have comments like these on a main stream news article?

Nanny0gg · 27/03/2021 17:17

@WithTeaTree

The vaccine is definitely designed to make everyone sterile. That’s why they started with the most fertile group in society, the over 80s.
Grin Grin
everybodysang · 27/03/2021 17:21

God they ALWAYS show up, don't they? Someone sounded the bot klaxon.

iklboo · 27/03/2021 17:22

KFB1978 - Asda has a sale on of tin foil. If you hurry you might get some before it's sold out.

Giantrooster · 27/03/2021 17:25

Well op, if it's the needles scaring him off the vaccine, I might have the cure.

Tell him that as he won't get the vaccine, you would like him to strengthen his immune system (because you love him and want to keep him blah blah blah) and you have read acupuncture is the best way forward, then show him one of those photos where the patient looks like a porcupine, that should fix it Wink.

Original poster
OutOfLine · 27/03/2021 17:28

@everybodysang

God they ALWAYS show up, don't they? Someone sounded the bot klaxon.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
OP posts:
tormentil · 27/03/2021 17:30

[quote bearandowl]Don't be so hasty in dismissing your husband's views. There are highly qualified doctors with views similar to your husband's. Most surprising perhaps is Dr Geert Vanden Bossche a very eminent vaccine specialist who has called for all covid vaccination to stop. He says the vaccine teaches the virus how to mutate and to become stronger and more deadly. dryburgh.com/geert-vanden-bossche-open-letter-to-who-halt-all-covid-19-mass-vaccination/[/quote]
I'm glad that someone has mentioned this.

Original poster
OutOfLine · 27/03/2021 17:31

Zig27
He is entitled to have his own view. Why are you trying to control his mind?

Haha!! You could say he’s trying to control MY mind!
He was very ‘persuasive’ (SHOUTY) last night....

OP posts:
Tootsee · 27/03/2021 17:35

@OutOfLine

God I’m so sorry Tootsee. This whole situation has been horrific for so many people. It’s interesting to read what your DD has to say about her colleagues at the hospital she works at and I’m so sorry for your loss.
*@OutOfLine* My daughter is a theatre nurse in the Main NHS hospital in our area. During first Lockdown most routine surgery was cancelled and extra areas were set up in their department to deal with the expected influx of critically ill patients, which theatre staff were going to help with. Because of hardly any surgery, the Surgical Wards were pretty empty. Patients were also punted out of the hospital to Care/Nursing homes and Community Hospitals from the Medical Wards, to leave room for all the Covid patients. Then....it didn’t really happen in our area. It has actually been worse during second Lockdown, but still not completely overwhelming!

It really upsets me when people (like your ‘d’h) say Covid isn’t real. It is, and the 126k deaths is only the tip of the iceberg. I’m pretty sure that an even greater number have or will die, not from Covid, but (like my dh) because of Covid!

RootyT00t · 27/03/2021 17:41

Tootsie I missed what happened but I'm sorry for your loss.

Tootsee · 27/03/2021 17:41

@Zig27

He is entitled to have his own view. Why are you trying to control his mind?
Agreed, he is entitled to have his own view. He just isn’t entitled to abide by it, when that could put other people at risk!
expectopelargonium · 27/03/2021 17:52

He might be entitled to his view, but to be honest, it's better to stay quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove any doubt.

StanfordPines · 27/03/2021 18:06

As is often said, the thing about science is it’s true whether you believe it or not.

PenfoldPenny · 27/03/2021 18:15

"he is sick of ‘having his freedom taken away from him’ "

Yes because obviously those of us who do think Covid is a thing and are doing our best to not pass it on/stick to the rules etc - we are totally tickety boo not bored at all.

Im so bored of seeing covid deniers saying they dont like having their freedom taken away - as if somehow those of us willing to try and make this mess a shorter experience are somehow having a marvellous time and happy about it all.

Ive not left this town in a year.
Ive been nowhere that my feet cannot take me - in a year (no car)
Ive seen almost no one in a year. (family arent local, not many local friends)
Bored bored bored
But........... Im convinced hiding out for now is the best option overall.

He needs a serious reality check.

Zig27 · 27/03/2021 18:48

@OutOfLine

Zig27 He is entitled to have his own view. Why are you trying to control his mind?

Haha!! You could say he’s trying to control MY mind!
He was very ‘persuasive’ (SHOUTY) last night....

That doesn't sound good, he is getting angry to express his views and trying to get you change yours. Probably best to avoid talking about covid with him.
TillyTopper · 27/03/2021 18:59

Personally I'd just nod and carry on. If you make a thing of it he'll dig his heels in and not have the vaccine (as he's have to back down)., if you just carry on he'll probably just have it when the letter/text comes.

MonaCorona · 27/03/2021 18:59

The thing is, OP, your husband is clearly taking an extreme position, and he's ended up representing a dickish position (namely that Covid doesn't exist). He'll probably find it difficult to row back from that one.

However, it should rightly be debated as to whether lockdown and the laws restricting our freedom are the right response to Covid. You can 100% accept that Covid exists, but you can still say that there are some people for whom the potential side-effects of a largely untested vaccine are less risky than the potential side-effects of catching Covid.

You can be 100% opposed to having quite basic freedom restricted in an attempt to control a virus which a) won't affect the majority of people very badly; and b) is a virus and will do what it does, largely regardless of what we do.

These things don't make you a Covid denier or an anti-vaxx loon.

However, if you're confronted with someone who refuses to countenance anything other than slavish acceptance of the Covid rules and new laws enforcing them, then you could well end up saying something dickish.

OP, can you accept that huge numbers of people disagree with the rules, for very good reasons, and are also not going to have this particular vaccine (not all vaccines) because they have weighed it up and have found it wanting in their particular case?